Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted February 8 Posted February 8 👏 The war on the American people takes a new turn, not only higher taxes, less choices, slower growth, increased costs and bureaucratic hassles, but also our best and brightests will be discouraged from working on a better future.  Yet MAGA cheers  https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/02/08/nih-cuts-billions-dollars-biomedical-funding-effective-immediately/  The Trump administration on Friday night moved to cut billions of dollars in biomedical research funding, alarming academic leaders who said it would imperil their universities and medical centers and drawing swift rebukes from Democrats who predicted dire consequences for scientific research. The move, announced by the National Institutes of Health, drastically cuts the NIH’s funding for “indirect” costs related to research. These are the administrative requirements, facilities and other operations that many scientists say are essential but some Republicans have argued are superfluous. “The United States should have the best medical research in the world,” the NIH said in its announcement. “It is accordingly vital to ensure that as many funds as possible go towards direct scientific research costs rather than administrative overhead.” 1
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T master Posted February 8 Posted February 8 25 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: 👏 The war on the American people takes a new turn, not only higher taxes, less choices, slower growth, increased costs and bureaucratic hassles, but also our best and brightests will be discouraged from working on a better future.  Yet MAGA cheers  https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/02/08/nih-cuts-billions-dollars-biomedical-funding-effective-immediately/  The Trump administration on Friday night moved to cut billions of dollars in biomedical research funding, alarming academic leaders who said it would imperil their universities and medical centers and drawing swift rebukes from Democrats who predicted dire consequences for scientific research. The move, announced by the National Institutes of Health, drastically cuts the NIH’s funding for “indirect” costs related to research. These are the administrative requirements, facilities and other operations that many scientists say are essential but some Republicans have argued are superfluous. “The United States should have the best medical research in the world,” the NIH said in its announcement. “It is accordingly vital to ensure that as many funds as possible go towards direct scientific research costs rather than administrative overhead.”   Just watch the first 3 minutes of this could this possibly be why ? I watched the entire thing years ago when my brother died from a Gio, if you know anything about cancer glioblastoma in todays medical community is a death sentence ! Doctors just do protocol and don't go out side of the lines in fear of getting sued .  I know you won't take the time to watch the entire documentary because you will find that it doesn't fit the narrative you are trying to push but this Doctor did everything by the book was & has saved many lives only for the US gov't to at every turn sue him and then finally put him in prison then steel his patents on the cure he had found, then when let out of prison his practice was under the watchful eye of the US gov't in a trail state .  I believe there is a cure or multiple cures for this dreaded disease but if it was cured for a minute just think of how much money would be lost ! Medical colleges, equipment, insurances, hospitals, research grants for trials, and so on and so on .  So before you go spewing your BS you should do a tad of research but we all know that your first and for most agenda is to make the orange man look as bad as you can instead of looking at something objectively and afterward give a responsible/common sense type of response .  But don't worry we all understand where you always come from so then there's that ... 1
Steve O Posted February 8 Posted February 8 18 minutes ago, T master said:   Just watch the first 3 minutes of this could this possibly be why ? I watched the entire thing years ago when my brother died from a Gio, if you know anything about cancer glioblastoma in todays medical community is a death sentence ! Doctors just do protocol and don't go out side of the lines in fear of getting sued I know you won't take the time to watch the entire documentary because you will find that it doesn't fit the narrative you are trying to push but this Doctor did everything by the book was & has saved many lives only for the US gov't to at every turn sue him and then finally put him in prison then steel his patents on the cure he had found, then when let out of prison his practice was under the watchful eye of the US gov't in a trail state .  I believe there is a cure or multiple cures for this dreaded disease but if it was cured for a minute just think of how much money would be lost ! Medical colleges, equipment, insurances, hospitals, research grants for trials, and so on and so on .  So before you go spewing your BS you should do a tad of research but we all know that your first and for most agenda is to make the orange man look as bad as you can instead of looking at something objectively and afterward give a responsible/common sense type of response .  But don't worry we all understand where you always come from so then there's that ... First 3 minutes are eye opening. As you say, way too much money in treating cancer for a cure to be mainstream. So effing annoying. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 8 Posted February 8 22 minutes ago, T master said:   Just watch the first 3 minutes of this could this possibly be why ? I watched the entire thing years ago when my brother died from a Gio, if you know anything about cancer glioblastoma in todays medical community is a death sentence ! Doctors just do protocol and don't go out side of the lines in fear of getting sued .  I know you won't take the time to watch the entire documentary because you will find that it doesn't fit the narrative you are trying to push but this Doctor did everything by the book was & has saved many lives only for the US gov't to at every turn sue him and then finally put him in prison then steel his patents on the cure he had found, then when let out of prison his practice was under the watchful eye of the US gov't in a trail state .  I believe there is a cure or multiple cures for this dreaded disease but if it was cured for a minute just think of how much money would be lost ! Medical colleges, equipment, insurances, hospitals, research grants for trials, and so on and so on .  So before you go spewing your BS you should do a tad of research but we all know that your first and for most agenda is to make the orange man look as bad as you can instead of looking at something objectively and afterward give a responsible/common sense type of response .  But don't worry we all understand where you always come from so then there's that ... I understand the desperation for a cure.  it leads to magical thinking.  I'll watch the 1st 3 minutes if you read this:  Although Burzynski and his associates claim success in the use of antineoplaston combinations for the treatment of various diseases, and some of the clinic's patients say they have been helped,[33] there is no clinical evidence of the efficacy of these methods. The consensus among the professional community, as represented by the American Cancer Society[33] and Cancer Research UK[34] is that antineoplaston therapy is unproven, and the overall probability of the treatment turning out to be as claimed is low due to lack of credible mechanisms and the poor state of research after more than 35 years of investigation. Antineoplaston treatments have significant known side effects including severe neurotoxicity. Hypernatremia is also a significant risk given the high levels of sodium in antineoplaston infusions.[29][35][32] Independent scientists have been unable to reproduce the positive results reported in Burzynski's studies: NCI observed that researchers other than Burzynski and his associates have not been successful in duplicating his results,[29] and Cancer Research UK states that "available scientific evidence does not support claims that antineoplaston therapy is effective in treating or preventing cancer."[34] There is no convincing evidence from randomized controlled trials in the scientific literature that antineoplastons are useful treatments of cancer, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved these products for the treatment of any disease.[36] The American Cancer Society has stated since 1983 that there is no evidence that antineoplastons have any beneficial effects on cancer and recommended that people not buy these products since there could be serious health consequences.[33][37] A 2004 medical review described antineoplaston treatment as a "disproven therapy".[12] In 1998, three oncologists were enlisted by the weekly Washington newsletter The Cancer Letter to conduct independent reviews of Burzynski's clinical trial research on antineoplastons. They concluded that the studies were poorly designed, not interpretable, and "so flawed that it cannot be determined whether it really works". One of them characterized the research as "scientific nonsense".[38] In addition to questioning Burzynski's research methods, the oncologists found significant and possibly life-threatening toxicity in some patients treated with antineoplastons.[39]  There is no conspiracy within the medical community to suppress treatments for largely incurable diseases.
dgrochester55 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 OP needs to get a life. His party lost and it is time to move on.
T master Posted February 8 Posted February 8 20 minutes ago, Steve O said: First 3 minutes are eye opening. As you say, way too much money in treating cancer for a cure to be mainstream. So effing annoying.  If you have the time it's a great watch ! It will tell anyone that thinks our gov't is all about "We the People" when it comes to the divisions like the FDA and others put in place to help us, it will show you just what a farce they really are and the lengths they will go to to keep the money rolling in ... 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 8 Posted February 8 11 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: OP needs to get a life. His party lost and it is time to move on. yes, because magas rarely criticized our party when you lost. Â Y'all loved Obama's 2 terms.
dgrochester55 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: yes, because magas rarely criticized our party when you lost.  Y'all loved Obama's 2 terms. Get bent you commie quack.  You aren't worth the time and effort to me anymore. Go back to sniffing nitrous oxide and trying to find a third world country that will still let you practice. Edited February 8 by dgrochester55 2
Steve O Posted February 8 Posted February 8 40 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: There is no conspiracy within the medical community to suppress treatments for largely incurable diseases. Do you seriously believe this? 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 8 Posted February 8 15 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: Get bent you commie quack.  You aren't worth the time and effort to me anymore. Go back to sniffing nitrous oxide and trying to find a third world country that will still let you practice. Then don't spend time responding.  once again, you are incorrect on everything written.
dgrochester55 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Then don't spend time responding.  once again, you are incorrect on everything written. I posted, you responded. Get it straight. If you are too senile to remember the order of posting after ten minutes, then maybe you aren't mentally fit to be here. You are nothing more than a bitter, ignorant old man and if you think that I am wrong on everything, this means that I am on the right track.  People should strive to think opposite of you. You are a sad and bitter person and should be pitied. Edited February 8 by dgrochester55 1
T master Posted February 8 Posted February 8 24 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I understand the desperation for a cure.  it leads to magical thinking.  I'll watch the 1st 3 minutes if you read this:  Although Burzynski and his associates claim success in the use of antineoplaston combinations for the treatment of various diseases, and some of the clinic's patients say they have been helped,[33] there is no clinical evidence of the efficacy of these methods. The consensus among the professional community, as represented by the American Cancer Society[33] and Cancer Research UK[34] is that antineoplaston therapy is unproven, and the overall probability of the treatment turning out to be as claimed is low due to lack of credible mechanisms and the poor state of research after more than 35 years of investigation. Antineoplaston treatments have significant known side effects including severe neurotoxicity. Hypernatremia is also a significant risk given the high levels of sodium in antineoplaston infusions.[29][35][32] Independent scientists have been unable to reproduce the positive results reported in Burzynski's studies: NCI observed that researchers other than Burzynski and his associates have not been successful in duplicating his results,[29] and Cancer Research UK states that "available scientific evidence does not support claims that antineoplaston therapy is effective in treating or preventing cancer."[34] There is no convincing evidence from randomized controlled trials in the scientific literature that antineoplastons are useful treatments of cancer, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved these products for the treatment of any disease.[36] The American Cancer Society has stated since 1983 that there is no evidence that antineoplastons have any beneficial effects on cancer and recommended that people not buy these products since there could be serious health consequences.[33][37] A 2004 medical review described antineoplaston treatment as a "disproven therapy".[12] In 1998, three oncologists were enlisted by the weekly Washington newsletter The Cancer Letter to conduct independent reviews of Burzynski's clinical trial research on antineoplastons. They concluded that the studies were poorly designed, not interpretable, and "so flawed that it cannot be determined whether it really works". One of them characterized the research as "scientific nonsense".[38] In addition to questioning Burzynski's research methods, the oncologists found significant and possibly life-threatening toxicity in some patients treated with antineoplastons.[39]  There is no conspiracy within the medical community to suppress treatments for largely incurable diseases.  Well i believe that you are getting your information from the medical community which during the pandemic IMPO found out that they were mostly FOS ! That being said seeing the history of 1 our gov't & 2 the medical community i have more than a large lack of trust in both but then again that might just be me .  The AMA was founded back in the day and driven by the fact that they couldn't make money off of all natural herbs and such because being natural they couldn't be patented - introduce big pharma ! Then if you add into the equation the amount of money that the American Cancer society, & Cancer research in general stand to lose if there were a cure found is enough of a motive to keep it under raps .  If you don't believe me look at the government's stand on Cannabis, they demonized it for years only to take out a patent on it while watching doctors do research in countries like Israel do research and find that is wasn't the demon that the US gov't made it out to be and i can personally tell you that isn't nearly as bad as alcohol but seeing as they now know how much money in taxes can be made from it both medically & recreationally they are starting to eat some crow about their supposed information from those like the FDA from years ago.  Then in recent times i can remember when i was a kid there was argument about taking red dye #3 off the market because of the proof of it causing certain disease such as cancer but the gov't agency put in place to protect us from such things the FDA allowed it to stay in use and only now because of the possible appointment of RFK have they changed course on it but will allow it to stay in use for another 2 years when they have alternatives to it but that might piss off all those still pushing back door money into those in or related to the US gov't that have investments in those corporations .  Then Round up a known beyond a shadow of a doubt to cause cancer and has killed some that have used it is still on the market because Monsatan is making billions on it plus it helps cancer be spread and it is BANNED in foreign countries but hey the EPA another agency paid to "Protect" the American people from such things still allow it to be manufactured and sold . WHY because the huge amounts of money that is being put to who knows who that might be invested and have been ever since vietnam which basically round up is only slightly different from agent orange if you would like to look at another great documentary that will give you some more insight on how these big businesses work watch "The people vs Agent Orange" and get back to me .  I'm sure you have a lot more knowledge than i do on these things and by your response believe a lot of what has been put to you in those medical journals and such but the 1 thing that (If you would watch that entire documentary on Burzinski) is he didn't pay those folks that went in front of those gov't comities and testified about the loved ones that were spared by what he did for them when they were trying to put him out of business . And there were more than just a few of those folks just go listen to their testimony at those gov't hearings .  I guess what i am trying to say is and what i was taught is don't believe everything you read or here especially when there is Billions of dollars involved, Hell Rumsfeld hired additional scientists in a gov't study about aspartame just so they would have the vote go in favor of the info that those that were gong to be making the money off of it wanted so it could pass for human consumption although it caused cancer in lab animals .  Well i could go on & on but have rambled long enough i guess we will just have to agree to disagree because i know for a fact of medications that my family members have taken and are now passed that were suppose to be safe for humans that caused in some ways much more harm than good, and if you think the medical community including big pharma, American Cancer Society, American Medical Assoc., FDA, EPA has been & is on the up and up since their inception man i'm sorry ...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 8 Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: I posted, you responded. Get it straight. If you are too senile to remember the order of posting after ten minutes, then maybe you aren't mentally fit to be here. You are nothing more than a bitter, ignorant old man and if you think that I am wrong on everything, this means that I am on the right track.  People should strive to think opposite of you. You are a sad and bitter person and should be pitied. there you go again.  for not being worth the time, you're spending a bit insulting me.  ad hominem is one of the easiest fallacies to rebut.  but debate isn't your thing.  You seem joyful to me.  whatever you're doing, keep it up.  Happiness is winning!
T master Posted February 8 Posted February 8 33 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Â Y'all loved Obama's 2 terms. Not so much .
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 8 Posted February 8 1 minute ago, T master said: Â Well i believe that you are getting your information from the medical community which during the pandemic IMPO found out that they were mostly FOS ! That being said seeing the history of 1 our gov't & 2 the medical community i have more than a large lack of trust in both but then again that might just be me . Â The AMA was founded back in the day and driven by the fact that they couldn't make money off of all natural herbs and such because being natural they couldn't be patented - introduce big pharma ! Then if you add into the equation the amount of money that the American Cancer society, & Cancer research in general stand to lose if there were a cure found is enough of a motive to keep it under raps . Â If you don't believe me look at the government's stand on Cannabis, they demonized it for years only to take out a patent on it while watching doctors do research in countries like Israel do research and find that is wasn't the demon that the US gov't made it out to be and i can personally tell you that isn't nearly as bad as alcohol but seeing as they now know how much money in taxes can be made from it both medically & recreationally they are starting to eat some crow about their supposed information from those like the FDA from years ago. Â Then in recent times i can remember when i was a kid there was argument about taking red dye #3 off the market because of the proof of it causing certain disease such as cancer but the gov't agency put in place to protect us from such things the FDA allowed it to stay in use and only now because of the possible appointment of RFK have they changed course on it but will allow it to stay in use for another 2 years when they have alternatives to it but that might piss off all those still pushing back door money into those in or related to the US gov't that have investments in those corporations . Â Then Round up a known beyond a shadow of a doubt to cause cancer and has killed some that have used it is still on the market because Monsatan is making billions on it plus it helps cancer be spread and it is BANNED in foreign countries but hey the EPA another agency paid to "Protect" the American people from such things still allow it to be manufactured and sold . WHY because the huge amounts of money that is being put to who knows who that might be invested and have been ever since vietnam which basically round up is only slightly different from agent orange if you would like to look at another great documentary that will give you some more insight on how these big businesses work watch "The people vs Agent Orange" and get back to me . Â I'm sure you have a lot more knowledge than i do on these things and by your response believe a lot of what has been put to you in those medical journals and such but the 1 thing that (If you would watch that entire documentary on Burzinski) is he didn't pay those folks that went in front of those gov't comities and testified about the loved ones that were spared by what he did for them when they were trying to put him out of business . And there were more than just a few of those folks just go listen to their testimony at those gov't hearings . Â I guess what i am trying to say is and what i was taught is don't believe everything you read or here especially when there is Billions of dollars involved, Hell Rumsfeld hired additional scientists in a gov't study about aspartame just so they would have the vote go in favor of the info that those that were gong to be making the money off of it wanted so it could pass for human consumption although it caused cancer in lab animals . Â Well i could go on & on but have rambled long enough i guess we will just have to agree to disagree because i know for a fact of medications that my family members have taken and are now passed that were suppose to be safe for humans that caused in some ways much more harm than good, and if you think the medical community including big pharma, American Cancer Society, American Medical Assoc., FDA, EPA has been & is on the up and up since their inception man i'm sorry ... No, the vast majority of medical researchers and clinicians go into the field because they want fulfillment. Â there are much easier ways to make money. Â Academics are comparatively poorly paid and anonymous outside academia. Â What you're proposing is a massive conspiracy involving millions of scientists on a global level. Â It's ridiculous. Â Now go look up the income of Dr Miracle that you referenced. Â I'm sure he and his family are doing much better than average. Â btw, the AMA is not powerful anymore. Â I believe less than /3 of docs are members. Â I'm not and haven't been since I was given a free membership in med school.
dgrochester55 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: there you go again. Â for not being worth the time, you're spending a bit insulting me. Â ad hominem is one of the easiest fallacies to rebut. Â but debate isn't your thing. Â You seem joyful to me. Â whatever you're doing, keep it up. Â Happiness is winning! Â Ladies and gentleman, another unsolicited Ted Talk from Dr. Dunning-Kruger.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: Â Ladies and gentleman, another unsolicited Ted Talk from Dr. Dunning-Kruger. so I'm imagining that you're reading and answering my posts? Â We must be in parallel realities. Â Yeah, that's it. Â It's alternate truth.
dgrochester55 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: so I'm imagining that you're reading and answering my posts?  We must be in parallel realities.  Yeah, that's it.  It's alternate truth.  Unfortunately, there is no block button and you initiated the first response to me today. If you do not like me or my opinions, stay the hell away from my posts, and this include your childish laughter emoji's. Edited February 8 by dgrochester55 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 8 Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:  Unfortunately, there is no block button and you initiated the first response to me today. If you do not like me or my opinions, stay the hell away from my posts, and this include your childish laughter emoji's. laughter is good for the soul.  but this is getting boring.
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