SoMAn Posted Saturday at 08:20 PM Posted Saturday at 08:20 PM I wouldn’t be the least bit disappointed if they could trade both 2’s and the 1 to be able to grab an impact player in the top 12. Seems they’re always missing the blue chip players and reaching with their late round picks, usually ending up with someone never a threat to make any pro bowls. If they could somehow get a top tier edge, CB, or WR, it would be well worth swapping 1’s and missing round 2. With the amount of draft capital projected, it’s not hard to imaging they could trade back into the second round. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Saturday at 08:36 PM Posted Saturday at 08:36 PM 14 minutes ago, SoMAn said: I wouldn’t be the least bit disappointed if they could trade both 2’s and the 1 to be able to grab an impact player in the top 12. Seems they’re always missing the blue chip players and reaching with their late round picks, usually ending up with someone never a threat to make any pro bowls. If they could somehow get a top tier edge, CB, or WR, it would be well worth swapping 1’s and missing round 2. With the amount of draft capital projected, it’s not hard to imaging they could trade back into the second round. Who is the player? It had better be a guy who plays day 1 and makes enough impact that coordinators have to account for them. Quote
SoMAn Posted Saturday at 08:46 PM Posted Saturday at 08:46 PM (edited) 10 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Who is the player? It had better be a guy who plays day 1 and makes enough impact that coordinators have to account for them. Of course. Would be nice to have (for example) a Justin Jefferson level player. Edited Saturday at 08:47 PM by SoMAn 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Saturday at 09:26 PM Posted Saturday at 09:26 PM 39 minutes ago, SoMAn said: Of course. Would be nice to have (for example) a Justin Jefferson level player. I'm not thrilled with this draft class to be honest. 1 Quote
wppete Posted Saturday at 11:53 PM Author Posted Saturday at 11:53 PM 5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Round 1. (Trade for Vetran) Round 2 ((trade for veteran) Round 2: from Houston Round 4 (Trade for Veteran) Round 4: from Chicago Round 6 Round 6: from Cleveland in Amari Cooper trade Round 6: from New York Giants Our 1st, 2nd and 4th round picks (and a future 1st if need be) should be used to trade for Vet players who can help now. We still have a 2nd, 4th, all 3 6ths and comp picks I like the idea but rookies are cheap compared to proved veterans. We have very little money to play with. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Sunday at 12:01 AM Posted Sunday at 12:01 AM 7 minutes ago, wppete said: I like the idea but rookies are cheap compared to proved veterans. We have very little money to play with. We are going to be cleaning cap space. It's time for a new contract for Josh 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted Sunday at 05:15 AM Posted Sunday at 05:15 AM (edited) https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=buf Here is a handy chart that shows every team’s picks. Edited Sunday at 05:16 AM by BarleyNY 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted Sunday at 09:17 AM Posted Sunday at 09:17 AM 3 hours ago, BarleyNY said: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=buf Here is a handy chart that shows every team’s picks. The Rich Hill model is more accurate. It's kind of odd to me that they haven't switched to that as their main one when they themselves even say that it's more in line with recent trades than the old Jimmy Johnson one. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart-Rich-Hill.asp 12 hours ago, SoMAn said: I wouldn’t be the least bit disappointed if they could trade both 2’s and the 1 to be able to grab an impact player in the top 12. Seems they’re always missing the blue chip players and reaching with their late round picks, usually ending up with someone never a threat to make any pro bowls. If they could somehow get a top tier edge, CB, or WR, it would be well worth swapping 1’s and missing round 2. With the amount of draft capital projected, it’s not hard to imaging they could trade back into the second round. The highest the Trade Chart would get us is around 10. But that's just the Trade Chart. It's not very often you're going to get someone to move down 20 Picks. This is considered a pretty weak class. I don't know that there's really anyone worth giving up 3 players where we'll be picking for 1 at the 10 spot. If we could get Travis Hunter, sure. But he'll be gone in the first 2 or 3 picks. 1 Quote
<bills4life> Posted Sunday at 12:44 PM Posted Sunday at 12:44 PM This is the year to do what the rams did a few years ago and trade the draft picks for bonafide players that will help. If you want to beats the chiefs, waiting for rookies to develop is not going to get it done. 1 Quote
ROCBillsBeliever Posted Sunday at 02:21 PM Posted Sunday at 02:21 PM On 2/7/2025 at 5:06 PM, BillsFanForever19 said: Round 6 (from NYG for Boogie Basham) The fact that we're still getting paid for Boogie Basham is pretty impressive. Quote
BarleyNY Posted Sunday at 02:54 PM Posted Sunday at 02:54 PM 5 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: The Rich Hill model is more accurate. It's kind of odd to me that they haven't switched to that as their main one when they themselves even say that it's more in line with recent trades than the old Jimmy Johnson one. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart-Rich-Hill.asp The highest the Trade Chart would get us is around 10. But that's just the Trade Chart. It's not very often you're going to get someone to move down 20 Picks. This is considered a pretty weak class. I don't know that there's really anyone worth giving up 3 players where we'll be picking for 1 at the 10 spot. If we could get Travis Hunter, sure. But he'll be gone in the first 2 or 3 picks. yeah. nice they have the differently modeled trade charts. Quote
SoMAn Posted Monday at 02:12 PM Posted Monday at 02:12 PM On 2/9/2025 at 4:17 AM, BillsFanForever19 said: The Rich Hill model is more accurate. It's kind of odd to me that they haven't switched to that as their main one when they themselves even say that it's more in line with recent trades than the old Jimmy Johnson one. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart-Rich-Hill.asp The highest the Trade Chart would get us is around 10. But that's just the Trade Chart. It's not very often you're going to get someone to move down 20 Picks. This is considered a pretty weak class. I don't know that there's really anyone worth giving up 3 players where we'll be picking for 1 at the 10 spot. If we could get Travis Hunter, sure. But he'll be gone in the first 2 or 3 picks. They wouldn't be giving up 3 players. The 1's would be swapped. Yes, they'd give up two 2's. Though they've grabbed a few good 2's in recent years, there've been a fair share of players that never amounted to much like Boogie Basham, Cody Ford, Zay Jones, Reggie Ragland. My point is that too often they end up with late first round picks like Colemans, Elams, Kincaid, Rousseau, Lawson, etc. Some are decent contributors, but hardly star players. Several are below average for the draft position. At this point, I'd be happy to trade the inconsistent Ed Oliver and the round 1 pick to get in the top third of the draft with the hope of getting that every down DT who can disrupt the middle of the line and stuff the run. If there was a player tagged as a blue chip prospect that could be had by trading those picks, I'd be good with it. Quote
tigerthelion Posted Monday at 02:57 PM Posted Monday at 02:57 PM On 2/8/2025 at 7:53 PM, wppete said: I like the idea but rookies are cheap compared to proved veterans. We have very little money to play with. Beane should find a way to make the money work with what he has to play with and get proven difference makers into Buffalo. You can't just hope the Colemans and Bishops work out. Every year should be win now mode for the next five years at least. Obviously , you can't just sign every top free agent and you have to hit on some draft picks, but you can't keep striking out in the first three rounds of the draft. Let your own guys go if they area asking too much. Stop paying the kind of money they have paid to guys like Epenesa and Knox and Oliver. Let those guys walk if they are not going to make plays when it matters. Oliver played pretty well this year in the playoffs, but I think you could have let him go, replaced him cheaper , and not noticed much of a difference on defense at all. 1 Quote
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