Logic Posted February 7 Posted February 7 I know we currently don't have a 3rd round pick due to the Cooper trade, but I was under the impression that if we let Cooper walk that, depending on other factors, it could result in us recouping a 3rd round compensatory pick. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 7 Posted February 7 48 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Yeah they’re not very valuable in terms of trade capital. I think if you packaged them together, you might be able to get up into the back end of the 4th if you threw in one of the 6ths. Depending on how the board shakes out and what they do in free agency, you may want the volume of selections vs. putting three resources into a single selection. Hard to know. I think the more likely use for these (aside from picking a player) if you package them to move up earlier in other rounds. For example you might package #56 with one of the 5ths to get up to the 53rd pick. Beane has been know to target “his guys” and make the move to go get them if there are other teams to play ball. We currently have 10 picks. There is just no way they make all 10 of those. There isn’t that many roster spaces to be filled. This is why I think you’ll see them identify who they want early on, and use those later round assets to try and move up to be sure to land them. The other thing they might do is trade one for an up next year. One of those 4ths was from trading away a 5th last draft day to the Bears. 1 minute ago, Logic said: I know we currently don't have a 3rd round pick due to the Cooper trade, but I was under the impression that if we let Cooper walk that, depending on other factors, it could result in us recouping a 3rd round compensatory pick. That would be next year and I doubt he nets a 3rd. 4th maybe. 2 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, wppete said: What do you think we will get? 2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: As others have suggested, Over the Cap currently has us projected to receive two additional 5th round picks (Leonard Floyd, Gabe Davis) https://overthecap.com/compensatory-picks Yes, it was forecasted to be a 4th for Davis and a 5th for Floyd. Unfortunately, Davis was lost for the year a little past midway through the season - so his compensatory will slide to 5. The picks are: Round 1 - Pick 30 Round 2 - Pick 56 (from HOU/MIN for Diggs & 5th) Round 2 - Pick 62 Round 4 (from CHI for 2024 5th) Round 4 Round 5 (Compensatory for Davis) Round 5 (Compensatory for Floyd) Round 6 Round 6 (from NYG for Boogie Basham) Round 6 (from CLE w/Cooper for 2025 3rd) Edited February 7 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Logic said: I know we currently don't have a 3rd round pick due to the Cooper trade, but I was under the impression that if we let Cooper walk that, depending on other factors, it could result in us recouping a 3rd round compensatory pick. 26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: That would be next year and I doubt he nets a 3rd. 4th maybe. Correct, it wouldn't come until next year. But we won't get a 3rd or a 4th. The 2024 campaign was his 10th accrued season. And once you've had 10 seasons, your comp pick maxes out at a 5th. Edited February 7 by BillsFanForever19 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 7 Posted February 7 15 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: And once you've had 10 seasons, your comp pick maxes out at a 5th. I did not know this! Thanks! 1 Quote
SirAndrew Posted February 7 Posted February 7 I’m sure we’ll give them all up for Myles Garrett, and probably give him the PSL money as well. Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 7 Posted February 7 I wonder if both our 2s and next years 1 can get Garret 1 Quote
DJB Posted February 7 Posted February 7 This was a waste of my time opening this thread. I actually know less about the Bills picks now before I opened the thread. 2 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 28 minutes ago, DJB said: This was a waste of my time opening this thread. I actually know less about the Bills picks now before I opened the thread. I posted a handful of posts above yours, but this is the definitive look at what we'll be rolling with: Round 1 - Pick 30 Round 2 - Pick 56 (from HOU/MIN for Diggs & 5th) Round 2 - Pick 62 Round 4 (from CHI for 2024 5th) Round 4 Round 5 (Compensatory for Davis) Round 5 (Compensatory for Floyd) Round 6 Round 6 (from NYG for Boogie Basham) Round 6 (from CLE w/Cooper for 2025 3rd) 1 Quote
djp14150 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 30 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I posted a handful of posts above yours, but this is the definitive look at what we'll be rolling with: Round 1 - Pick 30 Round 2 - Pick 56 (from HOU/MIN for Diggs & 5th) Round 2 - Pick 62 Round 4 (from CHI for 2024 5th) Round 4 Round 5 (Compensatory for Davis) Round 5 (Compensatory for Floyd) Round 6 Round 6 (from NYG for Boogie Basham) Round 6 (from CLE w/Cooper for 2025 3rd) Will one 5 th be a make up 4th when they should have gotten a 3rd but instead it was a 4th last year 1 Quote
wppete Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, djp14150 said: Will one 5 th be a make up 4th when they should have gotten a 3rd but instead it was a 4th last year Good wuestion. I guess we will know in March. Thats the reason I didn’t include the Comp picks yet. Really hope one of them is a a 4th. Quote
ganesh Posted February 8 Posted February 8 6 hours ago, JP51 said: I think that is exactly what happened... I know we are being mentioned for a 3 or 4 comp pick, but I do not believe we have a 3 this year. We also may get back a 3 or 4 if Cooper signs as a FA somewhere 2 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, djp14150 said: Will one 5 th be a make up 4th when they should have gotten a 3rd but instead it was a 4th last year 1 hour ago, wppete said: Good wuestion. I guess we will know in March. Thats the reason I didn’t include the Comp picks yet. Really hope one of them is a a 4th. That's not how comp picks work. We lost out on a 3rd last year for two reasons. They changed the formula qualifications to include money in deals that they hadn't before. Before that, teams (like us) would carefully construct contracts with void years and incentives that wouldn't effect the cap number and skirt the formula. So when they changed that on a dime, contracts like we did with Floyd were taken into account more than we expected. The other was that Tremaine Edmunds missed time due to injury. Under the new rules, a 4th is what we were owed. It sucks they changed the qualifications, but they did and we got what we should have under them. We were far from the only team that fell victim to the new rules. As for this year, last years qualifications have been accounted for by prognasticators (and i'd doubt they change them again). It was going to be a 4 for Davis, but will fall to a 5 because of him going on IR at about the halfway mark of the year. Floyd is a 5th. It will be 2 5th's. There's no qualification in the formula for calculating an individual players compensatory worth based on fans perceived slights in previous years. 1 hour ago, ganesh said: We also may get back a 3 or 4 if Cooper signs as a FA somewhere Nope. Any FA that signs this offseason won't be compensated until next season. This year is for last year's Free Agent losses of Gabe Davis and Leonard Floyd. And as I said earlier, veterans with 10 or more seasons accrued qualify for a maximum compensation of a 5th Round Pick. This was Amari Cooper's 10th season, so we can't get any more than a 5 next offseason if we lose him this offseason. Edited February 8 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted February 8 Posted February 8 8 hours ago, wppete said: Im not sure but i thought we had 2 3rd round picks somehow. Did we trade one for Amari Cooper??? yes, we traded a 3rd for Amari Quote
The Jokeman Posted February 8 Posted February 8 4 hours ago, Logic said: I know we currently don't have a 3rd round pick due to the Cooper trade, but I was under the impression that if we let Cooper walk that, depending on other factors, it could result in us recouping a 3rd round compensatory pick. Could but that be in 2026 draft not this one. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 13 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Could but that be in 2026 draft not this one. Yes on the 2026 Draft being when we get compensated for Cooper, but no on a 3rd. As i've mentioned a couple times already and is cited here: https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks "Players who have ten or more accrued seasons may only yield a maximum of a 5th round compensatory pick, even if their actual value would otherwise be assigned higher. However, App. V, §4 revealed that this rule does not apply to quarterbacks." Unforunately, Amari Cooper was in his 10th season in the league when we acquired him and (obviously) isn't a QB. So the ceiling on the pick will be a 5th. Edited February 8 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
BILLS 4 EVER Posted February 8 Posted February 8 17 hours ago, Logic said: I know we currently don't have a 3rd round pick due to the Cooper trade, but I was under the impression that if we let Cooper walk that, depending on other factors, it could result in us recouping a 3rd round compensatory pick. in 2026 Quote
WotAGuy Posted February 8 Posted February 8 This thread would be a lot better if we knew what the actual selections will be so we can start beeotching about them. Quote
Shortchaz Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I’ll be shocked if we get two 5’s as compensation. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 On 2/7/2025 at 11:54 AM, wppete said: Beane has some Capital to work with for trade ups or a blockbuster trade for a current player. Either way we should be improved next year if Beane does a good job. Round 1. Round 2 Round 2: from Houston in Stefon Diggs trade Round 4 Round 4: from Chicago Round 6 Round 6: from Cleveland in Amari Cooper trade Round 6: from New York Giants NOT INCLUDING COMP PICKS Round 1. (Trade for Vetran) Round 2 ((trade for veteran) Round 2: from Houston Round 4 (Trade for Veteran) Round 4: from Chicago Round 6 Round 6: from Cleveland in Amari Cooper trade Round 6: from New York Giants Our 1st, 2nd and 4th round picks (and a future 1st if need be) should be used to trade for Vet players who can help now. We still have a 2nd, 4th, all 3 6ths and comp picks 1 1 Quote
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