Four elected to Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2025 under new rules - smallest number since 2005

[corta765]

Torry Holt being left out is insane. The guy was a true baller and was on the NFL all decade team for the 2000s. Unreal that they keep avoiding him

[BearNorth]

Kuechly played 118 games.  For reference Jim Brown played 119 and Dick Butkus played 118.

 

Patrick Willis got in last year - 10 years after he retired.  He and Kuechly have almost identical stats.

[Roundybout]

15 minutes ago, corta765 said:

Torry Holt being left out is insane. The guy was a true baller and was on the NFL all decade team for the 2000s. Unreal that they keep avoiding him

Does anyone know why this is? I remember Terrell Owens was passed over all the time for character issues. Is Holt the same way?

[DrDawkinstein]

I like the smaller class.

 

I'm shocked Vinatieri didnt get in immediately. I can see him, Manning, and Suggs getting in next year.

 

Kuechly is going to be tough. I get that he has all the accolades, but his career feels short and kind of hidden. Tough to make him part of the "NFL Story". He might be one of those guys that becomes legend and finally gets inducted 20 years from now.

 

I was about to rant about some unfairness, but then I saw that Ryan Fitzpatrick only retired as recently as 2022, so he isnt eligible for another couple years. Looking forward to that one

 

 

4 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Does anyone know why this is? I remember Terrell Owens was passed over all the time for character issues. Is Holt the same way?

 

I dont think anyone could give a specific answer for sure, but I'd bet it has to do with the WR position. Not so much character issues, but that there are SO MANY great, big name WRs that come through the game. They could probably do an entirely separate HoF just for WRs.

 

12 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

Kuechly played 118 games.  For reference Jim Brown played 119 and Dick Butkus played 118.

 

Patrick Willis got in last year - 10 years after he retired.  He and Kuechly have almost identical stats.

 

Yeah, I feel like it takes LBs longer to get in. They almost have to show up old and grizzled to get the jacket.

[corta765]

9 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Does anyone know why this is? I remember Terrell Owens was passed over all the time for character issues. Is Holt the same way?

WR's in general have more issues getting in for some reason. I think because there are so many HOF qualified guys it log jams the position something fierce.

 

Unless your a Rice or C Johnson type guy it seems they are struggle. Andre & Tim Brown both took a real long time and they both defined their era when they played.

It is really weird