Allen wins MVP

[tigerthelion]

34 minutes ago, Sweats said:

..............has anyone checked on Nick Wright since the news broke last night?!?

Even Nick Wright is more rational than most of the blowhards on ESPN.  

[zow2]

26 minutes ago, Steptide said:

They must've had some kinda inkling prior to the award show. It's weird that Josh's parents would be there. 

 

The players absolutely know if they are getting an award and that way they can make arrangements for family, etc. to attend.  I don't blame Lamar for not showing up. Almost all the prominent players who went, won something.  Saquon had a recorded speech for OPOY so obviously he knew well in advance.   The moment Josh won, the Bills released a 5-minute video highlighting his work at Children's hospital and mentioning the MVP.  They all knew.

[Jauronimo]

10 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

have to remember ravens fans called threats of violence on the lone voter who denied Lamar a unanimous MVP last season lol

 

They are to be safely ignored

Perhaps not safely, but yes, ignored.

[Golden*Wheels]

Glad he got it. Enjoy it Josh.

[Virgil]

Tom Brady voted for Lamar.   I was honestly surprised by this, because Brady tries to come off as an Allen supporter and friend.  
 

Just in case you needed another reason to have Brady go ***** himself 

[DapperCam]

13 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

They definitely clue the players in. They have had the votes in for weeks. The NFL wants all the winners there. Even if they dont come right out and say it (which they still might) they at least give an indication. I'm sure his agent got a call that was like "Josh should definitely make it to the ceremony, and he should bring anyone who is close to him that he would like to celebrate with, wink-wink, nudge-nudge". And Lamar's agent got a call like "He's welcome to attend, but it's fine if Lamar is hanging out in Florida the night of the ceremony".

I think they straight up tell the players the results. That’s why Allen showed up with an entourage and they sat him right in the center of the front row.
 

You think an NFL player is going to write an acceptance speech if they don’t know for sure they are going to win? Some of these guys can barely write a tweet.

[bigduke6]

feels like a consolation prize at this point.  im happy for Josh,  he deserves it,  had a hell of a season,  of which not much was expected tbh.   dont want to rain on his parade,  or the fans who really care about this.  media just makes this feel like nobody deserves it except SB winners.  how can you be MVP without being offensive player of the year?  or a first team All Pro?  just weird.

[BuffaloBill]

10 hours ago, stevestojan said:

Don’t care if it’s been posted before: 

 

 

If that does not tug at your heart nothing ever will.

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

This is a well deserved award.  Ironically, I thought he should have won last year, as did many others.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, bigduke6 said:

feels like a consolation prize at this point.  im happy for Josh,  he deserves it,  had a hell of a season,  of which not much was expected tbh.   dont want to rain on his parade,  or the fans who really care about this.  media just makes this feel like nobody deserves it except SB winners.  how can you be MVP without being offensive player of the year?  or a first team All Pro?  just weird.

 

I get what you are saying about the consolation prize. It's definitely bitter sweet.

 

For the bold, All-Pro and MVP are very different awards. I think the voters got it perfectly correct this year.

 

Lamar has the better stats this season so he gets All-Pro.

Josh had the better story all around, and meant more to his team since he did not have the same level of supporting cast as Lamar. That makes him the most valuable individual player.

Just now, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

 

 

So she's a TBD member?

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Mina Kimes is no imbecile. She knows her stuff. And she's part of the AP. She just got this one a little wrong.

This certainly sounds like the reaction of a respected AP member.  It is amateurish.

 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

6 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

I think they straight up tell the players the results. That’s why Allen showed up with an entourage and they sat him right in the center of the front row.
 

You think an NFL player is going to write an acceptance speech if they don’t know for sure they are going to win? Some of these guys can barely write a tweet.

 

I kind of wondered the same thing as throughout the night no sightings of Jackson.  To me that was a hint that Allan won the award. 

 

Is there some site that lists the voting results, by person??

[tomur67]

Well earned.  Along with Josh's parents, I had tears of joy streaming down my face as Josh made his acceptance speech.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

I kind of wondered the same thing as throughout the night no sightings of Jackson.  To me that was a hint that Allan won the award. 

 

Is there some site that lists the voting results, by person??

 

https://apnews.com/sports/how-they-voted-josh-allen-wins-ap-nfl-mvp-award-00000194de7cdd80a79dde7c10b10000

[Fleezoid]

10 hours ago, zow2 said:

Rarified air: Josh Allen MVP

 

Good to always be reminded of some of the great QBs to never accomplish this and how special it is.

 

Roger Staubach

Warren Moon

Troy Aikman

Big Ben

Philip Rivers

Drew Brees

Eli Manning

Joe Burrow - still time

 

 

Be careful. You could be subjected to severe punishment for not using the correct terminology when referring to Troy Aikman. His posse may come after you. But I fixed it for you.

 

Roger Staubach

Warren Moon

Hall of Fame Quarterback Troy Aikman

Big Ben

Philip Rivers

Drew Brees

Eli Manning

Joe Burrow - still time

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Fleezoid

[tigerthelion]

12 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

feels like a consolation prize at this point.  im happy for Josh,  he deserves it,  had a hell of a season,  of which not much was expected tbh.   dont want to rain on his parade,  or the fans who really care about this.  media just makes this feel like nobody deserves it except SB winners.  how can you be MVP without being offensive player of the year?  or a first team All Pro?  just weird.

Josh should have been 1st team All Pro.   The consolation prize was handed out to Barkley, if anything. 

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

29 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

feels like a consolation prize at this point.  im happy for Josh,  he deserves it,  had a hell of a season,  of which not much was expected tbh.   dont want to rain on his parade,  or the fans who really care about this.  media just makes this feel like nobody deserves it except SB winners.  how can you be MVP without being offensive player of the year?  or a first team All Pro?  just weird.

I think offensive player of the year and all pro are more stats based than mvp and the voters seemed to echo that.  
 

there has to be some distinction or why have two different awards for all pro and mvp?  They’re both AP awards 

[Shaw66]

25 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

This is a well deserved award.  Ironically, I thought he should have won last year, as did many others.

Well deserved is right. 

 

I don't know who the true MVP was this season. I can make the argument for Lamar, Josh, and Saquon.  I don't know if Josh should have won it last year, but I can certainly make the argument. 

 

What matters over the long run is that the right players get the MVP once or twice or three times.  The Bradys, Mahomes, Allens, Jacksons.  I mean, those guys are super players, exceptional, and they deserve to be recognized.  Allen finally got one, and he deserves one or two more along the way. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

30 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

feels like a consolation prize at this point.  im happy for Josh,  he deserves it,  had a hell of a season,  of which not much was expected tbh.   dont want to rain on his parade,  or the fans who really care about this.  media just makes this feel like nobody deserves it except SB winners.  how can you be MVP without being offensive player of the year?  or a first team All Pro?  just weird.

Because all pro is based on Stats, MVP shouldn't be.  Allen earned it.  This team would be **** if we didn't have him, and how many times this year did he flat out will us to win?  We were not supposed to do any better than 3rd in our own division, but Josh got us there.

1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

Well deserved is right. 

 

I don't know who the true MVP was this season. I can make the argument for Lamar, Josh, and Saquon.  I don't know if Josh should have won it last year, but I can certainly make the argument. 

 

What matters over the long run is that the right players get the MVP once or twice or three times.  The Bradys, Mahomes, Allens, Jacksons.  I mean, those guys are super players, exceptional, and they deserve to be recognized.  Allen finally got one, and he deserves one or two more along the way. 

Excellent post as always sir

[Process]

To be honest I'm not buying the whole "there's a difference between all pro and MVP." History tells us there isn't.

 

Allen should have won both. Voters took the easy way out and were afraid to not give Lamar something. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Process