CincyBillsFan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 4 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: What are these "underlining situations" you speak of? The Ravens were a stacked team with 9 Pro Bowlers and with expectations of making it to the AFC championship game at a minimum. Many considered Baltimore to have the best roster in the NFL. The Bills were a team that was rebuilding having let go of a number of their best players and with only 2 pro bowlers. Expectations for the Bills was generally low with a lot of the national experts predicting they would finish behind both the Dolphins & Jets and not make the playoffs. 1 Quote
MDH Posted February 8 Posted February 8 It’s interesting to me how it’s being phrased as an “upset” when, after week 18 Allen was the favorite for MVP. The “upset” was Allen didn’t get voted All Pro, not that he won MVP. That said I think this played out the way it should have. In a race as close as this split it and let both guys get their accolades. 2 2 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted February 8 Posted February 8 4 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said: It's sounds to me that Bills fans are still complaining as if Josh didn't win. We're all impressed how humble Josh has been and yet nit picking everyone who didn't vote for him. It sounds more like those who voted for Jackson are appalled that many of their peers did not agree with them. Their ensuing histrionics have gotten a response from Bills fans. 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted February 9 Posted February 9 8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Actually, I was eating chips at tailgates and going to 12 games this year. I basically am single handedly paying Allen’s salary! you could have said “I hope you got the Super Bowl you worked so hard for” but saying he deserves it more than fans (or Dawkins or Milano (and all his injuries) or McDermott, etc.) was just a silly comment. But I guess I root for the Bills and not just one player (even if that player is amazing). I didn't say he deserved it more than Dawkins, Milano or McDermott. Weird bit of misdirection there. But I stand by what I said... not your strange altered version of what I said. Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted February 9 Posted February 9 4 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: It sounds more like those who voted for Jackson are appalled that many of their peers did not agree with them. Their ensuing histrionics have gotten a response from Bills fans. This could be true too. It's always good to see the other side Quote
Doc Brown Posted February 9 Posted February 9 13 hours ago, MDH said: It’s interesting to me how it’s being phrased as an “upset” when, after week 18 Allen was the favorite for MVP. The “upset” was Allen didn’t get voted All Pro, not that he won MVP. That said I think this played out the way it should have. In a race as close as this split it and let both guys get their accolades. Yeah. If those all pro votes came out after the MVP award Josh would've went in as the favorite. Maybe they should just wait until after the Honors awards to release their All Pro votes. Add to the suspense a little bit. Quote
GaryPinC Posted February 9 Posted February 9 18 hours ago, MDH said: It’s interesting to me how it’s being phrased as an “upset” when, after week 18 Allen was the favorite for MVP. The “upset” was Allen didn’t get voted All Pro, not that he won MVP. That said I think this played out the way it should have. In a race as close as this split it and let both guys get their accolades. Yep. Lamar had the better individual season while Josh really took the Bills to the next level. The proof is in the playoffs. The voters got it right. 4 1 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Another positive outcome from last nights SB was that given Barkley's good but not great performance Allen's MVP looks even more legit in the hindsight of the playoffs. Quote
DapperCam Posted February 12 Posted February 12 https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dianna-russini-reveals-why-she-voted-against-josh-allen-for-nfl-mvp/ar-AA1yCXrv Dianna Rossini said that the reason she voted for Lamar over Allen, was because the Bills had a better defense. That reasoning makes no sense to me, and their defenses were actually ranked about the same at the end of the season. There are arguments that the Bills actually had a much worse defense (last in the league on 3rd down). 1 1 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted February 12 Posted February 12 21 minutes ago, DapperCam said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dianna-russini-reveals-why-she-voted-against-josh-allen-for-nfl-mvp/ar-AA1yCXrv Dianna Rossini said that the reason she voted for Lamar over Allen, was because the Bills had a better defense. That reasoning makes no sense to me, and their defenses were actually ranked about the same at the end of the season. There are arguments that the Bills actually had a much worse defense (last in the league on 3rd down). But she's ok with all the Ravens ProBowlers and our 1 besides Josh? Ok. And her assessment about the defenses is just wrong. Ok maybe in the end it statistically looked not too far off but by mid season those two defenses were going in different directions. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted February 13 Posted February 13 On 2/8/2025 at 12:36 AM, Big Turk said: Allen also collected a cool $1.5 million dollars for winning MVP as well... Outside of winning the Super Bowl hard to picture a better year he could have had... Gets engaged, sets franchise records and NFL records in numerous categories, wins MVP, banks $1.5 million bonus. And there are posters here who think he might leave Buffalo to play for a Cali team. Buffalo did ALL the right things for this man. Developed one of the rawest QB prospects ever and molded him into an MVP. We are grateful for Josh, but he should be grateful too. It goes both ways. His weapons here aren’t ideal, but he also has an o-line that gave up the least sacks and a very good rushing attack. Look at Burrow and Chase. It takes more than a good passing attack. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted February 13 Posted February 13 2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: And there are posters here who think he might leave Buffalo to play for a Cali team. Buffalo did ALL the right things for this man. Developed one of the rawest QB prospects ever and molded him into an MVP. We are grateful for Josh, but he should be grateful too. It goes both ways. His weapons here aren’t ideal, but he also has an o-line that gave up the least sacks and a very good rushing attack. Look at Burrow and Chase. It takes more than a good passing attack. Who would have thought Tom Brady would ever leave New England after 6 SB wins? Most great QB's end up finishing their careers elsewhere. Just so happens there are 3 NFL teams in his home state and they all have high profile HC's etc.. His wife-to-be lives and works in LA. They may decide they want to start raising a family. Be naive to the possibility if you wish. 2 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 11 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said: But she's ok with all the Ravens ProBowlers and our 1 besides Josh? Ok. And her assessment about the defenses is just wrong. Ok maybe in the end it statistically looked not too far off but by mid season those two defenses were going in different directions. Well that's why if I was in charge she wouldn't have a vote lol And it has nothing to do with sex because Ralph Wilson's daughter was a world class scout.. I don't think Diana Rossini knows what she's talking about 2 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted February 13 Posted February 13 34 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Who would have thought Tom Brady would ever leave New England after 6 SB wins? Most great QB's end up finishing their careers elsewhere. Just so happens there are 3 NFL teams in his home state and they all have high profile HC's etc.. His wife-to-be lives and works in LA. They may decide they want to start raising a family. Be naive to the possibility if you wish. Brutal perspective for many fans to acknowledge (must read like sacrilege or blasphemy to the majority of Bills faithful) but it would be irrational to deny the historical precedent. Then again, what a pointless and joyless reality to focus on before Josh Allen hits his mid-30s. I'd also argue that Allen, being who he appears to be, would hate to leave Buffalo without winning a SB first. (Then again, LeBron left Cleveland (the 1st time) after falling just short, repeatedly.) Maybe if the Bills win one in the next few seasons, I could then anticipate the breakup with logical eyes. 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted February 13 Posted February 13 12 hours ago, DapperCam said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dianna-russini-reveals-why-she-voted-against-josh-allen-for-nfl-mvp/ar-AA1yCXrv Dianna Rossini said that the reason she voted for Lamar over Allen, was because the Bills had a better defense. That reasoning makes no sense to me, and their defenses were actually ranked about the same at the end of the season. There are arguments that the Bills actually had a much worse defense (last in the league on 3rd down). Yeah we really shut down the Rams, Ravens & Lions. Sometimes you just can't cover up stupidity. 2 Quote
Doc Brown Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Who would have thought Tom Brady would ever leave New England after 6 SB wins? Most great QB's end up finishing their careers elsewhere. Just so happens there are 3 NFL teams in his home state and they all have high profile HC's etc.. His wife-to-be lives and works in LA. They may decide they want to start raising a family. Be naive to the possibility if you wish. Stafford and Palmer come to mind if we're talking a little more than half way through their career. Stafford was sick of the Lions always rebuilding and Palmer is experiencing exactly what Burrow is fighting right now. It's one of the reasons I'm more hesitant than most on here to fire Beane or McDermott. You could have a GM or head coach that takes the culture they created for granted. It seems like both are in constant dialogue with Allen and why I thought the Bills absolutely had to do the Diggs trade even if it meant eating the cap they had to eat this year without a plan B. 2 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted February 13 Posted February 13 10 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Brutal perspective for many fans to acknowledge (must read like sacrilege or blasphemy to the majority of Bills faithful) but it would be irrational to deny the historical precedent. Then again, what a pointless and joyless reality to focus on before Josh Allen hits his mid-30s. I'd also argue that Allen, being who he appears to be, would hate to leave Buffalo without winning a SB first. (Then again, LeBron left Cleveland (the 1st time) after falling just short, repeatedly.) Maybe if the Bills win one in the next few seasons, I could then anticipate the breakup with logical eyes. There is no need to focus on it but what it serves as is a reminder about what is important. Which is to keep Josh Allen happy while he is a superstar QB. So, for instance, the notion that some fans have that Beane should just throw all his assets at the defense and let Allen figure it out offensively doesn't hold up if you acknowledge that he has logical options elsewhere. Or for that matter, the idea that Allen "picked" Keon Coleman and therefore he can't complain if he doesn't pan out. That's not how it works. They have to keep championship quality talent around him. Then *maybe* he becomes that rare QB who retires with his original franchise. But it's more likely that he maneuvers his way home to finish his career OR he starts to fail and the Bills replace him. 2 2 Quote
Steptide Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Heads up, lots of cussing in this, but I love these AI voice overs 😅 https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFwmWdExQ-Y/?igsh=MXhoOHBwY3B4aHd3aw== 1 Quote
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