Can Brady scheme for #1 WR’s?

[Mikie2times]

Diggs for his sample under Brady was his worst since joining Buffalo. Cooper just had one of his worst seasons as a pro. I think most people see these outcomes as two separate things and that very well could be the case. Diggs was a little banged up + drama and Cooper was also banged up. But I’m also not ignoring the common denominator of the two being Brady especially when I see people advocating for that #1 WR. 
 

Do you think these two WR’s suffered decreases independent of Brady or do think his scheme limited them?  If the scheme limits #1’s do you still value a true #1 the same as you would in another scheme?
 

 

[billieve420]

I just want an offense that can attack at all 3 levels of the field. Have my doubts with Brady and the passing side of things. We finally have a good run game but the pass offense is not as dynamic. Is part of it talent sure but I need see Brady be more creative in scheming guys open for Josh. Offense too reliant on Josh buying time scrambling when guys are not open and then trying to make a play which is not sustainable. Jealous of the Chiefs and how they run their offense. 

[Richard Noggin]

Brady's scheme with Buffalo, to date, obviously hasn't been designed to feature a particular WR/target consistently, week-over-week. So the "everyone eats" mantra has been touted instead, and for the most part, I appreciate that approach.

 

However, doesn't it seem like anything the Bills have really wanted to do in the passing game, generally, philosophically, like any ways they've intended to utilize specific targets, has either been anticipated by defenses and shut down, or just hasn't worked. I'm thinking of Harty and Samuel each of the last two years, respectively, being that motion/sweep guy, or screen guy, and also of Davis and Coleman, respectively, being that sideline/contested catch guy, and even Kincaid being much of anything to fear/respect. The obvious fits haven't "fit" in the passing game. 

 

Brady's real successes have come from isolating Ty Johnson in the passing game one week, and Dawson Knox another week, and often from Allen just making plays and finding Shakir (along with some flashes by the rookie Coleman and decent skinny posts by Hollins). Something still seems to be missing from the passing game, if we're looking for things to flag. It's gotta be the downfield threat, or lack thereof. Right?

[MasterStrategist]

Diggs wasn't a #1 anymore, and he was battling injury/ego issues.  Cooper coming in during season, creates challenges in of itself, then his wrist injury-and not even sure he's more than a #2 at this point either.

 

I'm slightly concerned with the style of offense we ran, that it will be near impossible to replicate next year--- OL stayed almost perfectly healthy, 0 turnovers by skill players, Josh played most efficient I've ever seen.  

 

Can't argue with the results, but just felt like we were taking the ball out of Josh's hands too much.  Understandably though, when our defense was so talent deficient and we wanted to eat clock.

 

All that to say, I hope Beane can add more speed/"separation" ability to this offense.  It's a missing piece that even 1 key addition could lead to a much more opened up offense.

 

 

EDIT: I also find it alarming when we see Beane's top picks in past 2 drafts underwhelm this year.  Plus, Samuel hobbled or not was a miss.  And the Cooper trade never worked out as well as intended.  Lots of variables.  But I will say, Beane has missed alot on the draft at certain spots- rookie Josh contract allowed Beane to go after Beas/Brown/trade #1 for Diggs.  Now, it gets tougher and he needs to start really hitting humeruns at DL/WR if we want to stay elite.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by MasterStrategist

[eSJayDee]

I think one question is - why would you want to?  The idea is to get someONE open.  Doesn't matter who.  Yes, you'd rather have someone wide open 30 yds downfield as opposed to 3, but it's much easier to take what the defense gives you.  If you're trying to "scheme" that guy open 30 yds downfield, that is much easier accomplished if the defense doesn't know who you're gonna throw it to.  Look at the success throwing to Diggs as opposed to Shakir or Kincaid the end of '23.  Shakir was FAR more successful - more completions for more yards on far less attempts.

[LABILLBACKER]

I have absolutely no idea how Brady's offense will evolve?  I think the use of so many receiving options helped but the everyone eats philosophy will get figured out.  I still see great value in a field stretching X.  BTJ would've been amazing. And it's not like we saw alot of separation throughout the season.  

 

Josh needs a reliable #1 WR he can finish his last 8+ years with. This organization owes him that much. And if Joe's system doesn't work with a true speed #1, then he better be prepared to figure it out.

Edited 29 minutes ago by LABILLBACKER