transplantbillsfan Posted February 4 Posted February 4 and focus on Defense almost entirely. UFAs: Amari Cooper, Reggie Gilliam, Ty Johnson Over a week to reflect on that loss and the personell on our team is pretty clearly lacking on Defense, not offense. OL: 100% set. I don't even see a single OL from the 53 man roster who won't be on there again next year. For all the criticism Beane has been getting, applaud him for a pretty awesome OL... both starters and depth. QB: obviously it's JA17 and who cares other than maybe money and who gives him the best vibes. TE: set. Knox and Kincaid are pretty much roster locks. Morris and Davidson can fight it out for TE3 even though it'll probably be Morris. RB: obviously Cook and Davis. Team loves Gilliam so I assume they're going to work something out. Ty Johnson is the wildcard. He was honestly really good this year and might be the only offensive player we're going to see leave. I do think Ray Davis has a similar skillset and if he absorbed anything from Ty, I hope it's pass blocking. Hope Cook absorbed that, too. (Side note: extend Cook and create an offense that is Cook-centric in BOTH the run and pass game the way Thurm was in the 90s) Wide Receiver: Here's the one everyone is up in arms about, but after McBeane's presser I feel differently. Shakir is great and I hope Beane finds a way to lock him up long term on a deal good for both sides. He's obviously Josh's favorite target and they have great chemistry that can grow. Samuel is on the team, contractually. He flashed when he was healthy. If he can stay healthy, he has great separation skills and speed. Coleman is on the team, obviously. Good rookie season and getting better up til he got hurt. Then we all heard McBeane's comments. They had their exit interview and told Keon what they needed to. Work hard in the offseason (with the next 2 dudes) Keon. Mack Hollins seems like a guy who isn't chasing money. Sign him, please. Awesome special teamer who legitimately plays the WR position well and has awesome perspective for the other guys. Amari Cooper is the most controversial, but I think we should keep him. He was playing with a wrist injured enough that doctors said he could use surgery. First thing about him is his attitude. He's the anti-WR... just listen to his interviews. And he seems to love Buffalo. I heard someone say he's estimated at $15m per year? That's too much. I also doubt that's reality. I could see us re-signing him to a 2 year $18-$20 million deal and I'd be good with that. In the 90s Buffalo traded for a #2 WR who was 33 years old and that worked out pretty well. I think a healthy Amari Cooper with a full offseason with Buffalo would make for a much improved WR corps on its own. At that point, it's playcalling not personell. It's on you Brady! GO BILLS!!! 6 4 1 1 2 Quote
BillMafia716ix Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Nah we need a playmaker at WR. Someone that’s going to command a double team. If they can find upgrade to Mack Hollins or Amari Cooper they should do it 7 6 Quote
K D Posted February 4 Posted February 4 And the defense? They have been historically bad in the postseason. And I don't see how anyone would think we should sign Cooper. That guy is washed. 4 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Resign Mack and Ty. Let Cooper walk. Draft the team’s 6th WR in 1st or 2nd round. Get faster, younger and cheaper at the WR position. Between Keon and whoever they draft, see if we can hit on these young guys. Worst case, we know JA brings the best out of guys around him and we trade for a WR rental midseason if desperate (which I don’t expect). 2 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Nah we need a playmaker at WR. Someone that’s going to command a double team. If they can find upgrade to Mack Hollins or Amari Cooper they should do it Sounds like someone who will also command the ball. Allen is too much of a People pleaser. Amari had the perfect attitude. The guy had 1250 yards in 15 games with an ADOT of over 14 yards in 2023. Keep Cooper if the price is less than $10m AAV 2 hours ago, K D said: And the defense? They have been historically bad in the postseason. And I don't see how anyone would think we should sign Cooper. That guy is washed. I see that you're one of those folks who reads the title and nothing else. Edited February 4 by transplantbillsfan 2 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) I would rather sign Darius Slayton over Cooper. But besides that I would bring back every one else. Also draft a WR with speed. Somewhere 2nd-4th round. Edited February 4 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote
Doc Brown Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I would rather sign Darius Slayton over Cooper. But besides that I would bring back every one else. Also draft a WR with speed. Somewhere 2nd-4th round. I'd rather trade for Cooper Kupp and draft a vertical threat. 1 Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted February 4 Posted February 4 4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: and focus on Defense almost entirely. UFAs: Amari Cooper, Reggie Gilliam, Ty Johnson Over a week to reflect on that loss and the personell on our team is pretty clearly lacking on Defense, not offense. TE: set. Knox and Kincaid are pretty much roster locks. Morris and Davidson can fight it out for TE3 even though it'll probably be Morris. Wide Receiver: Here's the one offseason with Buffalo would make for a much improved WR corps on its own. At that point, it's playcalling not personell. It's on you Brady! GO BILLS!!! I disagree on WR and TE. We need at least one boundary or vertical threat at WR. Someone who can get separation. I would look to add one vet and one Rd 1-2 WR. The fringe players, on the roster now, can go by the wayside. Contractual issues aside, Samuel is one of those marginal players. Depending on who we get, I don't mind Cooper going. Whether it's his availability or inability to mesh with this offense, he has been marginally effective. Not good enough My controversial take is that Kincaid should be dangled for a trade. Imo, he is not a hard nosed player and did not show growth from his rookie year. Agree on everything else for offense 2 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 My gut instinct is to to thumbs down this post. It's my belief that we didn't have enough firepower on the Outside to go band for band against KC and that's the main reason we lost. On the other hand - it's been reported that Amari Cooper was playing through Wrist injury that required surgery: If that's the case, it would explain why he was used so sparingly. If with surgery and a full offseason with the team, they planned on using him as a full time starter - I'd be open to bringing him back. But only in that situation. If that were the case though and they were running it back with a healthy full time Cooper, they had better do something huge in the Defensive Line and/or the Secondary. 2 Quote
njbuff Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) Re-sign Cooper and draft Jalen Royals in the second round. WR problem solved. Use the rest of the draft, FA and trades to shore up the holes on D. Edited February 4 by njbuff 1 Quote
Pete Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 6 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Wide Receiver: Here's the one everyone is up in arms about, but after McBeane's presser I feel differently. Coleman is on the team, obviously. Good rookie season and getting better up til he got hurt. Then we all heard McBeane's comments. They had their exit interview and told Keon what they needed to. Work hard in the offseason (with the next 2 dudes) Keon. Mack Hollins seems like a guy who isn't chasing money. Sign him, please. Awesome special teamer who legitimately plays the WR position well and has awesome perspective for the other guys. Amari Cooper is the most controversial, but I think we should keep him. He was playing with a wrist injured enough that doctors said he could use surgery. First thing about him is his attitude. He's the anti-WR... just listen to his interviews. And he seems to love Buffalo. I heard someone say he's estimated at $15m per year? That's too much. I also doubt that's reality. I could see us re-signing him to a 2 year $18-$20 million deal and I'd be good with that. In the 90s Buffalo traded for a #2 WR who was 33 years old and that worked out pretty well. I think a healthy Amari Cooper with a full offseason with Buffalo would make for a much improved WR corps on its own. LMAO. Keon is bust city. We are desperate for WR that can separate, take the top off the D, run a full route tree. Keon does none of the above. Plodding Keon cannot beat a jam. He is a fish out of water lining up outside. I know what my eyes see- a plodding, awkward WR who prefers playing paddy cakes then high pointing the ball. Beane, McD, Marino, etc have echoed my concerns publicly. Keon has caught only 7 out of 21 passes since the Poyer hit. Shakir is the only WR that can get open. WR1- empty WR2- Samuel- dude has been hurt most of his career Shakir- great slot guy WR4-Hollins- if we re-sign him WR5- WR6-Keon, barely making team. He can’t separate, and he doesn’t play special teams. An awful draft pick imo ^this is not SuperBowl quality WR! Bills are desperate for WR who can separate!!!!!!! WR needs a major overhaul, as does DL and Secondary- Facts! Edited February 4 by Pete 2 1 2 1 Quote
Pete Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Coleman is on the team, obviously. Good rookie season 82 catches on 112 targets for 1147 yards and 7 TDs- thats a great rookie WR season. Not Keon, though, Ladd McConkey- they WR we passed on. Thats a good season. 7 catches in last 21 attempts- that is a pathetic rookie season! also, they say this is the deepest RB class ever. I love Ty, and would like him back. But if he gets paid elsewhere, Im happy for him. Draft his replacement 3 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) I’m okay bringing back the guys that are FAs including Cooper at the right price. I believe that he can be the 1 if healthy and used appropriately. With that being said, I’m okay trying something different at the top of the depth chart. I’d be fine if they were able to get Luther Burden for example. I year ago I would have said that there is no chance that they could get him but I’m seeing him around 20 in a lot of mocks. Don’t give Coleman anything. He can’t get open and was not good. Throwing the ball to him is so low percentage because he’s never open. Don’t give up on him and hope that he develops but don’t count on him for a big role either. You can’t just run it back. You need to add to the offense. The Bills weren’t explosive enough down the field. They saw single high as much as pretty much any team in football. They didn’t scare anyone vertically and were too easy to defend. I don’t care how many points they scored. They have a glaring hole. They are aware of that glaring hole. Why wouldn’t they address that glaring hole? Edited February 4 by Kirby Jackson 6 1 1 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted February 4 Posted February 4 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I'd rather trade for Cooper Kupp and draft a vertical threat. No! Not at $20M per! I think he’s redundant here, but if you want Kupp he’ll be a FA soon. 3 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 4 Posted February 4 8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: and focus on Defense almost entirely. UFAs: Amari Cooper, Reggie Gilliam, Ty Johnson Over a week to reflect on that loss and the personell on our team is pretty clearly lacking on Defense, not offense. OL: 100% set. I don't even see a single OL from the 53 man roster who won't be on there again next year. For all the criticism Beane has been getting, applaud him for a pretty awesome OL... both starters and depth. QB: obviously it's JA17 and who cares other than maybe money and who gives him the best vibes. TE: set. Knox and Kincaid are pretty much roster locks. Morris and Davidson can fight it out for TE3 even though it'll probably be Morris. RB: obviously Cook and Davis. Team loves Gilliam so I assume they're going to work something out. Ty Johnson is the wildcard. He was honestly really good this year and might be the only offensive player we're going to see leave. I do think Ray Davis has a similar skillset and if he absorbed anything from Ty, I hope it's pass blocking. Hope Cook absorbed that, too. (Side note: extend Cook and create an offense that is Cook-centric in BOTH the run and pass game the way Thurm was in the 90s) Wide Receiver: Here's the one everyone is up in arms about, but after McBeane's presser I feel differently. Shakir is great and I hope Beane finds a way to lock him up long term on a deal good for both sides. He's obviously Josh's favorite target and they have great chemistry that can grow. Samuel is on the team, contractually. He flashed when he was healthy. If he can stay healthy, he has great separation skills and speed. Coleman is on the team, obviously. Good rookie season and getting better up til he got hurt. Then we all heard McBeane's comments. They had their exit interview and told Keon what they needed to. Work hard in the offseason (with the next 2 dudes) Keon. Mack Hollins seems like a guy who isn't chasing money. Sign him, please. Awesome special teamer who legitimately plays the WR position well and has awesome perspective for the other guys. Amari Cooper is the most controversial, but I think we should keep him. He was playing with a wrist injured enough that doctors said he could use surgery. First thing about him is his attitude. He's the anti-WR... just listen to his interviews. And he seems to love Buffalo. I heard someone say he's estimated at $15m per year? That's too much. I also doubt that's reality. I could see us re-signing him to a 2 year $18-$20 million deal and I'd be good with that. In the 90s Buffalo traded for a #2 WR who was 33 years old and that worked out pretty well. I think a healthy Amari Cooper with a full offseason with Buffalo would make for a much improved WR corps on its own. At that point, it's playcalling not personell. It's on you Brady! GO BILLS!!! The Cooper trade was a waste of a 3rd round pick IMHO. Allen, Beane tries to tell us he did great, opened things up etc. But he would have done that if he had played more, put up numbers and been a legit threat. Quote
NoSaint Posted February 4 Posted February 4 8 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Nah we need a playmaker at WR. Someone that’s going to command a double team. If they can find upgrade to Mack Hollins or Amari Cooper they should do it I’ll continue to say that running the ball 100+ times with JA17 is a symptom of a problem that we would be well served to solve 1 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Of the players on the OP's UFA list I think Gilliam will be the only one back. Gilliam is a rarely used FB most valuable on Special Teams and won't cost much. Ty Johnson I'd love to see back but someone will pay him more than we can and give him more touches than we can. Amari Cooper is known to not like the cold, can't blame him. I think the going rate for him will be more than we want to pay. I could see him playing in the state of Texas next season. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Beane reads thread. Beane sees consensus opinion regarding re-signing Cooper at a reasonable price. Beane negotiates a multi year deal for Cooper that sportswriters deem overly generous. Beane puts on those aviator shades, and vogues. 2 Quote
Beast Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) If Samuel is healthy next season he will be a force. He seems to be the forgotten man. Edited February 4 by Beast 2 Quote
RiotAct Posted February 4 Posted February 4 8 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Nah we need a playmaker at WR. Someone that’s going to command a double team. yep. Pretty much our only need on offense, but it’s a big one. Quote
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