Cooper Kupp leaving the Rams. Want him?

[ghostwriter]

Yes please.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

20 million per year ?

 

[QCity]

Would have been a great move 5 years ago.

 

He'll be 32, hasn't made it through a season in 4 years, and is getting ~$23M a year?  😂😂😂

[JerseyBills]

Shakir was always my comparison to Kupp

Don't need him

[NoName]

All depends on the price.  Maybe on a one year 10 mil

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I'd be much more interested in this. Yes Kupp is past his prime but that lowers his trade value and he's not quite the slot-only WR he's made out to be with a 56.5% slot percentage this year. Get a savvy  veteran with separation ability in the room. Where's the downside?

 

I am a big Kupp fan having lived in LA for all his career.  Always liked his game.  

 

But...I will tell you the downside...everything is about fit.  Does he bring the elements this group needs right now at this stage of his career?  The answer is no, because he is redundancy on this roster with both Shakir and Samuel here.  

 

This roster needs a down field outside threat, we have tons of options over the middle in the short to mid range attack that Kupp eats at right now.  

 

Would I be upset if we get Kupp...of course not.  But do I think he changes much for this offense this next season...probably not a whole lot.  This offense was the 16th best offense in NFL history and greatest in Bills history.  If anyone really expects to improve upon that, then we need to add someone that adds a dimension this offense is missing, and Kupp doesn't bring much of that at this stage of his career.  

 

I think he can still be a very good player for someone, but I don't think he changes a whole lot for the Bills offense based on the makeup of our roster right now.  

[ghostwriter]

22 minutes ago, QCity said:

Would have been a great move 5 years ago.

 

He'll be 32, hasn't made it through a season in 4 years, and is getting ~$23M a year?  😂😂😂

His contract details could be reworked.

[MiltonWaddams]

Been a big fan of this guy for the past five seasons, but I watched him get old and often injured the past three seasons. I wouldn’t be mad if it was the right deal, but his contract is too big and he doesn’t fit the need that this team has.If they had him three years ago, that would’ve been great, but he’s not the right fit. 

[Doc Brown]

 

[QCity]

16 minutes ago, ghostwriter said:

His contract details could be reworked.

 

[Doc Brown]

26 minutes ago, NoName said:

All depends on the price.  Maybe on a one year 10 mil

He's not a free agent and would cost $20m against our cap this year and $19m in 2026.  Unless he renegotiates his contract or the Rams eat some of that money it's not happening.

[LABILLBACKER]

6 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

And Higgins. 

I agree, if we exhaust every scenario to land Garrett or Crosby,  then just sign Higgins.  Clearly we suck at drafting wrs and Dlineman. 

[Mango]

5 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Kupp is 100% a process guy. Plus, probably a great scheme fit. I actually think the Bills might be the spot.

 

At $20M in cap dollars he’ll cost at best a 4th or worse. If the Rams keep money they’ll be looking for a top 100 pick maybe even a 2nd. I’m not sure I’d pull the trigger on another inside receiver given our other needs. 
 

But I also agree with you that I think this one could maybe happen. 

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I am a big Kupp fan having lived in LA for all his career.  Always liked his game.  

 

But...I will tell you the downside...everything is about fit.  Does he bring the elements this group needs right now at this stage of his career?  The answer is no, because he is redundancy on this roster with both Shakir and Samuel here.  

He's more versatile than both and is a better route runner and separator.  Shakir excels at exploiting zone coverage and YAC.  Samuel got better as the year went on but I was expecting more out of him.  He just never seemed to click in this offense.  You wonder how much injuries played a role  If it wasn't for the price tag I'd be all over this.  WR depth is a great thing to have.  Kupp is basically an older Ladd McConkey.  The one drawback besides the money is he won't stretch the field vertically which is what this offense needs to become even more lethal.

[ShakAttack]

yeah, no, will be 32 soon, and the last thing we need is to depend on more injury prone players.  Availability is the #1 asset.   If you can't be depended on to be available in big games, doesn't matter how good you are frankly.

 

Focus on Crosby/Garrett.  You want this team to improve?  DLine is how.  At least Beane and Mcdermott recognize that great teams excel in the trenches.  We have finally solidified the OL.  Now we need to do the same with the DL.  We never get to Mahomes in the playoffs including this year when they had issues with their own OL, and 3 years ago couldn't sniff Burrow who was also behind a bad OL.  This is getting very old.  We had the right idea with Von, but wrong guy; too old.

 

Our wr room is almost full and with the 1 remaining spot we need someone with a unique skill set not already on the roster.

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

He's more versatile than both and is a better route runner and separator.  Shakir excels at exploiting zone coverage and YAC.  Samuel got better as the year went on but I was expecting more out of him.  He just never seemed to click in this offense.  You wonder how much injuries played a role  If it wasn't for the price tag I'd be all over this.  WR depth is a great thing to have.  Kupp is basically an older Ladd McConkey.  The one drawback besides the money is he won't stretch the field vertically which is what this offense needs to become even more lethal.

 

This was my entire point, he just adds more of what we already have and doesn't provide what we lack.  Now factor in Shakir, Samuel, and Keon are all 100% back.  Hollins is probably back, and Cooper is the wildcard.  Obviously Cooper isn't back if they traded for Kupp...and now with Kupp we have an even bigger deficit on the outside than we did this year.  

 

Kupp just is not the right fit for what the offense lacks, so he shouldn't be on our radar at all IMHO.  And I like Kupp a lot and still think he can be good for someone this year, but we need a legit threat on the outside to elevate the composition of this WR group.  

[ProcessTruster]

10 hours ago, JohnNord said:

No… would have been the ideal player in 2022.  
 

There’s too much redundancy in his skill set and Shakir, Samuel, and Dalton “big slot” Kincaid.  
 

Maybe if they’ll trade Kupp for Samuel

Couple points:

 

Both Kincaid and Samuel were pretty seriously injured most of the season andplayed at, who knows, 70-80% and looked like crap (like most guys playing with injuries they shouldnt e playing with).  That matters.  And fans just react to what they see

 

My assumption is

 

1)  Kincaid comes in 10-15 lbs heavier and a lot stronger next season; he must have been told to do this, and McD as much as said this is important "...to make it through the entire season..." 

AND

2) Samuel will come in completely healthy and fast and will actually be the guy they traded for

 

So not sure you see a lot in the WR room other than a big move for a boundary speedster .  no idea who that will be.  

 

 

[davefan66]

Would trade for Kupp circa 2020/2021 in a heartbeat for 20 mill/year.

 

Now?  Not so much. If his cap hit was 8 or 9 million?  Would be more attractive, wouldn’t give up more than a 5th for him.  
 

Problem is, as stated by a few others, we have enough slot guys. We need a field stretching outside guy. Someone to be a true threat down the field taking defenders further than 10 yards. Currently, defenses stack the LOS because they aren’t concerned about deep threats and clog up the short field.

 

I’d much prefer the team work with Kincaid snd Coleman to make them better at their positions.  

[Kirby Jackson]

11 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I’d give one of the two 2nd’s for him I think

 

Kupp

Cooper ? (Seems he’d be gone)

Shakir

Hollins

Coleman

Samuel

 

I’m thinking more like a 5th for Kupp but I could get behind that WR room if Cooper is at the right price & healthy. That looks WAY more dangerous. I’m not sure that it is good enough vertically but Cooper can fill that role. He has before.

Edited 19 hours ago by Kirby Jackson

[stlbills13]

Maybe we can pull off a Lakers mavericks trade and get Puka instead