Buffalo716 Posted Monday at 09:15 PM Posted Monday at 09:15 PM (edited) There's a lot of debate about what type of guy Josh needs... A big physical freak like DK... A Jamar Chase etc Look what Josh did with John Brown.. arguably our offense , passing wise has never been the same since Brown left He was much better than Gabe, reliable hands good route runner and burner DeSean Jackson mold is the exact type guy we need to get Josh.. whether it's in the draft or getting a chase like guy I made a thread here years ago about wide receiver nuance in the route running.. about how the best have varied speeds in the route running.. they don't just all run full speed throughout the route that's easy to actually stop Need nuance, change of pace, leverage Watch DeSean Jackson in the clip up top.. going through multiple speeds in his route... Setting up and leveraging the safety just to go from 12 miles an hour to 22 in an instant That's real savvy route running with great speed A prime DeShaun Jackson would turn Josh unstoppable... I definitely would take Chase over DK because of route saviness and I hope we get get Josh a savvy route runner with some Wheels because that will take our offense and josh to another level Edited Monday at 09:16 PM by Buffalo716 6 1 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted Monday at 09:18 PM Posted Monday at 09:18 PM (edited) So you are saying we need Diggs (just a joke) Edited Monday at 09:56 PM by Alphadawg7 2 6 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted Monday at 09:19 PM Author Posted Monday at 09:19 PM Just now, Alphadawg7 said: So you are saying we need Diggs Diggs doesn't have the burners though He's fast enough not super fast for the NFL 1 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted Monday at 09:23 PM Posted Monday at 09:23 PM 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: So you are saying we need Diggs Diggs is about as far from Desean Jackson as can be for WR Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted Monday at 09:25 PM Posted Monday at 09:25 PM Xavier Worthy is probably the closest thing to Jackson I’ve seen come out of college. Jackson is very rare. There’s really only one player ever like him. 4 1 Quote
Ya Digg? Posted Monday at 09:27 PM Posted Monday at 09:27 PM 10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: There's a lot of debate about what type of guy Josh needs... A big physical freak like DK... A Jamar Chase etc Look what Josh did with John Brown.. arguably our offense , passing wise has never been the same since Brown left He was much better than Gabe, reliable hands good route runner and burner DeSean Jackson mold is the exact type guy we need to get Josh.. whether it's in the draft or getting a chase like guy I made a thread here years ago about wide receiver nuance in the route running.. about how the best have varied speeds in the route running.. they don't just all run full speed throughout the route that's easy to actually stop Need nuance, change of pace, leverage Watch DeSean Jackson in the clip up top.. going through multiple speeds in his route... Setting up and leveraging the safety just to go from 12 miles an hour to 22 in an instant That's real savvy route running with great speed A prime DeShaun Jackson would turn Josh unstoppable... I definitely would take Chase over DK because of route saviness and I hope we get get Josh a savvy route runner with some Wheels because that will take our offense and josh to another level So you’re saying that Josh needs arguably the best receiver in the league, and if it was up to you, you would choose the best receiver in the league over a guy who might not even be top 10? 2 Quote
GoBills808 Posted Monday at 09:31 PM Posted Monday at 09:31 PM 3 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: So you’re saying that Josh needs arguably the best receiver in the league, and if it was up to you, you would choose the best receiver in the league over a guy who might not even be top 10? No He's saying the MVS experiment needs to be recalibrated Quote
st pete gogolak Posted Monday at 09:34 PM Posted Monday at 09:34 PM And we passed on Jackson . . . to pick a receiver! 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted Monday at 09:41 PM Author Posted Monday at 09:41 PM 14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Xavier Worthy is probably the closest thing to Jackson I’ve seen come out of college. Jackson is very rare. There’s really only one player ever like him. They're not even close And yeah Jackson is one of the best deep threats in NFL history.. Worthy is a one speed pony.. he literally has none of the nuance or change of pace ability that Jackson has He's just really fast 2 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted Monday at 09:42 PM Posted Monday at 09:42 PM 15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Xavier Worthy is probably the closest thing to Jackson I’ve seen come out of college. Jackson is very rare. There’s really only one player ever like him. I agree, Desean Jackson is an all-time great, when we're talking about deep threats. To answer the OP's question, I would say the ideal guy, is a less injury prone Tee Higgins. Speed threat with size and length. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted Monday at 09:44 PM Author Posted Monday at 09:44 PM (edited) 3 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said: I agree, Desean Jackson is an all-time great, when we're talking about deep threats. To answer the OP's question, I would say the ideal guy, is a less injury prone Tee Higgins. Speed threat with size and length. Everybody wants somebody who has all the physical skills with the size But DeSean Jackson is a better deep threat than DK Metcalf.. he's a better route runner.. a savvier player .. has another gear when the ball is in the air I'll take to Sean Jackson over it Like I like DK but I would take DeSean Jackson over him 18 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: So you’re saying that Josh needs arguably the best receiver in the league, and if it was up to you, you would choose the best receiver in the league over a guy who might not even be top 10? I said Josh needs a DeSean Jackson He was never considered the best in the league lol I said Chase might be the closest guy to him to which I would take But we need the skill set of DeSean Jackson Edited Monday at 09:45 PM by Buffalo716 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted Monday at 09:45 PM Posted Monday at 09:45 PM 25 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Diggs doesn't have the burners though He's fast enough not super fast for the NFL 21 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Diggs is about as far from Desean Jackson as can be for WR It was a joke based on all the other things described about the player 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted Monday at 09:46 PM Author Posted Monday at 09:46 PM 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: It was a joke based on all the other things described about the player I could tell 2 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted Monday at 09:48 PM Posted Monday at 09:48 PM I have always said Lee Evans played for the wrong Bills era, he would be insane with Allen 10 6 1 Quote
quincy Posted Monday at 09:50 PM Posted Monday at 09:50 PM Stevie Johnson urges Bills to pursue 6-time Pro Bowl WR in free agency Stevie is lobbying for Keenan Allen - last year yielded 15 starts and 744 yards and seven touchdowns for the Bears. 4 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted Monday at 09:50 PM Posted Monday at 09:50 PM We just need one good outside receiver - whatever that looks like. Right now our best boundary receiver is Mack Hollins. Let that sink in. Our best receiver is MACK HOLLINS. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted Monday at 09:52 PM Author Posted Monday at 09:52 PM 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I have always said Lee Evans played for the wrong Bills era, he would be insane with Allen Yes he would Lee Evans was a very very good wide receiver in his prime 6 ft tall, could run routes, he can jump and he had the burners 2 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted Monday at 09:53 PM Posted Monday at 09:53 PM 1 minute ago, quincy said: Stevie Johnson urges Bills to pursue 6-time Pro Bowl WR in free agency Stevie is lobbying for Keenan Allen - last year yielded 15 starts and 744 yards and seven touchdowns for the Bears. I can barely imagine a less inspiring move than signing an oft-injured over the hill Allen. I have no desire to sign Amari Cooper, but I'd still do that in a second before pursuing Keenan Allen. 2 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted Monday at 09:53 PM Author Posted Monday at 09:53 PM 19 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: And we passed on Jackson . . . to pick a receiver! Honestly it was so long ago I don't even remember... Who did we pick? James Hardie 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted Monday at 09:54 PM Posted Monday at 09:54 PM (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: We just need one good outside receiver - whatever that looks like. Right now our best boundary receiver is Mack Hollins. Let that sink in. Our best receiver is MACK HOLLINS. While he is a boundary WR, he was still just our 4th WR this year. And the Bills offense just put up the 16th best offense in the history of the NFL and best in Bills history. Our offense isn't the travesty some people make it sound like when expressing WR concerns. But don't get me wrong, we absolutely need to address WR this offseason...but I do very much hope, and expect, that Hollins will be back because he was a good player for the Bills this year. Edited Monday at 09:55 PM by Alphadawg7 2 Quote
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