Myles Garrett requests a trade

[Alphadawg7]

2 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

I agree. Add the piece that's hardest to find with Garrett, and fill the other holes through draft/FA. In my opinion, ai only see 4 clear holes, and Garrett fills the biggest one. Not to mention, the domino effect he will have on the rest of the line. 

 

1. Premier pass rusher - trade for Garrett.

2. Get bigger up the middle and find replacement for DQ - preferably draft with a day 2 pick or FA

3. Boundary Receiver with speed - likely have to find them in the draft or via another trade, if you have enough draft capital left. Perfect world, might be a pipe dream, but DK Metcalf.

4. No.2 CB - draft or FA

 

That's my list/order.

 

This is where I am at too...Get Garrett (or Crosby) first and foremost.  Then on DK, I would throw out a 2nd and one of our 4ths/5ths and see if Seattle bites.  If we don't find that WR in trade or FA, then I think you turn your attention to signing a CB like DJ Reed as another poster proposed in a thread, or maybe at S with Holland and then go be aggressive in the draft at WR and beef in the middle of the DL. 

[Allen2Moulds]

7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

This is where I am at too...Get Garrett (or Crosby) first and foremost.  Then on DK, I would throw out a 2nd and one of our 4ths/5ths and see if Seattle bites.  If we don't find that WR in trade or FA, then I think you turn your attention to signing a CB like DJ Reed as another poster proposed in a thread, or maybe at S with Holland and then go be aggressive in the draft at WR and beef in the middle of the DL. 

Where are you on Tee Higgins? My first thought was that he misses too much time, but in looking at his games played, that might be overblown. He's only 26, and might be a FA. I don't think Cincy can afford to resign him. He's also not a diva. Just seems like the perfect match/all in move, in addition to Garrett.

Edited 12 hours ago by Allen2Moulds

[ColoradoBills]

24 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

Where are you on Tee Higgins? My first thought was that he misses too much time, but in looking at his games played, that might be overblown. He's only 26, and might be a FA. I don't think Cincy can afford to resign him. He's also not a diva. Just seems like the perfectatch/all in move, in addition to Garrett.

 

Bengals have $50M in cap space before they do any restructures.

They can sign him if they want.

 

That being said, Bills should look into Tee Higgins.

[Allen2Moulds]

15 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Bengals have $50M in cap space before they do any restructures.

They can sign him if they want.

 

That being said, Bills should look into Tee Higgins.

I'm not disputing this, but the general sentiment is that they won't pay Chase and Higgins and have hinted at such. I believe they, like the Raiders, are often cash poor, which I believe comes into play with signing bonuses, but I don't pretend to be a cap expert. 

[Alphadawg7]

30 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

Where are you on Tee Higgins? My first thought was that he misses too much time, but in looking at his games played, that might be overblown. He's only 26, and might be a FA. I don't think Cincy can afford to resign him. He's also not a diva. Just seems like the perfect match/all in move, in addition to Garrett.

 

If we can afford to make it work depending on how much he is looking for, I would be on board with Higgins.  Previously I was not interested in him last year when people talked about trading for him because I was worried he would not be suited to be a lead WR.  But now seeing this offense this season and how we don't need to have a lead "diggs like" WR, I think Higgins would both fit in really well and solve what we need.  

[ColoradoBills]

28 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

I'm not disputing this, but the general sentiment is that they won't pay Chase and Higgins and have hinted at such. I believe they, like the Raiders, are often cash poor, which I believe comes into play with signing bonuses, but I don't pretend to be a cap expert. 

 

Boyd is gone and Gesicki is a FA.  They have a couple of unproven WRs on rookie contracts.

Higgins helps Chase as much as the other way around.  

It will be interesting to see if they just let Higgins walk away.

 

Like I said, if I was Beane I would be talking with Higgins agent.

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

It is a mess in Cleveland.  Much more than most on this board realize.  The thing is trading Garrett cost more cap than keeping him.

His hit in $20M and it costs $36M to trade him.  They probably will have to trade him but it's not easy for them to do it.

He will be a June 1st allocation 

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

He will be a June 1st allocation 

 

 

There is no post-June 1 designation for trades. If you want the cap benefits, you need to wait all the way until June 2 and beyond. When the Green Bay Packers traded Aaron Rodgers, they completed the move in April 2023 and his entire $40.3 million dead cap hit was accounted for in 2023.

 

https://www.sbnation.com/2024/5/29/24166975/nfl-post-june-1-designation-explained-explainer-salary-cap-what-is-it-release-trade#:~:text=There is no post-June,was accounted for in 2023.

 

 

[ColoradoBills]

Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:

 

I know.  That is why their GM is in a pickle with all this.

 

The crazy thing is that the Browns have added so much dead cap in future void years they have no real players to get rid of to clear cap.

In 2026 they have a bunch of good players going to free agency with a combined $75M in dead cap hits.

They are truly F'd.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/overview/_/year/2026/sort/cap_total

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I know.  That is why their GM is in a pickle with all this.

 

The crazy thing is that the Browns have added so much dead cap in future void years they have no real players to get rid of to clear cap.

In 2026 they have a bunch of good players going to free agency with a combined $75M in dead cap hits.

They are truly F'd.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/overview/_/year/2026/sort/cap_total

Dang... Their owner is the literal definition of idiot.

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I know.  That is why their GM is in a pickle with all this.

 

The crazy thing is that the Browns have added so much dead cap in future void years they have no real players to get rid of to clear cap.

In 2026 they have a bunch of good players going to free agency with a combined $75M in dead cap hits.

They are truly F'd.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/overview/_/year/2026/sort/cap_total

 

It couldn’t happen to a more deserving owner, but I sure do feel for their fans. I know some, and football makes them sad. 

[Alphadawg7]

6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I know.  That is why their GM is in a pickle with all this.

 

The crazy thing is that the Browns have added so much dead cap in future void years they have no real players to get rid of to clear cap.

In 2026 they have a bunch of good players going to free agency with a combined $75M in dead cap hits.

They are truly F'd.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/overview/_/year/2026/sort/cap_total

 

Exactly why the Browns will not be taking any players back if they trade Garrett.  They got 2 years of tanking in front of them due to the cap.  By the time they will be competitive even in their own division again Garrett will be on his last legs.  So I think he gets traded and it will be only for picks.

[ColoradoBills]

16 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Exactly why the Browns will not be taking any players back if they trade Garrett.  They got 2 years of tanking in front of them due to the cap.  By the time they will be competitive even in their own division again Garrett will be on his last legs.  So I think he gets traded and it will be only for picks.

 

As I see it, they already have so many picks this year that the best thing for them are picks in 2026 and 2027.

[Augie]

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

As I see it, they already have so many picks this year that the best thing for them are picks in 2026 and 2027.

 

I know people always say that lowers the value of the pick to be down the road (and I get it), but they sure are nice when you look up and say “HEY! We have an extra 2nd next draft from the deal I had forgotten about!” 

[GASabresIUFan]

I was just looking at the cap hit for Garrett vs Crosby.  Am I wrong for possibly wanting Crosby?

 

Thoughts:

1) Garrett is the better player.  Maxx is an excellent player, but Garrett has been consistently better, but Crosby top output is similar to Garrett's.  Crosby might be able to get back to that higher level on a better team.

 

2) Crosby is 2 years younger

 

3) Crosby should be cheaper asset wise to acquire.  Hopefully this helps Buffalo keep more draft capital to fill other needs.  

 

4) Crosby has a bigger cap hit the next two years according to Spotrac for nearly 53 Million vs Garretts 40 million.  However, Garrett has 4 void years in his deal and Crosby none.  I think Crosby will therefore be easier and cheaper to extend thereby lowering his cap hit this coming year and probably next.

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by GASabresIUFan

[Alphadawg7]

5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

As I see it, they already have so many picks this year that the best thing for them are picks in 2026 and 2027.

 

All they have is an extra 3rd and extra 6th this year...they don't have that much extra capital.  

[3rdand12]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFan said:

I was just looking at the cap hit for Garrett vs Crosby.  Am I wrong for possibly wanting Crosby?

 

Thoughts:

1) Garrett is the better player.  Maxx is an excellent player, but Garrett has been consistently better, but Crosby top output is similar to Garrett's.  Crosby might be able to get back to that higher level on a better team.

 

2) Crosby is 2 years younger

 

3) Crosby should be cheaper asset wise to acquire.  Hopefully this helps Buffalo keep more draft capital to fill other needs.  

 

4) Crosby has a bigger cap hit the next two years according to Spotrac for nearly 53 Million vs Garretts 40 million.  However, Garrett has 4 void years in his deal and Crosby none.  I think Crosby will therefore easier and cheaper to extend thereby lowering his cap hit this coming year and probably next.

 

 

I am still on for Garrett as the top prospect.
 Being dim about financials myself, I just want the best player with the longest potential impact as a Bill.

 Leave the contract to the magic Beanes 🙂

Also Myles is by far , the most outspoken. I don't think it is negotiating through the media either. He truly wants to Win and moving to a contender is the Only way to achieve that

 

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

All they have is an extra 3rd and extra 6th this year...they don't have that much extra capital.  

 

They also will be getting a bunch of 6ths and a 7th in comp picks.

They can use another high round pick, but as we are saying, they will just be burning up rookie contracts while still being bad.

[SoonerBillsFan]

15 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

As I see it, they already have so many picks this year that the best thing for them are picks in 2026 and 2027.

With their cap and how its screwed, how do you get under the cap with all that mess, let alone draft or keep anyone?  I can't wrap my head around how they and N.O. get out of their cap situations. 

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

They also will be getting a bunch of 6ths and a 7th in comp picks.

They can use another high round pick, but as we are saying, they will just be burning up rookie contracts while still being bad.

 

The good news is, you get a chance to see a bunch of young guys and decide who is worthy of a second contract. It’s going to be a while for them to turn this around, but with that owner it may just be a dumpster fire that burns forever. 🤷‍♂️