Myles Garrett requests a trade

[RyanC883]

On 2/6/2025 at 10:19 AM, bills6969 said:

I don’t get the allure with Groot.  He’s very average for a #1 DE.  Would have no issue including him in a deal for Garrett.

 

I would have no problem either, but would rather have him and Garret than AJ and Garret

[Warriorspikes51]

1 hour ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I would have no problem either, but would rather have him and Garret than AJ and Garret

if we trade Greg as part of a deal for a top tier Edge, I would hope we'd also target Sweat or Khalil Mack 

[Sojourner]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

if we trade Greg as part of a deal for a top tier Edge, I would hope we'd also target Sweat or Khalil Mack 

Sweat, after that Super Bowl performance just priced himself into top 5 territory. Not Nick Bosa territory but certainly up there ($24-28m) with Josh Allen, Montez Sweat, Brian Burns and Danielle Hunter. 
 

You either get him or Garrett. There’s not combination realistically imo. Sweat is playing with high level play that’s consistent all across the line so you have to take that into consideration. He’s honestly on the level of Groot maybe a step down. If you put Groot on there I’m sure he’s even statistically better than Sweat has been. 
 

Garrett is the superior player. That money (and draft picks of course) should be allocated to a guy that’s changing the game as much on his own. Never seen that with Sweat. Except for last night. Do you bank that $25m p/y on that performance?

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, Sojourner said:

Sweat, after that Super Bowl performance just priced himself into top 5 territory. Not Nick Bosa territory but certainly up there ($24-28m) with Josh Allen, Montez Sweat, Brian Burns and Danielle Hunter. 
 

You either get him or Garrett. There’s not combination realistically imo. Sweat is playing with high level play that’s consistent all across the line so you have to take that into consideration. He’s honestly on the level of Groot maybe a step down. If you put Groot on there I’m sure he’s even statistically better than Sweat has been. 
 

Garrett is the superior player. That money (and draft picks of course) should be allocated to a guy that’s changing the game as much on his own. Never seen that with Sweat. Except for last night. Do you bank that $25m p/y on that performance?

I'm not paying Sweat for last night no. The Garrett/Crosby option all depends what is it going to cost us in draft capital?

[DapperCam]

9 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

if we trade Greg as part of a deal for a top tier Edge, I would hope we'd also target Sweat or Khalil Mack 

I think trading Groot in a package for Garrett and signing Mack sounds like a pretty good upgrade for us.

[Warriorspikes51]

3 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

I think trading Groot in a package for Garrett and signing Mack sounds like a pretty good upgrade for us.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the Browns will want salary in return, only picks.  Rousseau would be for Maxx IMO 
 

if Von is released, Mack would make a lot of sense 

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, DapperCam said:

I think trading Groot in a package for Garrett and signing Mack sounds like a pretty good upgrade for us.

 

What people are missing here is that is highly unlikely the Browns are trading Garrett and taking back players and salary.  Their cap is a disaster over the disaster that is Watson.  

 

If...and its still a big if given Cleveland has so far said they aren't interested in trading Garrett (although I think they will)...they trade him, its going to be for picks only and for the future.  They aren't gonna try and win games this year...its all about shedding the franchise crushing Watson, taking their cap lumps on the chin, and moving on for a brighter future that Garrett will be on the downside of his career before they could possibly contend again in that loaded division.  

 

Offer this years 1st and next years 1st to Cleveland, and they may just bite.  And with a team this close, you pull that trigger all day long if you are the Bills and take your shot.  We are loaded with extra draft capital and have the fewest glaring holes we have had in the Allen era.  We can make that trade and still have plenty of ammo to do what we need to do in FA, draft, or even another trade for another key available player to shore up other weak spots and even make some nice upgrades.  

 

 

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I could be wrong, but I don't think the Browns will want salary in return, only picks.  Rousseau would be for Maxx IMO 
 

if Von is released, Mack would make a lot of sense 

If we're trading a player for Maxx/Garrett I'd make it A.J. Epenesa

[BADOLBILZ]

11 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Sweat, after that Super Bowl performance just priced himself into top 5 territory. Not Nick Bosa territory but certainly up there ($24-28m) with Josh Allen, Montez Sweat, Brian Burns and Danielle Hunter. 
 

 

 

I'd be shocked if  Sweat got that kind of contract.   You could be right.......it only takes one team to do something stupid.  But he is too inconsistent for that kind of money, IMO.   I figured he'd be more in the Bryce Huff category around $17M and that would align with him signing with Tennessee to play with his 350# little brother on the DL down there.  

5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

If we're trading a player for Maxx/Garrett I'd make it A.J. Epenesa

 

You guys are gonna' kill @BillsFanForever19 .

[TheFunPolice]

Browns GM has come out and said he isn't trading Garrett. 

 

Which means someone better be ready to go nuts with an offer. 

 

It will take 2 1sts plus other premium picks at a minimum. I don't even know if 3 1sts gets it done. 

 

If Beane offered 3 #1 picks tomorrow I think CLE still says no. 

[Sojourner]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I'd be shocked if  Sweat got that kind of contract.   You could be right.......it only takes one team to do something stupid.  But he is too inconsistent for that kind of money, IMO.   I figured he'd be more in the Bryce Huff category around $17M and that would align with him signing with Tennessee to play with his 350# little brother on the DL down there.  

 

You guys are gonna' kill @BillsFanForever19 .

He’s not worth it. No way shape or form but it’s not going to be surprise me. But like you said if that’s what Bryce Huff is making then Harold Landry and Johnathon Greenard are getting just under $20m and Brian Burns & Bradley Chubb $22m+ p/y I’ll bank on someone being foolish enough to pay Sweat. 

[julian]

3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Browns GM has come out and said he isn't trading Garrett. 

 

Which means someone better be ready to go nuts with an offer. 

 

It will take 2 1sts plus other premium picks at a minimum. I don't even know if 3 1sts gets it done. 

 

If Beane offered 3 #1 picks tomorrow I think CLE still says no. 

They would immediately fly Garrett to Buffalo at their own expense with a thank you card and a fruit cake for three 1st round picks.

[TheFunPolice]

Just now, julian said:

They would immediately fly Garrett to Buffalo at their own expense with a thank you card and a fruit cake for three 1st round picks.

 

That's going to be the cost, IMO.

 

In the article I read Barry (the CLE GM) shut down the idea that 2 1sts would do it. Wouldn't even entertain it, and went back to the we aren't trading the player bit. 

 

It could be negotiation tactics too, though. No team ever has the "intention" to trade a star player yet it happens. 

[DapperCam]

14 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

That's going to be the cost, IMO.

 

In the article I read Barry (the CLE GM) shut down the idea that 2 1sts would do it. Wouldn't even entertain it, and went back to the we aren't trading the player bit. 

 

It could be negotiation tactics too, though. No team ever has the "intention" to trade a star player yet it happens. 

GMs are notorious liars. Maybe he isn't happy with two 1st round picks, but if we get to near the draft and he hasn't gotten a better offer that might be "good enough".

[SoTier]

13 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I think fans are taking the wrong lesson from this game. Philly's DL didn't dominate because they had one elite player. They had WAVES of top tier pass rushers accumulated over several years of major draft and FA investments. It's too late for us to build that caliber of DL in one or even two offseasons.

 

Wasn't the Eagles defense a big reason they lost to TB in the Wild Card last year?   Didn't they bring in some significant FAs on defense like Baum and Sweat?

[SoonerBillsFan]

32 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Browns GM has come out and said he isn't trading Garrett. 

 

Which means someone better be ready to go nuts with an offer. 

 

It will take 2 1sts plus other premium picks at a minimum. I don't even know if 3 1sts gets it done. 

 

If Beane offered 3 #1 picks tomorrow I think CLE still says no. 

Then the GM needs to be fired. Its a dumpster fire over there and they need the cap room and Garrett flat said he wants the trade.

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

Browns GM has come out and said he isn't trading Garrett. 

 

Which means someone better be ready to go nuts with an offer. 

 

It will take 2 1sts plus other premium picks at a minimum. I don't even know if 3 1sts gets it done. 

 

If Beane offered 3 #1 picks tomorrow I think CLE still says no. 

 

No offense, noboby is offering 3 first round picks...and zero chance Cleveland says not to 3 first round picks if someone did.  

 

Of course Cle is saying they aren't trading him, they want to drive the price up.  But Cleveland knows they won't be competitive for at least 2 full seasons, and even then, not highly competitive.  The franchise killing Watson deal means they cant even begin to turn the corner for another 2 seasons thanks to cap issues its going to cause by moving on from him.  

 

Garrett will be 31 by then and they will still be in a division with Lamar and Burrow.  

 

Browns are stupid...but I can't imagine they are so stupid that they would pass up on their best chance to reset the table for their future and hold on to a guy that is only going to hurt their rebuild (if he helps them win games when they should be tanking) and be on the downside of his career at the earliest possible time they can become competitive again.  

 

Then again they are the Browns...but I think it is highly likely Garrett gets traded. 

[Allen2Moulds]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

What people are missing here is that is highly unlikely the Browns are trading Garrett and taking back players and salary.  Their cap is a disaster over the disaster that is Watson.  

 

If...and its still a big if given Cleveland has so far said they aren't interested in trading Garrett (although I think they will)...they trade him, its going to be for picks only and for the future.  They aren't gonna try and win games this year...its all about shedding the franchise crushing Watson, taking their cap lumps on the chin, and moving on for a brighter future that Garrett will be on the downside of his career before they could possibly contend again in that loaded division.  

 

Offer this years 1st and next years 1st to Cleveland, and they may just bite.  And with a team this close, you pull that trigger all day long if you are the Bills and take your shot.  We are loaded with extra draft capital and have the fewest glaring holes we have had in the Allen era.  We can make that trade and still have plenty of ammo to do what we need to do in FA, draft, or even another trade for another key available player to shore up other weak spots and even make some nice upgrades.  

 

 

I agree. Add the piece that's hardest to find with Garrett, and fill the other holes through draft/FA. In my opinion, ai only see 4 clear holes, and Garrett fills the biggest one. Not to mention, the domino effect he will have on the rest of the line. 

 

1. Premier pass rusher - trade for Garrett.

2. Get bigger up the middle and find replacement for DQ - preferably draft with a day 2 pick or FA

3. Boundary Receiver with speed - likely have to find them in the draft or via another trade, if you have enough draft capital left. Perfect world, might be a pipe dream, but DK Metcalf.

4. No.2 CB - draft or FA

 

That's my list/order.

[Buffalo716]

49 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Wasn't the Eagles defense a big reason they lost to TB in the Wild Card last year?   Didn't they bring in some significant FAs on defense like Baum and Sweat?

Baum was a one-year $3 million contract 

 

At the time he was considered mid to low level free agent not a significant signing 

 

He outplayed his contract

[ColoradoBills]

48 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Then the GM needs to be fired. Its a dumpster fire over there and they need the cap room and Garrett flat said he wants the trade.

 

It is a mess in Cleveland.  Much more than most on this board realize.  The thing is trading Garrett cost more cap than keeping him.

His hit in $20M and it costs $36M to trade him.  They probably will have to trade him but it's not easy for them to do it.