sven233 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Look.....I get it. We need studs on defense and Garrett would be a great get for the right price. Beane should absolutely be all over it and no trade should be made with any other team without Beane having the final chance to make it happen. That said, I really want Beane to be all over Maxx Crosby as well. Man, every interview the guy does, he basically says that he wants to be a Bill without actually saying it. At least that's what I take out of his interviews! HA! He's a couple years younger and is still one of the best in the league. Either one of these guys would fit in great and would be a great addition to the defense. It really depends on cost, though. The more I hear about a potential package for these guys, especially for the Bills who pick so low, we are talking about having to give up a player in return that is probably going to sting a little. Hopefully we can find a way to grab one of those guys without giving away all of our draft capital because I would love to also find a way to get a WR via trade as well. They would never do it for a lot of reasons, but I would love to get someone like Garrett Wilson (if not him, then someone like him). We need 2 explosive WRs this offseason. I want to get one via trade and possibly another in FA depending on who is out there. I am also wanting to draft one as well. It's time to get Allen some explosive weapons on the outside to go with Shakir in the slot. We have nice depth if we re-sign Hollins. Shakir, Coleman, Hollins, and Samuel are a solid WR3, WR4, WR5 and WR6 but we really need guys that can win on their own and challenge defenses all over the field. Beane has a tough job this offseason for sure. We all saw the way things unfolded this season and while some of us have seen these weaknesses for a while, our shortcomings were on full display in the Playoffs. The lack of pass rush. The lack of a downfield passing game. It all contributed to the end of our season. I mean, it really happened all season. If Allen wasn't playing off script, nothing was happening down the field. I mean, seriously, can you think of one play that happened on schedule 40+ yards down the field within the structure of the play? It got so bad by the Chiefs playoff game that every defender was no more than 15-20 yards off the LOS. They had no respect for any of our WRs and their chances of beating anyone deep. That has to change. And we already know about the issues with the pass rush. It's a lot to solve. I know Beane loves his picks, but it's time to add some known impact players to this team. Quote
3rdand12 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) From PFT today Maxx Crosby: I’ve had doubts in past, but this is the most optimistic I’ve been about Raiders there's more if you take a look My chips are all in for Myles regardless of the challenges But not sure it can be done to be honest Edited 10 hours ago by 3rdand12 1 Quote
SydneyBillsFan Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I just watched the Shout podcast with the Spotrac guy. He basically said that there are teams with QBs on rookie deals and tonnes of cap space that the Bills simply cannot match. We need to accept the reality that we are NOT getting Myles Garrett. He is going to be a Redskin or, gulp...a Patsy. Book it! 1 1 Quote
Returntoglory Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 13 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I just watched the Shout podcast with the Spotrac guy. He basically said that there are teams with QBs on rookie deals and tonnes of cap space that the Bills simply cannot match. We need to accept the reality that we are NOT getting Myles Garrett. He is going to be a Redskin or, gulp...a Patsy. Book it! Ok "Sydney" 1 Quote
Buffalo Ballin Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 19 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I just watched the Shout podcast with the Spotrac guy. He basically said that there are teams with QBs on rookie deals and tonnes of cap space that the Bills simply cannot match. We need to accept the reality that we are NOT getting Myles Garrett. He is going to be a Redskin or, gulp...a Patsy. Book it! Patriots are not contenders,right now, or 3 years from now. Especially in the AFC against us, Chiefs, and Ravens. Myles Garrett will not be a Patriot in this lifetime. Quote
Billz4ever Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 19 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I just watched the Shout podcast with the Spotrac guy. He basically said that there are teams with QBs on rookie deals and tonnes of cap space that the Bills simply cannot match. We need to accept the reality that we are NOT getting Myles Garrett. He is going to be a Redskin or, gulp...a Patsy. Book it! He said he wants to go to a contender and he has a no trade clause. Washington is a possibility. Pats are not. He probably vetoes any trade to a team in rebuild unless he isn't actually serious about trying to win a ring and is just chasing a big contract he doesn't think the Browns would be able to pay given the mess they're in with Watson's contract. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I just watched the Shout podcast with the Spotrac guy. He basically said that there are teams with QBs on rookie deals and tonnes of cap space that the Bills simply cannot match. We need to accept the reality that we are NOT getting Myles Garrett. He is going to be a Redskin or, gulp...a Patsy. Book it! So the Patriots are going to trade the 4th overall pick for a veteran pass rusher when they were just thisclose to being the worst team in the league? I think we have to remember the perspective of the acquiring team. That 4th overall pick is GOLD to them. If they won't give that up........and nobody gives up picks that early for expensive veteran talent of any sort........then the rest of their 2025 draft capital is less than Buffalo can offer. This is why teams like the Russ era Bills get fleeced by Philadelphia in the Jason Peters deal. The parties with the picks that align better are at the back end of round 1. Sure bad teams are interested too........but they don't want to part with pick #5.......and their next pick is usually AFTER the good teams. And then, on top of that, the Pats are going to risk sending 2026 picks as well and hope they don't go 6-11 as their young QB goes thru growing pains? It doesn't make sense at their stage of build. I think Marrone works there now but that doesn't mean they'd try to put the cart before the horse in the same manner that the Marrone Jags did before their incredibly quick ascent and fall. Now Washington makes a lot more sense. But other than picking one spot ahead of the Bills in the draft.......they don't have as much draft capital this year as Buffalo either. And they have more roster holes in general. What they CAN do is absorb money that the Bills would be hard pressed to. But the Browns are in a weird spot. Other than Newsome they don't have salaries that would be a benefit to dispose of. Quote
reddogblitz Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I just watched the Shout podcast with the Spotrac guy. He basically said that there are teams with QBs on rookie deals and tonnes of cap space that the Bills simply cannot match. We need to accept the reality that we are NOT getting Myles Garrett. He is going to be a Redskin or, gulp...a Patsy. Book it! I'm not bookin' squat until the ink is dry. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Ballin said: Patriots are not contenders,right now, or 3 years from now. Especially in the AFC against us, Chiefs, and Ravens. Myles Garrett will not be a Patriot in this lifetime. DHop said he wanted to go to a contender, and then followed the money to Tennessee. That is just something players say when they are trying to push their way out of their current situation. I could totally see Garrett being ok with going to New England because of 1. Money and 2. Vrabel. 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: So the Patriots are going to trade the 4th overall pick for a veteran pass rusher when they were just thisclose to being the worst team in the league? I think we have to remember the perspective of the acquiring team. That 4th overall pick is GOLD to them. Yeah, that is the best thing we have going for us in this race. The Pats pick too high to give up their 1st. Although Im not sure there is a player as good as Garrett at #4 this year. So who knows. I also wonder if the Browns would take the Pats 2025 2nd, 2026 1st, and 2026 2nd... Edited 8 hours ago by DrDawkinstein Quote
GoBills808 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: DHop said he wanted to go to a contender, and then followed the money to Tennessee. That is just something players say when they are trying to push their way out of their current situation. I could totally see Garrett being ok with going to New England because of 1. Money and 2. Vrabel. On 2/3/2025 at 6:36 AM, GoBills808 said: he'll go to the team that offers him the biggest deal like usual Quote
reddogblitz Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, sven233 said: The lack of a downfield passing game. It all contributed to the end of our season. I think this was due more to us trying to sustain long drives so as to keep our defense off the field. Seemed to be our playoff strategy and it almost worked. Quote
klos63 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Buffalo Ballin said: Patriots are not contenders,right now, or 3 years from now. Especially in the AFC against us, Chiefs, and Ravens. Myles Garrett will not be a Patriot in this lifetime. They certainly can be a contender. Maye looks real good, they have cap space, high draft picks... they'll be good, soon, especially if they get Garrett. 1 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Billz4ever said: He said he wants to go to a contender and he has a no trade clause. Washington is a possibility. Pats are not. He probably vetoes any trade to a team in rebuild unless he isn't actually serious about trying to win a ring and is just chasing a big contract he doesn't think the Browns would be able to pay given the mess they're in with Watson's contract. Joe Marino was the one throwing around the no trade clause. Unfortunately it appears to be false information. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said: Joe Marino was the one throwing around the no trade clause. Unfortunately it appears to be false information. He doesnt need a no trade clause. He can just say he will refuse to consider a new contract with that new team and sink the trade deal. No one is going to trade multiple 1sts for a 2 year rental, and Cleveland wants to milk as many high picks out of this as they can. 1 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: He doesnt need a no trade clause. He can just say he will refuse to consider a new contract with that new team and sink the trade deal. No one is going to trade multiple 1sts for a 2 year rental, and Cleveland wants to milk as many high picks out of this as they can. I agree with this, but a no trade clause would've been nice. Quote
Billz4ever Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said: Joe Marino was the one throwing around the no trade clause. Unfortunately it appears to be false information. Someone else was talking about it too. Might have been Orlovsky. Can't remember. Obviously that would have been ideal. Edited 8 hours ago by Billz4ever Quote
NoSaint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 31 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: DHop said he wanted to go to a contender, and then followed the money to Tennessee. That is just something players say when they are trying to push their way out of their current situation. I could totally see Garrett being ok with going to New England because of 1. Money and 2. Vrabel. Yeah, that is the best thing we have going for us in this race. The Pats pick too high to give up their 1st. Although Im not sure there is a player as good as Garrett at #4 this year. So who knows. I also wonder if the Browns would take the Pats 2025 2nd, 2026 1st, and 2026 2nd... I mean, garret is like better than the 4 but is the guy at 4 AND all that free agency money better? Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I mean, garret is like better than the 4 but is the guy at 4 AND all that free agency money better? I get your point, but with $123M in cap space right now, I think they can make it work. New England is such an interesting situation right now. Quote
The Jokeman Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I just watched the Shout podcast with the Spotrac guy. He basically said that there are teams with QBs on rookie deals and tonnes of cap space that the Bills simply cannot match. We need to accept the reality that we are NOT getting Myles Garrett. He is going to be a Redskin or, gulp...a Patsy. Book it! Why would he agree to going to the Pats? He wants a ring. Quote
cle23 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Why would he agree to going to the Pats? He wants a ring. Unless he retires, he can't stop the trade. Quote
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