Myles Garrett requests a trade

[BillsFanForever19]

32 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Sorry bud, but that is not talking about the cap hit to the new team, that is total money paid, but his cap hit to the team is less than $5M for 2025.  To make things easier, here is an article that gives all the details so I don't have to type it all out.   

 

https://www.sbnation.com/2025/2/3/24357841/what-myles-garretts-contract-means-for-his-trade-demand

 

From that very article:

 

"The Browns will need to pay Garrett his large $18.5 million bonus on the fifth day of the league year, which is March 16th. While that would result in his trade value going up considerably, it would really hurt the Browns who are already cap-strapped thanks to the worst contract in NFL history."

 

Translation: That high price tag in compensation for a trade? That's for between now and 3/16. When people talk about the 2 1st's plus, that's now. Not after 3/16.

 

It would go up even MORE if they pay out that 18.5 bonus themselves. Given their current state, they'd move him before then if they trade him. Which is why no one's mentioning a 5m cap hit outside of that article.

Edited 14 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[Alphadawg7]

4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Maybe. But I saw very little opportunity for our pass rush to get home in the AFCCG because Mahomes was getting the ball out in 2 seconds. My take has been and continues to be that it will be on our offense to close out the game. That's how it's gone in our past three KC playoff matchups. Only in one of those did the offense finish the job if not for a bit of horrid coaching. The past two the offense had the ball last and couldn't get it done. So that's where my focus is. Everyone else is trying to change the whole game script. I'm saying the game script is written in stone with KC so you might as well find a way to win within that script. Myles Garrett will be on the sidelines watching with everyone else when Allen throws a fateful pass on 4th down. Will that pass's target be Tee Higgins or Nelson Agholor?

 

Yet the only reason we had a chance to win the game in regulation on the final drive was because of a monster sack to force the FG by Jordan instead of surrendering another TD to go down 7 instead of 3.  

 

No one can tell me that Myles Garrett cant impact one or two other plays turns a scoring drive into a punt...or a TD into a FG.  And sure, at times Mahomes was getting the ball out quickly, but there were a number of chances to get him where he stood back there forever for easy completions or easy runs for first down.  And you don't even have to get to him, you just need him to affect him more to where maybe he throws the ball away, throws an incompletion, makes a poor decision and turns the ball over, etc.  

 

I mean the only teams in forever to beat KC in the postseason (Bucs and Bengals) did so getting to Mahomes and disrupting him.  We absolutely need a difference maker on defense. 

 

And think about it this way...The other team has good players to stop our offense too.  We can't go into the playoffs absolutely needing our offense to be near perfect every game and every big moment.  Chiefs aren't, yet they are playing for their 3rd straight Super Bowl...and why, because Chris Jones closed out games for them, including in Buffalo last year and then again in the Super Bowl to seal the win.  

 

Teams need guys on D who can make plays in big moments, help close out games, help the offense take and hold leads.  

 

We still also need to add to WR, but if we don't do something to improve our Defense, its going to remain that much harder to get by not only the Chiefs, but teams like the Ravens and the tough AFC in general.  

[cle23]

7 hours ago, FireChans said:

I wouldn’t say that.

 

Ed Oliver is quite movable post 6/1 and saves us another $14M.

 

Would I do something like a combo of picks/Ed to make moves for a Garrett AND a DK?

 

Yes.

 

Something like 2025 1st, 2025 2nd and 2026 first for Garrett, and a 2026 2nd, 2026 3rd + Ed for DK?

 

Yup.

 

Trades can't be designated as post June 1. If trading him,  they're is no way Cleveland waits until after June 1. They would do it before the draft at least.  

[Alphadawg7]

12 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

From that very article:

 

"The Browns will need to pay Garrett his large $18.5 million bonus on the fifth day of the league year, which is March 16th. While that would result in his trade value going up considerably, it would really hurt the Browns who are already cap-strapped thanks to the worst contract in NFL history."

 

Translation: That high price tag in compensation for a trade? It would go up even MORE if they pay out that 18.5 bonus themselves. Odds are given their current state, they'd be looking to move him before 3/16 - if they move him at all.

 

No that is an incorrect "translation".  The new team inherits the same contract, meaning they would pay the Bonus and his cap hit is still under $5M.  So no, the Browns don't need to pay the bonus, they could and potentially up his trade value, but they don't have to.  

 

You didn't read the whole article.  I mean it says exactly what a team inherits trading for him contract wise if they make the trade for him before the bonus is paid:

 

"The new team would take on the exact same contract, with $1.255 million is base salary and nearly $18.5 million is paid out in a roster bonus in March. That would make his cap hit less than $5 million for the 2025 season on the new team.  In 2026, it’s set up nearly identically with $1.3 million in base salary and $19 million in roster bonus which would spread out over five years. His cap hit would slightly more than double from $5 million-ish to $11 million-ish thanks to the 2025 proration added onto the 2026 number."

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[njbuff]

Since basically all the coaches and most of the roster will be back………

 

the Bills need to go ALL IN for 2025 and attack their perceived weaknesses.

 

That means they should be aggressive on all fronts (trades, FA, draft) and clog up the holes and go out and win a championship.

 

We thought 2024 was a rebuilding year and they made the AFCCG.

 

Don’t worry about the cap cause Pegula might actually fire McBeane going into a new stadium if they fail in 2025.

 

Point is, put all your chips in the middle of the table for the 2025 season. Screw the future, it will take care of itself if the Bills win the SB in 2025.

[MiracleAtRich1393]

8 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Definitely a guy I’d sell the farm for. You’re almost certainly giving up two 1’s and a starting caliber player. 

One thing going against us tho those 1’s are in the very bottom of the draft. If I’m Cleveland I could probably get better. 

I think he has a no-trade clause, so he could shrink the market to only teams picking near us pretty easily if he wants.

[machine gun kelly]

I’m not one to always want jump the “all in” bandwagon on every possible candidate, but Garrett is worth it.  We haven’t actually been the best with 1st rd choices so what the heck.

[ProcessTruster]

I'd let this fester for a while as Garrett / Browns media conflict followed by hold out may be coming, making the trade perhaps less expensive

[Pete]

Lets trade our last 4 first round picks for Garret

[High Mark]

9 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Still a gross over pay, even with the trade back part of the equation.

Give up less then! But I like the premise, we give up top picks but could still fill out our roster with mid round players.  Looking at the various all-rookie teams, the safeties were 3rd and 4th rounders.  
 

I just spent some time watching MG highlights.  Man he reminds me of BRUUUCCCEEEEEE

[stlbills13]

Great so this is going to take up the rest of my time and attention until August. Sorry wife and kids. I can't talk to you today. Reading my 712th Myles Garrett article 

[colin]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yet the only reason we had a chance to win the game in regulation on the final drive was because of a monster sack to force the FG by Jordan instead of surrendering another TD to go down 7 instead of 3.  

 

No one can tell me that Myles Garrett cant impact one or two other plays turns a scoring drive into a punt...or a TD into a FG.  And sure, at times Mahomes was getting the ball out quickly, but there were a number of chances to get him where he stood back there forever for easy completions or easy runs for first down.  And you don't even have to get to him, you just need him to affect him more to where maybe he throws the ball away, throws an incompletion, makes a poor decision and turns the ball over, etc.  

 

I mean the only teams in forever to beat KC in the postseason (Bucs and Bengals) did so getting to Mahomes and disrupting him.  We absolutely need a difference maker on defense. 

 

And think about it this way...The other team has good players to stop our offense too.  We can't go into the playoffs absolutely needing our offense to be near perfect every game and every big moment.  Chiefs aren't, yet they are playing for their 3rd straight Super Bowl...and why, because Chris Jones closed out games for them, including in Buffalo last year and then again in the Super Bowl to seal the win.  

 

Teams need guys on D who can make plays in big moments, help close out games, help the offense take and hold leads.  

 

We still also need to add to WR, but if we don't do something to improve our Defense, its going to remain that much harder to get by not only the Chiefs, but teams like the Ravens and the tough AFC in general.  

 

I gotta admit, your posts are increasingly convincing me that garrett is the piece to put us over the top.

 

I think you are off on the cap/contract status tho.  If we trade for him he's going to demand a market re setting contract, and we'd give to him.  you have to think it's trading multiple high picks to pay him about 35mm per year.  we paid more than that for knox, milano, elam, and samuel, and they made a difference of more or less 0 wins last season, so i think it's worth it.

[zow2]

Down in DC they are saying the Commanders will make a huge play for Garrett.  And he doesn't have to get through Kansas City on the NFC side.

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

I think he has a no-trade clause, so he could shrink the market to only teams picking near us pretty easily if he wants.

He does not have a “no trade” clause, but he’s also has two seasons left on his contract. If a team acquires him, they’ll want to extend him as part of the transaction. There’s where he has leverage. He can effectively eliminate teams by telling them “no” to an extension. 

[skibum]

It's no so much that I want Beane to trade for Garrett - It's more that I don't want another AFC contender to do it. Fortunately, the NFC probably looks like a clearer path to a SB for him. 

[FireChans]

3 hours ago, cle23 said:

 

Trades can't be designated as post June 1. If trading him,  they're is no way Cleveland waits until after June 1. They would do it before the draft at least.  

You could trade for DK after June. 

[SoTier]

14 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

 

 

13 hours ago, Turbo44 said:

Incorrect / the GM at the time wanted to draft Allen and the owner wanted Mayfield. I’m not googling it but this was well documented 

 

Josh Allen in 2018 would have been a very risky pick -- IMO, too risky -- to be taken #1 overall since he was very raw, a proverbial "project" much like JaMarcus Russell in 2007.  That was especially true in the 2018 draft which had 5 QBs taken in the first round. Consider how many Bills fans considered Allen "the wrong Josh" when the Bills drafted him at #7.   Some GMs might be willing to bet their jobs on a project at #1 overall, but owners aren't so willing to gamble lots of their own money on one, especially when there are better looking prospects available.  If the Browns had been drafting even a spot lower, they could very well have taken Allen.

 

[GASabresIUFan]

Garrett is 29.  He has been in the NFL for 8 seasons and has been a game wrecker on defense.  Had 14 sacks last season.
 

Von had 14.5 sacks at 29, and hasn’t reached double digits since.

 

My question is his much tread is left on the tire?  

 

[Gregg]

Just now, GASabresIUFan said:

Garrett is 29.  He has been in the NFL for 8 seasons and has been a game wrecker on defense.  Had 14 sacks last season.
 

Von had 14.5 sacks at 29, and hasn’t reached double digits since.

 

My question is his much tread is left on the tire?  

 

 

Good question. But the Bills are in win now mode. With this offseason I hope Beane goes all in for 2025. If the Bills can win the Super Bowl in the next year or two then I don't think anyone will mind in Garrett declines. The Bills could go through some losing seasons, and I don't think anyone would be upset if it means winning the Super Bowl in 2025/2026.

[JP51]

1 hour ago, stlbills13 said:

Great so this is going to take up the rest of my time and attention until August. Sorry wife and kids. I can't talk to you today. Reading my 712th Myles Garrett article 

I am pretty sure its not gonna take till august.. it might, but that will really hurt the Browns...