Myles Garrett requests a trade

[transplantbillsfan]

27 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I don't think Beane sees it that way in Brady's offense.  I think he saw the Bills put up four TD's and a FG with the lack of defensive talent being the primary reason we lost.  I think he goes all in on defense and will find a way to trade for a big name difference maker along with a lot of draft picks along the d-line and in the secondary.  The most I see us doing at WR is maybe signing Cooper to a short term deal.

 

Based on the news that Cooper's wrist was a lot worse than we were told, I'd be willing to run our WR corps back another year.  We can also hope Samuel is healthy again.

 

What I would really like to see is Brady tweak his offense to utilize Cook more in the passing game.  Make James Cook the 2020s equivalent of Thurman Thomas in the K Gun.

 

We need a game wrecker on D.

[Cash]

25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

100% of Bills fans should support a Myles Garrett trade at its core. It isn’t, “should the Bills go after Myles Garrett?” That’s not up for debate. The question is, “what would you be willing to pay to get Garrett?”

 

Exactly.  In a vacuum, obviously I would want to add Garrett.  But I think it would be a mistake to get into a huge bidding war or make an offer that absolutely blows Cleveland away.

 

21 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

 

 

That seems fairly reasonable and in line with previous NFL star trades.  Would that level of pricing be worth it for the Bills?  I don't know.  (And neither do you!  No one on Earth thought that the 1st rounder we gave up for Diggs would turn into the league's best WR in year 2.  No regrets on that trade from me, but it shows that you don't know what price you're truly paying until you look in hindsight.)  For me, I'm not actively calling for them to trade for Garrett, but I also won't be mad if it happens.  My rooting interest these days is basically, "I hope whatever they do winds up working out."

 

14 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I don't think Beane sees it that way in Brady's offense.  I think he saw the Bills put up four TD's and a FG with the lack of defensive talent being the primary reason we lost.  I think he goes all in on defense and will find a way to trade for a big name difference maker along with a lot of draft picks along the d-line and in the secondary.  The most I see us doing at WR is maybe signing Cooper to a short term deal.

 

I'm confident that WR is at least somewhat of a priority.  At a minimum, if they can't re-sign Cooper, they'll make it a priority to replace him - whether via FA, trade, or the draft.  The Bills knew that their WR room wasn't good enough last year, hence the trade for Cooper.  Based on the end-of-season presser remarks, I don't think they're counting on Coleman to make a massive leap and be that guy in year 2.  If Coleman/Hollins/Shakir/Samuel wasn't good enough last year, I can't imagine they'll think it's good enough next year.

 

With that said, I don't think they'll do a ton at WR.  The Cooper spot will be filled by someone - possibly Cooper.  Coleman & Shakir will be back, and I expect Hollins will be as well.  I think Samuel is likely gone and they'll try to upgrade that spot in the draft.

[Aussie Joe]

13 minutes ago, BB2004 said:

48.5

Betting my left nut on the over 

[Alphadawg7]

32 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

What are the odds that Crosby is actually available? Was this pure speculation or is there more to it? 

 

speculation is what I gather based on new regime, full rebuild necessary.  I haven't heard anything definitive on Crosby. I would love either of these guys

[High Mark]

Bills give up

2025 1st, 2nd 3rd

2026 1st 2nd

 

Bills Get 

MG

2025 5th 6th

2026 4th 5th 6th

 

(Beane drafts better in the late rounds anyway).

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, High Mark said:

Bills give up

2025 1st, 2nd 3rd

2026 1st 2nd

 

Bills Get 

MG

2025 5th 6th

2026 4th 5th 6th

 

(Beane drafts better in the late rounds anyway).

 

You are joking right?

[Aussie Joe]

27 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Based on the news that Cooper's wrist was a lot worse than we were told, I'd be willing to run our WR corps back another year. 

Cooper looked slow … not sure the wrist can be used as an excuse for that ….they also said last week that they asked him to get surgery and he said no..is the problem fixed now ? We don’t know…

 

Might be time to look elsewhere and hope to upgrade 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Aussie Joe

[Rocky Landing]

I don't like the guy.

[BillsFanForever19]

7 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

There is no excuse not to go get him now.

 

There is no excuse to not make the call. But no excuse to go get him? 

 

The cost of what it would take to get him would be substantial. And not just with what it would take to acquire him but with what it would take to get him under contract.

 

It would cost us Draft Picks that are under cheap Rookie contracts, probably a player that is important to our success, and then a large amount of cap space - hindering us from signing players that will improve the team and re-signing players important to our success.

 

The last time we did a Trade close to this magnitude was for Stefon Diggs. And without even getting into players his contract may have cost us, just in Draft Compensation - it cost us Justin Jefferson. Bad luck? Sure. But when you give up Picks, you never know who you'll miss out on when you give away lottery tickets.

 

Looking at what we need to do to this offseason, we need to do a lot more than just improving the Pass Rush. We greatly need to improve the WR core. We only have Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, and Curtis Samuel under contract. We need to find a Starting CB opposite Christian Benford. We need to get a starting Safety opposite Taylor Rapp or start Cole Bishop and hope he improves in Year 2. At DT, we only have Ed Oliver, Daquan Jones, and Dewayne Carter under contract. And Daquan Jones is completely toast, so we need a Starter plus 2 Rotational DT's. Acquiring Garrett would make doing this somewhere between extremely difficult and impossible.

 

Then there's the fact that after this offseason, we have all of Christian Benford, Greg Rousseau, Khalil Shakir, James Cook, and Terrel Bernard as Free Agents. A Myles Garrett contract would make retaining a lot of them harder. In the case of Rousseau, you aren't re-signing him to the type of contract he's going to command if you're paying Garrett. So you might as well include him in the trade.

 

All this to say, there's no reason to not make the call. But there's PLENTY of "excuses" to not pull the trigger. 

Edited 2 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[PigSkinTim]

Hey there boys, to me this is like trading for a Lombardi trophy.  Simple as that eh? 

[GolfandBills]

31 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Based on the news that Cooper's wrist was a lot worse than we were told, I'd be willing to run our WR corps back another year.  We can also hope Samuel is healthy again.

 

What I would really like to see is Brady tweak his offense to utilize Cook more in the passing game.  Make James Cook the 2020s equivalent of Thurman Thomas in the K Gun.

 

We need a game wrecker on D.

We need more speed especially on the outside.  Hopefully they don’t pay Cooper the 15 million a year he’s projected at 

[Doc Brown]

I feel bad for Browns fans man.  Imagine if they drafted Allen over Mayfield.  No Watson deal.  Superb defense for most of the last half decade.  They'd pry have a Super Bowl by now.  Now they're losing arguably the best defensive player in the NFL.

[High Mark]

8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

You are joking right?

Not really.  Elam was drafted in the first.  Benford in the 6th.  Beane has a better track record in the later rounds, and my trade proposal we don’t “lose” any picks, just trade back 

[Aussie Joe]

7 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

There is no excuse to make the call. But no excuse to go get him? 

 

The cost of what it would take to get him would be substantial. And not just with what it would take to acquire him but with what it would take to get him under contract.

 

It would cost us Draft Picks that are under cheap Rookie contracts, probably a player that is important to our success, and then a large amount of cap space - hindering us from signing players that will improve the team and re-signing players important to our success.

 

The last time we did a Trade close to this magnitude was for Stefon Diggs. And without even getting into players his contract may have cost us, just in Draft Compensation - it cost us Justin Jefferson. Bad luck? Sure. But when you give up Picks, you never know who you'll miss out on when you give away lottery tickets.

 

Looking at what we need to do to this offseason, we need to do a lot more than just improving the Pass Rush. We greatly need to improve the WR core. We only have Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, and Curtis Samuel under contract. We need to find a Starting CB opposite Christian Benford. We need to get a starting Safety opposite Taylor Rapp or start Cole Bishop and hope he improves in Year 2. At DT, we only have Ed Oliver, Daquan Jones, and Dewayne Carter under contract. And Daquan Jones is completely toast, so we need a Starter plus 2 Rotational DT's. Acquiring Garrett would make doing this somewhere between extremely difficult and impossible.

 

Then there's the fact that after this offseason, we have all of Christian Benford, Greg Rousseau, Khalil Shakir, James Cook, and Terrel Bernard as Free Agents. A Myles Garrett contract would make retaining a lot of them harder. In the case of Rousseau, you aren't re-signing him to the type of contract he's going to command if you're paying Garrett. So you might as well include him in the trade.

 

All this to say, there's no reason to not make the call. But there's PLENTY of "excuses" to not pull the trigger. 

Until we know what the cost is … it’s difficult  to worry too much about “what they are giving up” …. 
 

I wouldn’t want to pay both Garrett and Rousseau … so perhaps Rousseau can be included in the deal  ? 

Edited 3 hours ago by Aussie Joe

[Augie]

6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Until we know what the cost is … it’s difficult  to worry too much about “what they are giving up” …. 
 

I wouldn’t want to pay both Garrett and Rousseau … so perhaps Rousseau can be included in the deal  ? 

 

Good points, and why I won’t get worked up about this. I’m excited to see what happens, but I won’t be mad if “my thing” doesn’t come to be.

 

I was not sold on Josh based upon about one quarter of college play that I caught. He one-hopped a bubble screen to a WR and that took me a while to get over. So what the hell do I know? 😂 

[Steptide]

Unpopular take - forget myles garret and hire a legit defensive coordinator, then maybe get myles garret 

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, Augie said:

 

Good points, and why I won’t get worked up about this. I’m excited to see what happens, but I won’t be mad if “my thing” doesn’t come to be.

 

I was not sold on Josh based upon about one quarter of college play that I caught. He one-hopped a bubble screen to a WR and that took me a while to get over. So what the hell do I know? 😂 

Yeah …I’m not going to be mad either … what can I do about it 😂? … whatever they do I’ll hope for the best … but I wouldn’t hate if they bring in a Crosby or Garrett … got to take a couple of swings to help try and get over the hump …, and there is always going to be holes somewhere on the roster …

 

 

[Negan]

Our picks stink in the first round, might as well get some proven talent instead of wasting it on busts.

[ProcessTruster]

6 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:

Ok, what’s the over/under on the page count this thread gets to?

648

[Orlando Buffalo]

I will state outright I don't want him at what I assume he costs, which is multiple ones. If we can trade him for a 1st and a 3rd I do it obviously. With that said I would much rather had a Dexter Lawrence to destroy the middle.