Myles Garrett requests a trade

[US Egg]

Dammit! Cannot believe Beane hasn’t gotten this done already!

[JP51]

2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

This is going to reach 200 pages.  I can feel it.

unless the trade happens first LOL 

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

 

I agree, keep Rousseau, and also draft the long-term replacement for across from Garrett.  Kyle Kennard from S. Carolina is an interesting option who should be there in Rd. 2 or 3, same with Braydon Swinson from LSU.    

I believe that Solomon will be a situational pass rusher for a long time. 

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Is Dallas a SB contender?    With Philly and Washington in their division?   If Garrett saw it that way I'd be surprised.   Again,  Garrett will have some say.   I'm sure he'd prefer go to KC or Philly but I doubt those two will be in on trading a #1 plus for him.   Philly is always a wildcard though and they could offer player talent in addition to their late pick.   

Dallas had a pretty bad year but they are hardly a bottom-feeder and I think Garrett is from Texas…it’s still a glamor franchise.

[RyanC883]

come on Bean, its been at least 2 hours! 

[ExWNYer]

7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You could keep Rousseau for a year. You can’t re-sign him so you can play for the comp pick if that’s the route that you want to go. Either way, you’re going to have to find someone to play long term across from Garrett. 

 

Yeah, if their play is to keep Rousseau for a year with Garrett, knowing that they won't be able to re-sign him, they'd better be willing to push their chips into the middle of the table and get to the Super Bowl in that one year window. Rousseau may have to be part of the compensation package if Cleveland is looking for a young player to slot into the lineup in Garrett's absence.

[since79]

Wasn't Bruce mentoring him when he came in the league.  Maybe Bruce can put in a good word.  

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by since79

[MikePJ76]

I would offer a 2 this year and a 2 and a 3 next year.  
 

first round picks have to be untouchable and they need at least one of the 2nd round picks this year since they sent the 3 to Cleveland for cooper (still a big mistake imo)

 

pair Garrett with groot, Oliver, Carter and a 1st round draft pick and everything in the defense gets better.

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

Yeah, if their play is to keep Rousseau for a year with Garrett, knowing that they won't be able to re-sign him, they'd better be willing to push their chips into the middle of the table and get to the Super Bowl in that one year window. Rousseau may have to be part of the compensation package if Cleveland is looking for a young player to slot into the lineup in Garrett's absence.

Yep, it just makes too much sense. I’ve been banging that drum for a while. Rousseau is a pretty good player but you can’t pay him as an alpha and get someone better at the same time.

[BarleyNY]

16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I agree. Did you see Rusini’s post? It’s in line with this. 

I did. It’s funny. I had just gotten a note on that from a sportswriter I’m in touch with. He talked to a league exec and asked what the trade value for Garrett is. The exec’s reply was 3 ones or 2 ones and ascending player. We will have to wait and see if he’s traded, and if so, what he nets. I think two ones plus gets you in the conversation. I have no doubt that multiple teams picking late in the first this year would pay that. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

21 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

I would offer a 2 this year and a 2 and a 3 next year.  
 

first round picks have to be untouchable and they need at least one of the 2nd round picks this year since they sent the 3 to Cleveland for cooper (still a big mistake imo)

 

pair Garrett with groot, Oliver, Carter and a 1st round draft pick and everything in the defense gets better.

He is worth two first round picks

 

The problem is that may not be enough because we draft so late in the first round.  

 

I'd give up 2025 and 2026 First round picks plus I'd offer to swap the Minnesota 2nd for the Browns 3rd pick.  Maybe that would be enough.

Edited 6 hours ago by Ethan in Cleveland

[Alphadawg7]

58 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah these GM's value those picks.   Ain't anybody trading 3 #1's.   Or 2 #1's and Groot.   Garrett has effectively narrowed the market and reduced Cleveland's leverage in trade by reducing the field to a few teams at the back end of round 1:

 

Detroit (28)

Washington (29)

Buffalo (30)

 

So comes down to how desperate Detroit and Washington are........and where Garrett wants to go.

 

 

 

Totally agree...so many people around here always think some massive haul is coming in a trade then never happens.  Nobody is giving up what a lot of people here think it will take to get him.  A first and change is likely going to get the deal done.  1st and 3rd may be enough.  

 

However, as a team as close to a SB as the Buffalo Bills, I wouldn't mess around personally.  With how late we pick, I would be fine sending our first this year and next year to insure we get a real difference maker.  I would feel better about that then trusting we will draft a real difference maker at any position with those picks.  Especially given Garetts cap hit this season is just $5M.  If Beane can get him cheaper, then even better, but I wouldn't risk getting out bid, especially by another contender because at that cap hit there will be a lot of teams who can afford him.

 

With such a low cap hit, Bills could still be active in FA or even remain active in the trade market.  If we could land Garrett at just $5M this year and then go make a play in FA or the trade market to get a WR like Higgins or Metcalf...we would be instant SB favorites next season.  Then address S and CB in FA and Draft and this team would be very scary next season.  

 

When you are this close, especially as a team whose never gotten the job done, you start thinking about more short term all in moves.  Chiefs and Ravens aren't going anywhere and the AFC overall is going to be tough for a while.  Shoot your shot now Beane...guys like Garret are rare, go do for the defense what you did for the offense when you went and got Diggs at a time the offense sorely needed that kind of infusion.  

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

Some people here act like all picks within a round are the same. It’s not like we’re picking 10th. We’d be offering picks 30, 56 (or 62) and Rousseau. I don’t see how that is a serious offer for Myles Garrett.

 

Teams always seem to get much less in return than what a superstar can bring their new team if they play their best.   Josh Allen is worth more than a decade of #1 picks but you'd be lucky to get more than 2 and some change for him if he demanded a trade to a different contender.   Herschell Walker type trades don't happen any longer.

[MikePJ76]

5 minutes ago, mannc said:

Dallas had a pretty bad year but they are hardly a bottom-feeder and I think Garrett is from Texas…it’s still a glamor franchise.

He is not just from Texas.  He grew up in Arlington and went to Martin high.  A few minutes from AT&T stadium.  Then he went to Texas A&M.

 

Channel 11 cbs, here in DFW, the cowboys official channel has a live draft party the day he was drafted.

 

i have to imagine it is his preferred destination.  Lining up across from parsons and playing in a nice warm dome.

 

its currently 80 degrees here today.

[Goin Breakdown]

300 pages....here we come!!!

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

I did. It’s funny. I had just gotten a note on that from a sportswriter I’m in touch with. He talked to a league exec and asked what the trade value for Garrett is. The exec’s reply was 3 ones or 2 ones and ascending player. We will have to wait and see if he’s traded, and if so, what he nets. I think two ones plus gets you in the conversation. I have no doubt that multiple teams picking late in the first this year would pay that. 

We will see I guess. It’s really common to “hear” the price in a trade and then see what actually happens.

[SoTier]

11 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

Mario Williams has never been the caliber of player that Myles Garrett is. Myles Garett is closer to Reggie White, than Mario Williams is to Myles Garrett.

 

Agree.   Moreover, the current Bills are at a level where Garrett would definitely upgrade their defense. 

 

The Bills teams run by Russ Brandon were never, ever run with the primary goal of winning football games.  They had minimal talent on both sides of the ball.  The Bills signed Mario Williams in 2012 to put butts in the seats just like they brought in Terrell Owens in 2009.  The 2009 team was completely bereft of talent thanks to Brandon and Dick Jauron.  The 2012 team was better but still well below average on talent.

 

[MikePJ76]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

He is worth two first round picks

 

The problem is that may not be enough because we draft so late in the first round.  

 

I'd give up 2025 and 2025 First round picks plus I'd offer to swap the Minnesota 2nd for the Browns 3rd pick.  Maybe that would be enough.

Yea he is a great player but I am not giving up multiple 1’s for anybody at this point.  
 

they need those 5 year contracts to allow them to do anything in free agency in the future.   
 

myles Garrett alone doesn’t get you over the hump of KC and more realistically the really difficult afc again next year.

[kota]

Myles Garrett will want a boat load of money in the same realm of what Von MIller got.  Miller's contract has hampered us a bit and they need to pay Josh.

i like Garrett but can any DE in the league produce 10 sacks in this defense?  The Bills don't blitz alot.  How many of Garretts sacks come from blitz vs. standard 4 man rush?

[NewEra]

18 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Is Dallas a SB contender?    With Philly and Washington in their division?   If Garrett saw it that way I'd be surprised.   Again,  Garrett will have some say.   I'm sure he'd prefer go to KC or Philly but I doubt those two will be in on trading a #1 plus for him.   Philly is always a wildcard though and they could offer player talent in addition to their late pick.   

For sure-  I expect them to be a player for sure.   Howie doesn’t eff around