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6 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

If this is the asking price, Buffalo should make a serious bid

I was going to say Dianna is pretty well connected if this is the asking price Beane should be demoted for not picking up the phone and offering this 

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The dude does have some gas in the tank and he can still play..........it's not like we're the Cards of the late 90's and early 2000's, where players went to have their careers die peacefully.

 

We are a legit contender, so if it's feasible, then i say bring him in.

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Just now, Low Positive said:

We just lost by 3 in a game where if Josh Allen could have gotten a half-yard to take it out of the hands of the refs we probably would have won. The Bills are not even a player away. They are a play away. 

I agree, but that play doesn’t involve a guy like Myles Garrett at all. That’s why I don’t like giving up first round draft picks for defensive players. Where have Hutchinson, Hendrickson, Micah Parsons and Crosby gotten their teams? I need someone to sell me on the value of game changing defensive players in today’s offense oriented league. 

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3 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

Doesn't he want to go to a contender? I guess it depends if the Browns will fulfill his request of being traded to a contender.

That’s fair. There are some up and coming teams that pick earlier, but you are correct that most will be at the end of the round. 

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1 minute ago, SirAndrew said:

That might be true, I just struggle with giving up draft choices. We seem more than one player away. We don’t even have a number one receiver at this point, and how much would Garrett benefit us? If KC is down to one last drive in another AFCCG, is McD going to bring pressure, or does Garrett drop into coverage? I don’t trust our system enough to be content with losing draft picks. 

 

I tend to respectfully disagree on every point.

 

We just took the KC dynasty team to the last play of the AFC Champ game. We could very easily be 1 player away. Especially if that player is a stud Defensive End.

 

KC's defense made 4.5 stops.

Buffalo's defense made 3.5, with not a single real stop the entire first half.

 

One more forced punt and we win that game comfortably.

It has been the Defense that has caused us every playoff loss.

 

For all the flack I give McD, I havent seen him drop our DEs much, and wouldnt be too concerned there. When push comes to shove, Garrett is getting after the QB.

 

As far as draft picks go, I dont see many openings for rookies to come in and start right away anywhere on the team, expect maybe DL.

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I'm fine with sending them a pile of premium draft picks.

How much impact have 1st rounders Kaiir Elam, Greg Rousseau, and Dalton Kincaid collectively had on our roster the past few years anyway?

Edge rusher is one of those impact positions -- and Garrett is one of those rare players impactful enough AT that position -- that you give up the draft picks necessary to acquire him if you can.

 

Would transform the defense. Would be the biggest possible swing you could take toward maximizing Josh Allen's physical prime.

Do it. I don't care if it's expensive.

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1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

Well I would absolutely love it, we pretty much wouldn't have a draft for about 2 years to make it happen.

Price could go down if Garrett tells the browns to get it done or he's not playing 

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Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I tend to respectfully disagree on every point.

 

We just took the KC dynasty team to the last play of the AFC Champ game. We could very easily be 1 player away. Especially if that player is a stud Defensive End.

 

KC's defense made 4.5 stops.

Buffalo's defense made 3.5, with not a single real stop the entire first half.

 

One more forced punt and we win that game comfortably.

It has been the Defense that has caused us every playoff loss.

 

For all the flack I give McD, I havent seen him drop our DEs much, and wouldnt be too concerned there. When push comes to shove, Garrett is getting after the QB.

 

As far as draft picks go, I dont see many openings for rookies to come in and start right away anywhere on the team, expect maybe DL.

I wouldn’t be upset if we got Garrett. I’d love to see him come here and perform phenomenally. It would help put an end to excuses for not slowing down KC.  I do worry about Mahomes’ and Reid’s ability to neutralize a player like Garrett. We’ve seen guys like Bosa and Hutchinson neutralized by great offensive coaches. The offense beyond Cook is concerning as well, and we could easily see production decrease next season if resources aren’t spent there as well. 

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1 hour ago, ALLinALLEN said:

Do we care he's 30? seems old no?

Here is some context or career comparisons to Bruce Smith 1st 8 seasons

 

Sacks

Myles = 102

Bruce = 92

 

Bruce managed to rack up another 108 sacks over 10 more year playing until 40. 

 

Myles ???  Technically on pace to Break his record. 

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55 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

If he is traded, he is going to get a new contract with it.  He is "underpaid" with his current contract at this point.

While it’s very likely he gets a new deal it’s not 100%.  The point still remains that an extension would most likely lower his cap hit to start. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, RkFast said:

 

This is where Joshua Patrick Allen should step up and say "skip the contract re-do...get me more help."


He can’t skip the contract redo and get more help. We need the extension to kick his cap number down the road. The bill has barely come due on his first extension. To date his cap number hasn’t eclipsed $30M. We can’t take a $65M cap number in 26/27. Even relief on his $43M number next year would be helpful. 

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