Myles Garrett requests a trade

[thenorthremembers]

2 hours ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:

I really don’t care what it takes.  He’s a generational talent who is an athletic freak. I’d sell the future for him.

 

Agree.  The future is now.  Who knows if we ever get another QB like Allen.  Need to do everything we can to win it now.

[TBBills Fan]

15 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Agree.  The future is now.  Who knows if we ever get another QB like Allen.  Need to do everything we can to win it now.

I agree with this as well.  Do what you gotta someone is gonna get him.  Beane gonna earn his poker money with this entire thing

[YattaOkasan]

14 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Abdul Carter? How is that "totally doable"?

 

He's going Top 5. Even if his needing surgery wasn't recanted as it was - it would be a 2 month recovery. Nothing that's dropping him from where he was to anywhere where we could trade up to.

 

And even if we could get a team to drop down to where we are from the range in which Carter will be Drafted (which almost never happens) - it would require picks in this year's Draft and coming Drafts, which we'll need to spend to get Garrett.

Original post was about the Eagles.  It is doable to have Jalen Carter and Garret on the same line.  

[BarleyNY]

16 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

Imagine Carter and Garrett on the same DL....

 

Totally doable contract wise for 3-4 years too, with one guy paid and the other on a rookie deal. 

That’s a very real possibility. Seems like the Browns will take Ward or Carter if they don’t trade down (which I don’t see happening). It would be very sustainable for the remainder of Garrett’s career. Even if Carter hits big his cap numbers would be reasonable for 5-6 years. Garrett’s prime career years would be done by then. It’s exactly how you would want to do it. 

[BuffaloRebound]

I’d love to get Garrett, but there are a lot of barriers to it happening so I’ll convince myself to be happy bringing in a good safety like Moehrig and maybe take a chance on some vets like Jaire Alexander and Bosa then trade up for a freak athlete on the front 7 like one of the Michigan DT’s, the Oregon DT or Jihad Campbell.  

Edited Tuesday at 04:06 PM by BuffaloRebound

[Homelander]

We can’t afford to squander Josh Allen’s talent any longer.

 

Passing on Myles Garrett? That’s pure madness.

 

Winning it all requires going all in and making game-changing moves. Just look at the Eagles - they landed Barkley and walked away with the Super Bowl.

 

It’s (beyond) time for the Bills to pull out all the stops.

[TheFunPolice]

18 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Abdul Carter? How is that "totally doable"?

 

He's going Top 5. Even if his needing surgery wasn't recanted as it was - it would be a 2 month recovery. Nothing that's dropping him from where he was to anywhere where we could trade up to.

 

And even if we could get a team to drop down to where we are from the range in which Carter will be Drafted (which almost never happens) - it would require picks in this year's Draft and coming Drafts, which we'll need to spend to get Garrett.

 

Browns drafting Carter and keeping Garrett. 

[Orlando Buffalo]

20 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Agree.  The future is now.  Who knows if we ever get another QB like Allen.  Need to do everything we can to win it now.

I can say with good certainty that the Bills will never have another QB like Josh, so the Bills entire window might be the next 10 years, so I think we have to do it.

[GolfandBills]

I think he’ll end up with Detroit.  They were trying hard to get him at the trade deadline last season.   

[finn]

5 hours ago, GolfandBills said:

I think he’ll end up with Detroit.  They were trying hard to get him at the trade deadline last season.   

I'm in the minority here. The draft is absolutely stacked at defensive line, and Beane could find two quality starters and still have his second second-round pick to choose a quality cornerback. Sign Slayton or Brown, spend the rest of your picks on depth, especially at safety, and the Bills return faster, younger, and deeper, well positioned for the rest of the Allen era, with all future picks in hand and in a good position to extend Cook, Benford, and Rousseau. 

 

The last time the draft and the Bills needs aligned so perfectly, Beane traded is first and fourth for Diggs, leaving Justin Jefferson, Brandon Aiyuk, and Tee Higgins on the board. Diggs was great for awhile, but he disappeared in the playoffs, played the diva, declined quickly, and ended up forcing Beane to eat his huge salary. Von Miller was his second huge risk, and that blew up in his face even worse. 

 

Beane brags about not being afraid to swing for the fences, but when he does, he falls on his face. My hope is that the Browns will ask too much even for Beane, and some other team will take the bait. 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

7 minutes ago, finn said:

I'm in the minority here. The draft is absolutely stacked at defensive line, and Beane could find two quality starters and still have his second second-round pick to choose a quality cornerback. Sign Slayton or Brown, spend the rest of your picks on depth, especially at safety, and the Bills return faster, younger, and deeper, well positioned for the rest of the Allen era, with all future picks in hand and in a good position to extend Cook, Benford, and Rousseau. 

 

The last time the draft and the Bills needs aligned so perfectly, Beane traded is first and fourth for Diggs, leaving Justin Jefferson, Brandon Aiyuk, and Tee Higgins on the board. Diggs was great for awhile, but he disappeared in the playoffs, played the diva, declined quickly, and ended up forcing Beane to eat his huge salary. Von Miller was his second huge risk, and that blew up in his face even worse. 

 

Beane brags about not being afraid to swing for the fences, but when he does, he falls on his face. My hope is that the Browns will ask too much even for Beane, and some other team will take the bait. 

 

Oh man, I couldn’t disagree more. The Bills don’t need to get younger or deeper. They need to get better at the top of the roster. The best defensive player in the world is available. He’s 29. He plays the biggest position of need. This is an absolute no brainer and I’m not sure that there’s a cost that should be considered too high. 
 

On the Diggs thing, he gave the Bills the greatest 4 year receiving stretch in franchise history. He was a superstar. He gave them more than they would have gotten from the guys you named sans Jefferson. He had character concerns. Garrett is an extremely high character guy (Rudolph incident aside). He’s incredibly charitable and in his prime. You never trade a dollar for 4 quarters in sports. You trade those 4 quarters for a dollar anytime that you can. 
 

In terms of Von, he was like 33 coming off his 2nd Super Bowl and had an injury history. He was playing well until he got hurt. Garrett, again, is 29, coming from the worst franchise in sports. Can you fathom how motivated he would be to play for a contender?!? He’s never tasted it. He’s been healthy. He’s in his prime. Apples and oranges to the Miller signing (which was the right move at the time). 

[Don Otreply]

I have only my opinion concerning this potential trade, and I would be stunned if Beane pulls this off, I would certainly be good with getting him, just don’t think it’s gonna happen, as said up thread, the future is now…, 

[Andrew Son]

13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Oh man, I couldn’t disagree more. The Bills don’t need to get younger or deeper. They need to get better at the top of the roster. The best defensive player in the world is available. He’s 29. He plays the biggest position of need. This is an absolute no brainer and I’m not sure that there’s a cost that should be considered too high. 
 

On the Diggs thing, he gave the Bills the greatest 4 year receiving stretch in franchise history. He was a superstar. He gave them more than they would have gotten from the guys you named sans Jefferson. He had character concerns. Garrett is an extremely high character guy (Rudolph incident aside). He’s incredibly charitable and in his prime. You never trade a dollar for 4 quarters in sports. You trade those 4 quarters for a dollar anytime that you can. 
 

In terms of Von, he was like 33 coming off his 2nd Super Bowl and had an injury history. He was playing well until he got hurt. Garrett, again, is 29, coming from the worst franchise in sports. Can you fathom how motivated he would be to play for a contender?!? He’s never tasted it. He’s been healthy. He’s in his prime. Apples and oranges to the Miller signing (which was the right move at the time). 

When you look at most of these teams with sustained success it is because they have cost controlled impactful talent that gives them an advantage.

 

Look at the eagles.   Beyond incredible value from Baun.  Nearly the same from Becton.  Then you have all the rookie deals: Carter, Davis, Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell, DeJean...

 

KC had a similar advantage with the interior of their offensive line until they had to pay Humphrey and now Smith.

 

While it's exciting for fans, I don't believe it is the best route for team building to give up our best chances to acquire cost controlled difference makers for an aging star at a huge salary.

[Maynard]

On 3/3/2025 at 4:17 PM, thenorthremembers said:

 

Agree.  The future is now.  Who knows if we ever get another QB like Allen.  Need to do everything we can to win it now.

Yup! Hard to fathom that we would find another QB of Allen’s caliber for a long, long time. The time is now.

[BarleyNY]

28 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Oh man, I couldn’t disagree more. The Bills don’t need to get younger or deeper. They need to get better at the top of the roster. The best defensive player in the world is available. He’s 29. He plays the biggest position of need. This is an absolute no brainer and I’m not sure that there’s a cost that should be considered too high. 
 

On the Diggs thing, he gave the Bills the greatest 4 year receiving stretch in franchise history. He was a superstar. He gave them more than they would have gotten from the guys you named sans Jefferson. He had character concerns. Garrett is an extremely high character guy (Rudolph incident aside). He’s incredibly charitable and in his prime. You never trade a dollar for 4 quarters in sports. You trade those 4 quarters for a dollar anytime that you can. 
 

In terms of Von, he was like 33 coming off his 2nd Super Bowl and had an injury history. He was playing well until he got hurt. Garrett, again, is 29, coming from the worst franchise in sports. Can you fathom how motivated he would be to play for a contender?!? He’s never tasted it. He’s been healthy. He’s in his prime. Apples and oranges to the Miller signing (which was the right move at the time). 

 

I agree with everything here with one caveat - I do not believe that Garrett is actually available. If he is or becomes so, then I’d love for the Bills to go balls to the wall to get him. He’d be transformative for the this defense and team. 

[Maynard]

5 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

When you look at most of these teams with sustained success it is because they have cost controlled impactful talent that gives them an advantage.

 

Look at the eagles.   Beyond incredible value from Baun.  Nearly the same from Becton.  Then you have all the rookie deals: Carter, Davis, Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell, DeJean...

 

KC had a similar advantage with the interior of their offensive line until they had to pay Humphrey and now Smith.

 

While it's exciting for fans, I don't believe it is the best route for team building to give up our best chances to acquire cost controlled difference makers for an aging star at a huge salary.

Do you think the Eagles would let us borrow Howie to run our drafts? 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, Andrew Son said:

When you look at most of these teams with sustained success it is because they have cost controlled impactful talent that gives them an advantage.

 

Look at the eagles.   Beyond incredible value from Baun.  Nearly the same from Becton.  Then you have all the rookie deals: Carter, Davis, Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell, DeJean...

 

KC had a similar advantage with the interior of their offensive line until they had to pay Humphrey and now Smith.

 

While it's exciting for fans, I don't believe it is the best route for team building to give up our best chances to acquire cost controlled difference makers for an aging star at a huge salary.

It’s because they have elite talent!! They have a top 5ish QB. The best RB in football. They have arguably the best OL in football. They have a top 5 WR and a top 12 WR. They have an elite DL. They have high end secondary talent and bought a former 1st round bust that broke out. It isn’t about cost!! It’s about talent. The Eagles have 7 or 8 of the 100 best players in football. The Bills have 2.

[TheFunPolice]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

 

I agree with everything here with one caveat - I do not believe that Garrett is actually available. If he is or becomes so, then I’d love for the Bills to go balls to the wall to get him. He’d be transformative for the this defense and team. 

 

This is the issue.

 

Assuming Garrett is 100% determined to get out of CLE he will. The Browns should realize that, and start the auction now while every team in the league could be in a spot to bid with picks and money. Someone will get stupid. 

 

What will probably happen is the Browns get prideful and decide to show the player who is boss, dig in, have a holdout, and trade him midseason for much less than they would get now. 

 

IMO the most likely scenario is the Browns tell him they want to draft Carter, he waits to see if that happens, then they make Garrett the highest paid DL in league history. Browns are so screwed cap wise they might not be literally able to trade him. 

 

OR the price could be: take Watson or there's no deal. 

 

Edited Wednesday at 03:03 PM by TheFunPolice

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

 

I agree with everything here with one caveat - I do not believe that Garrett is actually available. If he is or becomes so, then I’d love for the Bills to go balls to the wall to get him. He’d be transformative for the this defense and team. 

That may be the case. I don’t think that the Browns have a choice but to deal him. If they become the organization that plays hardball, with one of the best players they’ve ever had, they will never be able to get talent again. Agents and players will steer clear. If he sticks to his guns on not negotiating an extension with them, they are really in trouble. They are caught between a rock and a hard place. If they can’t convince him to back off of that position they have to trade him. 

2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

This is the issue.

 

Assuming Garrett is 100% determined to get out of CLE he will. The Browns should realize that, and start the auction now while every team in the league could be in a spot to bid with picks and money. Someone will get stupid. 

 

What will probably happen is the Browns get prideful and decide to show the player who is boss, dig in, have a holdout, and trade him midseason for much less than they would get now. 

 

IMO the most likely scenario is the Browns tell him they want to draft Carter, he waits to see if that happens, then they make Garrett the highest paid DL in league history. Browns are so screwed cap wise they might not be literally able to trade him. 

 

OR the price could be: take Watson or there's no deal. 

 

That’s such an interesting thought. It certainly limits the market but may give them the full reset. If that’s the case, they should try to get Ward (although they may have to trade up to do it). I’m not sure he’s perfect but you, in theory, shouldn’t get many chances to pick that high. You hope he becomes a franchise guy. You will have the other assets that you acquired for Garrett (and Watson) and can clean your books up. You could have draft capital, a franchise QB on a rookie deal and boatloads of cap space. It’s like the Patriots model on steroids.

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, Maynard said:

Do you think the Eagles would let us borrow Howie to run our drafts? 

I’d take that or Jeffrey Lurie’s unlimited willingness to spend. They don’t care about the cap at all. They are the new model. Build an elite team and pay every great player that you can (they are co-favorites with the Bills to land Garrett). Worry about the ramifications years from now when those guys are done.