Myles Garrett requests a trade

[Kirby Jackson]

22 minutes ago, Ga boy said:

To get Garrett, it would take a Herschel Walker type swap - 3 first and seconds.  Does this trust the process group have the stomach to do so?  Hope not.

That’s the $20M question. I suspect they go all in (assuming Terry is okay stroking the upfront $$). It’ll be interesting and you may be right on the Garrett cost. They may go 1/2 step down to Crosby or try to sign Mack.

Edited yesterday at 03:59 PM by Kirby Jackson

[HomeTeam]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I mean, what are we being conservative with? Why do we care about protecting cap space 3 years from now? We can just push that back in 3 years if needed. Also, why are we worried, that the best defensive player in football, at age 29, comes here and doesn’t work out? If you’re betting on anyone that’s who you’re betting on. 
 

I guess where I’m at, is there is NO reason to be conservative now. This IS the time you’ve been conservative for. You probably have 5-7 years left of “elite” Josh Allen. There’s no reason to let that number to lower to 4-6 “just in case something goes south?” They 100% need to take any and all chances. Throw caution to the wind. Kick the cap can down the road as far as we can in terms of cap hits. 

These are some solid points. I see your argument and I'm in agreement that there needs to be an increased urgency with this front office. 

 

I will say that I don't want a one and done with this team. I think Josh Allen has multiple Superbowl runs in him. We've been a little unlucky so far in his career to not win one yet. 

 

 

[Mark Vader]

3 hours ago, Ga boy said:

To get Garrett, it would take a Herschel Walker type swap - 3 first and seconds.  Does this trust the process group have the stomach to do so?  Hope not.

I can't imagine any team giving up that much draft capital for a player.

 

If that's the asking price, then I'd rather see what it would take to get Crosby.

[SoTier]

4 hours ago, HomeTeam said:

I guess I'm just a little more conservative in nature, especially since we just witnessed the Von Miller case play out.  Luckily we did not have to trade for that scenario to compound the situation. 

 

I don't have much else to add to the conversation. I will have to trust that Beane will make the right decision. 

 

I hear you, and usually I am not one to go chasing pipe-dream trades or FA signings, but Garrett is sooo good that I see the only possible "problem" with him is that he's injured or becomes sick and can't come back.  He's toiled valiantly -- and patiently -- for the Browns, so he'll appreciate playing for a top notch organization with a real chance to get a ring.

 

[Coach Tuesday]

9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Spot on. This isn’t the spot for them to overthink it or worry about protecting future assets. You have a chance to get the best defensive player in football, in his prime, at your position of biggest need. There will never be a better opportunity to “go for it.” 

I agree but I wonder if being in this small of a market with a new stadium coming online Pegula’s people feel that financially they can’t afford to go all in now and then bust out in 4-5 years.  They may have a much more risk-averse outlook on things given how tenuous of a market Buffalo is.

[MikePJ76]

I posted Joe Buscaglia's offseason plan which included a trade for garrett in the mock draft thread.  Maybe I should have put it here?

[SoonerBillsFan]

I don't see us getting Garrett, Browns will want too much

 Maxx is a possibility. 

[RyanC883]

8 hours ago, BigDingus said:

How would you guys feel about trading for Micah Parsons?

 

My friend lives across the street from Micah Parson's girlfriend & frequently talks to him when he goes over there. He told me yesterday that Parsons was saying he's preparing to be traded & thinks the Cowboys are going to be looking for picks soon. Most of the time, he doesn't talk much football & chats about other stuff, but this was one of the rare times Micah brought it up.

 

Got me thinking, what would it take to get him, and would that be something people would even want.

 

I might rather get Mack in FA.  Parsons is too much of a one trick pass rushing pony. 

[That's No Moon]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I agree but I wonder if being in this small of a market with a new stadium coming online Pegula’s people feel that financially they can’t afford to go all in now and then bust out in 4-5 years.  They may have a much more risk-averse outlook on things given how tenuous of a market Buffalo is.

Terry could spend net -200M cash a year for 35 years straight and not go broke. He's fine.

8 hours ago, Ga boy said:

To get Garrett, it would take a Herschel Walker type swap - 3 first and seconds.  Does this trust the process group have the stomach to do so?  Hope not.

First of all, I disagree that Cleveland will get anywhere near that much. Secondly, if that IS the price you walk away.

[Kirby Jackson]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I agree but I wonder if being in this small of a market with a new stadium coming online Pegula’s people feel that financially they can’t afford to go all in now and then bust out in 4-5 years.  They may have a much more risk-averse outlook on things given how tenuous of a market Buffalo is.

Fair point and that’s potentially the case. The counterpoint would be, “what better way to open a new stadium than by raising a banner?”

Edited 16 hours ago by Kirby Jackson

[davefan66]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I agree but I wonder if being in this small of a market with a new stadium coming online Pegula’s people feel that financially they can’t afford to go all in now and then bust out in 4-5 years.  They may have a much more risk-averse outlook on things given how tenuous of a market Buffalo is.

These aren’t cash to cap days, thankfully.

 

Not sure what you mean that Buffalo is a tenuous market? New stadium. Signed lease. Almost completely full with season ticket holders who have PSL’s. Not sure I’d call it tenuous.

 

Do they trade for Garrett? Depends on the draft capital/players it would take.  And of course, do we have the cap space to pay the man along with this years and nexts years FA’s?

 

It seems to me when Buffalo is mentioned as a possible trade partner, especially for an extended period of time, we don’t do the dance.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

7 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

I can't imagine any team giving up that much draft capital for a player.

 

If that's the asking price, then I'd rather see what it would take to get Crosby.

 

6 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

I hear you, and usually I am not one to go chasing pipe-dream trades or FA signings, but Garrett is sooo good that I see the only possible "problem" with him is that he's injured or becomes sick and can't come back.  He's toiled valiantly -- and patiently -- for the Browns, so he'll appreciate playing for a top notch organization with a real chance to get a ring.

 

 

5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I agree but I wonder if being in this small of a market with a new stadium coming online Pegula’s people feel that financially they can’t afford to go all in now and then bust out in 4-5 years.  They may have a much more risk-averse outlook on things given how tenuous of a market Buffalo is.

 

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Fair point and that’s potentially the case. The counterpoint would be, “what better way to open a new stadium than by raising a banner?”

 

Read an article today in the Athletic, basically says very doubtful Cleveland trades Garrett as the cap hit to them would be too high.  Between what they owe Watson, plus they have other deals where they added void years, adding Garrett to this would be too much.  Article says Cleveland is in one of the worst spots in league.

 

Most teams can sacrifice that cap space, but not the Browns. Already $24.3 million over the projected cap, they have used these accounting tricks for so many other players that it'd be difficult for them to find the additional $16.5 million in cap room.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6151513/2025/02/21/myles-garrett-how-void-years-work-nfl-scoop-city/

[Richard Noggin]

1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

 

 

 

Read an article today in the Athletic, basically says very doubtful Cleveland trades Garrett as the cap hit to them would be too high.  Between what they owe Watson, plus they have other deals where they added void years, adding Garrett to this would be too much.  Article says Cleveland is in one of the worst spots in league.

 

Most teams can sacrifice that cap space, but not the Browns. Already $24.3 million over the projected cap, they have used these accounting tricks for so many other players that it'd be difficult for them to find the additional $16.5 million in cap room.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6151513/2025/02/21/myles-garrett-how-void-years-work-nfl-scoop-city/

 

So badly run,

they're ruining it

for every one. 

[GunnerBill]

8 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I might rather get Mack in FA.  Parsons is too much of a one trick pass rushing pony. 

 

Parsons >>>>>>>>>>> Khalil Mack. 

 

When you factor in what it would cost to gst Parsons compared to Mack being a FA I see how it is closer. But as talents? It is not close.

[GETTOTHE50]

Cap space should be more flexible in this league than it already is. Maybe the league should be able to forgive cap debt to help give teams more opportunity to be competitive regardless of their mistakes 

[Augie]

3 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

Cap space should be more flexible in this league than it already is. Maybe the league should be able to forgive cap debt to help give teams more opportunity to be competitive regardless of their mistakes 

 

I don’t see any reason to pardon the Browns. They have a cap for a reason. I want Haslam to have to take his medicine for being one of the worst owners in professional sports. I feel for their fans, but I want to stick it to Haslam. 

[njbuff]

18 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I don’t see any reason to pardon the Browns. They have a cap for a reason. I want Haslam to have to take his medicine for being one of the worst owners in professional sports. I feel for their fans, but I want to stick it to Haslam. 

Haslam should forced to sell the team if he can’t make it competitive. 😁

[Augie]

24 minutes ago, njbuff said:

Haslam should forced to sell the team if he can’t make it competitive. 😁

 

I was hoping his legal troubles would drag on and be the impetus to get him out of the league, but apparently he’s not enough of a crook, or too good of a crook, that that never came to be. 

[PromoTheRobot]

So, 69 pages so far. Had the trade happened yet?

[bobobonators]

10 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

 

 

 

Read an article today in the Athletic, basically says very doubtful Cleveland trades Garrett as the cap hit to them would be too high.  Between what they owe Watson, plus they have other deals where they added void years, adding Garrett to this would be too much.  Article says Cleveland is in one of the worst spots in league.

 

Most teams can sacrifice that cap space, but not the Browns. Already $24.3 million over the projected cap, they have used these accounting tricks for so many other players that it'd be difficult for them to find the additional $16.5 million in cap room.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6151513/2025/02/21/myles-garrett-how-void-years-work-nfl-scoop-city/

what a disaster of an organization.