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14 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Honestly, when it comes to this theory of a team with a Rookie QB and a better cap situation, Washington makes a lot of sense. 

 

Thinking predictively, to me the two teams that make the most sense are Buffalo and Detroit. Both teams have been right on the cusp of breaking through and can reasonably convince themselves that one more elite player could close the deal. Both have QBs of a certain age where they probably have a five year prime window to maximize their talent which matches up with Garrett's remaining prime years. Both have been known to be aggressive when making moves and not afraid to give up draft picks.

 

Washington I could see them thinking they are one big move away but personally I think they should make sure they don't do what Houston did and push their chips in too early because of one magical year. There are a lot of similarities there. Washington was very recently drafting #2 overall which tells you they have a lot of fundamental holes they need to fill before they should push their chips in.

 

The only other team that makes any kind of sense to me is Green Bay, but that organization has very much been about drafting and developing their own players for a while now. They don't strike me as a player in this kind of blockbuster trade.

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Thinking predictively, to me the two teams that make the most sense are Buffalo and Detroit. Both teams have been right on the cusp of breaking through and can reasonably convince themselves that one more elite player could close the deal. Both have QBs of a certain age where they probably have a five year prime window to maximize their talent which matches up with Garrett's remaining prime years. Both have been known to be aggressive when making moves and not afraid to give up draft picks.

 

Washington I could see them thinking they are one big move away but personally I think they should make sure they don't do what Houston did and push their chips in too early because of one magical year. There are a lot of similarities there. Washington was very recently drafting #2 overall which tells you they have a lot of fundamental holes they need to fill before they should push their chips in.

 

The only other team that makes any kind of sense to me is Green Bay, but that organization has very much been about drafting and developing their own players for a while now. They don't strike me as a player in this kind of blockbuster trade.

I would be very disappointed and concerned if Bean didn't make a hard push to obtain Garrett.  I get they might not land him but anything less then a full court press here would be a grave letdown and make me question their real commitment to getting over the hump.

 

 

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Camon Beane get this done.  Push all your chips in on this one.  If we’re lucky we have 5 more years of prime Allen,  we are running out of time!  An elite edge rusher is this team’s missing piece!

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3 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

Might have to sweeten the deal with VanDemark, or Grable. Or thinking out of the box Dawkins or Brown. 

No to Dawkins and Brown. They are top tackles and team leaders. It would be a terrible idea to mess with one of the significant reasons Josh just won MVP. The oline is a strength. Let's keep it that way.

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This is my issue with a trade like this.

 

Giving up all that draft capital plus star players of your own for 1 guy isn't worth it in football.

 

Maybe basketball or hockey where you're 1 of a handful of guys out there makes more sense.

 

Yes, adding him to this team would be amazing! But adding him to this team but taking away an elite OT and a guy like Cook is going the wrong way. 

 

If it could be just draft picks then it makes more sense. 

 

3 1sts. You give up the drafting of Kincaid, Rousseau and Elam for him? That's a no brainer. Obviously doesn't quite work that way but just an example. 

 

No way I want to lose current players from the roster. Unless they want Elam. 

 

 

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I am fine giving up players and draft picks. We have very few difference makers on this team and I think we tend to overvalue them. But player-for-player trades usually don’t happen in the NFL, so let it be draft picks. Our 1st round picks outside of Allen haven’t produced any elite players. Maybe it’s our poor draft position or maybe it’s Beane, it doesn’t matter. 

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Our defense is missing an element of “nasty”.  We are just too easy to throw against and do whatever, especially the elite playoff teams.

 

Offense gets you to the playoffs, Defense wins championships. 

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I understand the argument for Washington being a good landing spot for Myles, but I wonder if they would make the deal?

 

They did so well in the draft last year, they might say, let's find our own guy. If you pay all the draft capital to get him, you suddenly lose some of the advantages you had over other teams. Ideally you can go after Tee Higgins, or any other top FA to bolster your roster, and than also load up in the draft.

 

Young regimes typically don't like to part ways with their draft capital.

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3 hours ago, zow2 said:

Our defense is missing an element of “nasty”.  We are just too easy to throw against and do whatever, especially the elite playoff teams.

 

Offense gets you to the playoffs, Defense wins championships. 


Garrett + a CB like DJ Reed would make this team A LOT harder to beat in the playoffs

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On 2/6/2025 at 8:38 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So the Patriots are going to trade the 4th overall pick for a veteran pass rusher when they were just thisclose to being the worst team in the league?

 

I think we have to remember the perspective of the acquiring team.    That 4th overall pick is GOLD to them.

 

If they won't give that up........and nobody gives up picks that early for expensive veteran talent of any sort........then the rest of their 2025 draft capital is less than Buffalo can offer.    

 

This is why teams like the Russ era Bills get fleeced by Philadelphia in the Jason Peters deal.   The parties with the picks that align better are at the back end of round 1.    Sure bad teams are interested too........but they don't want to part with pick #5.......and their next pick is usually AFTER the good teams.

 

And then, on top of that, the Pats are going to risk sending 2026 picks as well and hope they don't go 6-11 as their young QB goes thru growing pains?   It doesn't make sense at their stage of build.  I think Marrone works there now but that doesn't mean they'd try to put the cart before the horse in the same manner that the Marrone Jags did before their incredibly quick ascent and fall.

 

Now Washington makes a lot more sense.   But other than picking one spot ahead of the Bills in the draft.......they don't have as much draft capital this year as Buffalo either.   And they have more roster holes in general.   What they CAN do is absorb money that the Bills would be hard pressed to.   But the Browns are in a weird spot.   Other than Newsome they don't have salaries that would be a benefit to dispose of.

We'll take Newsome too

7 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

Might have to sweeten the deal with VanDemark, or Grable. Or thinking out of the box Dawkins or Brown. 

okay okay   Absolutely not , hes buds with Myles ^^ And hard no to Brown

Do NOT mess with the O line !!

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On 2/7/2025 at 3:18 PM, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Not sure thats a hint...but at least good to know he wouldnt rule us out lol

C'mon bud that's definitely a hint.  What other Super Bowl contenders play in snow?  I don't think he is talking about Philly or G.B. they're in the NFC and I'm assuming he would rather stay in the AFC if he could.

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He is truly a step above physically… sort of like Josh Allen is at QB, he is at DE.

 

Would give us that fear factor, like Jones for KC.

 

Two firsts? Would give them our last three first rounders— Elam, Coleman and Kincaid—in a heartbeat!

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4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


Garrett + a CB like DJ Reed would make this team A LOT harder to beat in the playoffs

 

A big trade for Garrett and then a moderately large signing like Reed is a MUCH more feasible idea than two massive Trades. 

 

But that leaves us pretty much rolling it back on Offense. Re-Signing Mack Hollins and then relying on, at best, a late 2nd Round Pick to fill Amari Cooper's slot. And a WR you're taking at 56 or 62 is 9 times out of 10 not providing much of an impact as a Rookie.

 

And i'm still of the mind that Playoff Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are going to have answers for whatever we field on Defense. Forget what you see in the Regular Season from them, when it comes to the Playoffs over the past 6 years - they've only been stopped twice.

 

Once against the Buccanneers in the Super Bowl - and that was because injuries along the way completely DECIMATED their Offensive Line. If we ever get that lucky as the Bucs did, you don't need an 85 Bears Defense for dealing with that. The one time in their 6 years of dominance they were legitimately stopped without injuries being the reason was by the Bengals. And that came from a high powered Offense keeping up with them and beating them in Overtime when Mahomes threw an errant pass. Every other time? Didn't matter what the Defense put in front of them. Reid's Offensive Gameplan scheming to neutralize the Defense's strengths and Playoff Mahomes' Michael Jordan-esque play overcame them all. 

 

It's odd to me that for the past few years people have bemoaned Brandon Beane for designating High Draft Picks and large amounts of Salary Cap space to build the Defense to beat the Chiefs. So many posters have said that's not how you beat the Chiefs. Ever since the trade for Diggs, people have said Beane has neglected the WR core. But this year, everyone wants to get Garrett and many want *another* massive piece on Defense (whether that be another trade or a big FA) on top of Garrett and want to go all in on Defense. I find it confusing.

 

That said, if they can get Garrett and still be able to adequately address WR - i'm all for it! But I don't see how they trade for Garrett, sign Reed, and address WR with something substantial. If going all in on Defense is the play, we'd better hope that Kincaid transforms into something more than we've seen, Coleman takes a large step in Year 2, the Rookie is a rare immediate impact player, and/or Samuel stays healthy and we get more from him this year. Because I don't want to be relying as heavily on James Cook to carry us or see Josh running around looking for an open man who isn't separating nearly as often this year. I want more Offensive Firepower. 

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3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

A big trade for Garrett and then a moderately large signing like Reed is a MUCH more feasible idea than two massive Trades. 

 

But that leaves us pretty much rolling it back on Offense. Re-Signing Mack Hollins and then relying on, at best, a late 2nd Round Pick to fill Amari Cooper's slot. And a WR you're taking at 56 or 62 is 9 times out of 10 not providing much of an impact as a Rookie.

 

And i'm still of the mind that Playoff Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are going to have answers for whatever we field on Defense. Forget what you see in the Regular Season from them, when it comes to the Playoffs over the past 6 years - they've only been stopped twice.

 

Once against the Buccanneers in the Super Bowl - and that was because injuries along the way completely DECIMATED their Offensive Line. If we ever get that lucky as the Bucs did, you don't need an 85 Bears Defense for dealing with that. The one time in their 6 years of dominance they were stopped was by the Bengals. And that came from a high powered Offense keeping up with them and beating them in Overtime when Mahomes threw an errant pass. Every other time? Didn't matter what the Defense put in front of them. Reid's Offensive Gameplan scheming to neutralize the Defense's strengths and Playoff Mahomes' Michael Jordan-esque play overcame them all. 

 

It's odd to me that for the past few years people have bemoaned Brandon Beane for designating High Draft Picks and large amounts of Salary Cap space to build the Defense to beat the Chiefs. So many posters have said that's not how you beat the Chiefs. Ever since the trade for Diggs, people have said Beane has neglected the WR core. But this year, everyone wants to get Garrett and many want *another* massive piece on Defense (whether that be another trade or a big FA) on top of Garrett and want to go all in on Defense. I find it confusing.

 

That said, if they can get Garrett and still be able to adequately address WR - i'm all for it! But I don't see how they trade for Garrett, sign Reed, and address WR with something substantial. If going all in on Defense is the play, we'd better hope that Kincaid transforms into something more than we've seen, Coleman takes a large step in Year 2, the Rookie is a rare immediate impact player, and/or Samuel stays healthy and we get more from him this year. Because I don't want to be relying as heavily on James Cook to carry us or see Josh running around looking for an open man as often this year. I want more Offensive Firepower. 

All of this is very fair, I’m thinking trade for Garrett or Crosby, add a WR in free agency and draft DB or vice versa.

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