Myles Garrett requests a trade

[Solomon Grundy]

8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I get your point, but with $123M in cap space right now, I think they can make it work. New England is such an interesting situation right now.

Garrett said in an interview that he wants to go to a team with a bonafide QB. Not a game manager type of QB. A team that's a Super Bowl contender. NE has/is neither 

1 minute ago, The Jokeman said:

No but pretty sure he can mandate where he going or at least give the Browns a short list.

Think the organization owes him this much?

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

Unless he retires, he can't stop the trade.  

 

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24 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

He doesnt need a no trade clause. He can just say he will refuse to consider a new contract with that new team and sink the trade deal.

 

No one is going to trade multiple 1sts for a 2 year rental, and Cleveland wants to milk as many high picks out of this as they can.

 

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Garrett said in an interview that he wants to go to a team with a bonafide QB. Not a game manager type of QB. A team that's a Super Bowl contender. NE has/is neither 

Think the organization owes him this much?

No but I'm pretty sure the team getting him going to make damn sure he committed playing with them.

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Garrett said in an interview that he wants to go to a team with a bonafide QB. Not a game manager type of QB. A team that's a Super Bowl contender. NE has/is neither

 

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49 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

DHop said he wanted to go to a contender, and then followed the money to Tennessee.

 

That is just something players say when they are trying to push their way out of their current situation.

 

I could totally see Garrett being ok with going to New England because of 1. Money and 2. Vrabel.

 

 

Those statements go right out the window when new contract talks start.

[HomeTeam]

On 2/5/2025 at 9:21 PM, LabattBlue said:

You mean this mild mannered guy…

😂
 

 

Wow totally forgot about this incident 😅

Just goes to show you, that these guys become different people when they enter the field. 

[cle23]

44 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

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Yes, Garrett has some sway here. But he also has 2 years left in his contract and about $50M in salaries.

[Returntoglory]

I'm sure Josh winning the MVP tonight and his speech, showed Myles the special human Josh is as well as his love for the organization. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Returntoglory said:

I'm sure Josh winning the MVP tonight and his speech, showed Myles the special human Josh is as well as his love for the organization. 

Myles and Maxx are going to have a chat tonight and decide to join forces in Buffalo😈 thanks to the class of Josh

 

Do it Beane. Draft a huge NT with the 1 pick we’d have left🤣

[Returntoglory]

6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Myles and Maxx are going to have a chat tonight and decide to join forces in Buffalo😈 thanks to the class of Josh

 

Do it Beane. Draft a huge NT with the 1 pick we’d have left🤣

God, I could just hug you! 😉

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yeah, that is the best thing we have going for us in this race. The Pats pick too high to give up their 1st.

 

Although Im not sure there is a player as good as Garrett at #4 this year. So who knows.

 

I also wonder if the Browns would take the Pats 2025 2nd, 2026 1st, and 2026 2nd...

 

 

 

 

There probably isn't a player like Garrett.......but 8 years of Garrett are gone.   I don't think there has ever been a vet traded for a pick that high.   So I think we have to write that possibility off.    They also don't have the usual ability to offer value in a trade UP.   The Browns pick ahead of them.

 

As to trading those 2026 picks.......what a predicament THAT would be for the Pats to put that young QB in after a 4-13 season though.

 

No pressure bro, but it's playoffs or bust and Josh Allen is in your division.

 

Maye had some moments if you grade him on a curve.  And I thought very highly of him entering the draft.  But to my surprise he looked more like a young Mitchell Trubisky than a player in the category of Daniels or Bo Nix who you might feel comfortable going all in for.   Just something missing.  He dirted 2 passes on 4th down in week 17 against the Chargers like a post-concussed Trent Edwards.   I think you want to hold onto them picks JUST IN CASE he isn't that guy and you are picking top 10 again in an Arch Manning draft.   It just isn't the way you re-build from 4-13.     

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

39 minutes ago, HomeTeam said:

Wow totally forgot about this incident 😅

Just goes to show you, that these guys become different people when they enter the field. 

He was just trying to return the gentleman’s helmet haha 

[SydneyBillsFan]

7 hours ago, Returntoglory said:

Ok "Sydney" 

 

Where I'm just loving the 85 degree weather 😁

[BillsFanForever19]

7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Now Washington makes a lot more sense.   But other than picking one spot ahead of the Bills in the draft.......they don't have as much draft capital this year as Buffalo either.   And they have more roster holes in general.   What they CAN do is absorb money that the Bills would be hard pressed to.   But the Browns are in a weird spot.   Other than Newsome they don't have salaries that would be a benefit to dispose of.

 

Honestly, when it comes to this theory of a team with a Rookie QB and a better cap situation, Washington makes a lot of sense. 

 

From Garrett's statement: "While I loved calling this city my home, my dream to win and compete on the biggest stages won't allow me to be complacent. The goal was never to go from Cleveland to Canton, it has always been to compete for and win a Super Bowl".

 

While Garrett doesn't appear to have a No Trade clause, I don't see the Browns just trading him anywhere after letting his reasoning for wanting out of Cleveland known in such a way. It would be a bad look for them to say "thanks for everything Myles, now we're sending you to Siberia". Nor do I think he'd respond well to being traded to a team that isn't a Contender like, say the Patriots. And I think teams like that know that.

 

But Washington having made it to the NFC Championship on Year 1 of Jayden Daniels would be an obstacle for us. Like you said, they pick 1 pick before us.

 

But we also have 2 Picks in Round 2. And our first 2nd Round Pick comes 5 picks before their 2nd. So if we wanted to do a 1st and a 2nd this year as part of the deal - our 30 and 56 trumps their 29 and 61. And we could do that, still have a 2nd at Pick 62, and 7 more picks in Rounds 4 through 7.

Edited February 7 by BillsFanForever19

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Maye had some moments if you grade him on a curve.  And I thought very highly of him entering the draft.  But to my surprise he looked more like a young Mitchell Trubisky than a player in the category of Daniels or Bo Nix who you might feel comfortable going all in for.   Just something missing.  He dirted 2 passes on 4th down in week 17 against the Chargers like a post-concussed Trent Edwards.   I think you want to hold onto them picks JUST IN CASE he isn't that guy and you are picking top 10 again in an Arch Manning draft.   It just isn't the way you re-build from 4-13.     

 

Yea I don't think Maye has yet shown enough for a team to go all in for a big name vet trade. Take the Bills and Diggs..... I don't think you make that trade after Josh's rookie year, but after 2019 you are much more sure what you have and you do it. 

[Magox]

8 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

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Those statements go right out the window when new contract talks start.

I understand what you’re saying and often times this is just posturing from players for their next contract.

 

We don’t know what’s inside this man’s heart and it’s very possible that one of his primary goals is to play for a contender along with getting a good contract.  I’m sure he’s tasked his agency to begin talking to contending teams to see if they would be willing to trade for him and if so what those terms could look like.

 

The Browns will be receiving tons of calls, however it doesn’t make sense for teams that have little hopes for contending the next couple years to go after him, those draft picks are seen as golden, specially the first 10 picks of a draft.   
 

My guess is that at worst he will be traded to a bottom tier playoff team.   But I do believe a team like the Bills who literally have been a coin flip away from possibly reaching their goals against the Chiefs will make a strong run at Garrett and if another non contending team has the best offer will be kept in the loop by Garrets negotiating agency on what it would take for the Browns to pull the trigger, whereas Garrets people wouldn’t extend the same courtesy to a non contender if the Bills had the best trade offer.

 

I know that the Browns don’t have to have Garrets approval but I do think they will try to collaborate with them as much as what is reasonably possible.

[MrEpsYtown]

9 hours ago, HomeTeam said:

Wow totally forgot about this incident 😅

Just goes to show you, that these guys become different people when they enter the field. 

 

To be fair, Mason Rudolph has an extremely punchable face. 

[SoTier]

22 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

Agreed but if including Groot saves giving up a couple higher picks I'm at least listening.

 

Draft picks, especially where the Bills are and are likely to draft in the next 2 drafts, are like lottery tickets.  You might win big but if you win anything at all, it's going to be a much lesser prize.  The chances of the Bills acquiring a DL even close to Garrett's quality in either of the next 2 drafts are between slim and none.  I'd give up the picks and keep Groot.

 

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea I don't think Maye has yet shown enough for a team to go all in for a big name vet trade. Take the Bills and Diggs..... I don't think you make that trade after Josh's rookie year, but after 2019 you are much more sure what you have and you do it. 

 

NFL history is littered with lots of QBs who looked like keepers while playing part of their rookie seasons but crashed and burned as full time starters.

[SoTier]

10 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

To be fair, Mason Rudolph has an extremely punchable face. 

 

Garrett has never had any other instance of that kind of on-field behavior, which leads me to believe that there was more to the incident.  At the time, Garrett claimed Rudolph called him a name.  Of course Rudolph denied it.  The NFL decided to rule on the behavior they saw, not what might have provoked it, which is their usual procedure on personal fouls.

[26TrapDraw]

Go get this done period whatever it takes.

show Josh and us you really truly want to win a championship instead of that weak Defense we trotted out there . Fix this defense right this second and go win a title. This move helps do that. We are only a couple pieces away on D.

[jethro_tull]

Hopefully the Browns GM will agree......