Myles Garrett requests a trade

[SUNTANBILLS FAN]

I don’t care the cost in draft stock! Get the man to compliment Josh on the defensive side! 

[Aussie Joe]

Been listening to some of the Cleveland media thoughts on a possible trade of Garrett…

 

I’ve read a lot of complaints here over the years about the Bills media being shills ….They have nothing on these grovellers … Mary Kay Cabot thinks Garrett should stay as the Browns are really close to being competitive next season …😑

[Clyde Smith]

3 hours ago, Magox said:

 

 

While we're dreaming here,

 

Bills get:  Denzel Ward, Myles Garrett

 

Cleveland gets:  2025 1st, 2026 1st, 2027 1st, Bernard, Kair Elam and Epenesa.

 

This is a move all the Chips in sorta move. lol

That's not dreaming, that's a nightmare. Giving up way too much bub!

[Warriorspikes51]

It's pretty clear that Myles Garrett and Maxx Crosby both want to be Buffalo Bills

LETS GO 

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Trade for both. 

Resign mack

Sign another wr

Resign ty Johnson and will clapp for depth 

 

Use rest of draft capital to rebuild secondary and dline depth 

 

 

 

Find a creative way to give Allen a contract extension that frees up major $ over the next few seasons to help fit those guys

it would be the best way to combat the QB's of the AFC going forward

of course it's a pipe dream to get both.....but not landing one of them is a FAILURE

Edited February 6 by Warriorspikes51

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

5 hours ago, Magox said:

 

 

While we're dreaming here,

 

Bills get:  Denzel Ward, Myles Garrett

 

Cleveland gets:  2025 1st, 2026 1st, 2027 1st, Bernard, Kair Elam and Epenesa.

 

This is a move all the Chips in sorta move. lol

ward is only Now questioning what he is doing in Cleveland?! 

[Alphadawg7]

11 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

of course it's a pipe dream to get both.....but not landing one of them is a FAILURE

 

I am not gonna lie...this is kind of where I am at right now. 

 

To be this close, to have this much extra draft ammo, to be able to afford getting them, and to have the least amount of holes maybe ever in the Allen era and not go get one of these guys would feel like a failure.  Especially if they get traded elsewhere and given we have given the most points up in the history of the NFL in playoff losses the past 5 seasons.  Its not a secret to what our issue is...we have no play makers, no difference makers on defense and its forcing our offense into positions to where they need to be perfect and that is not a good spot to put Allen in.

 

Go do for the D what you once did for Allen and the offense to take a big step...go trade for a proven difference maker like they did Diggs.  

[TBBills Fan]

Why isn't a deal done yet?

 

Beane sleeping on the job?

[aristocrat]

21 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

I don't think they're going to stop at Garrett or Crosby. I think there's going to be some major overhaul on the dline and with depth too. 

 

Obviously getting both Crosby and Garrett is unrealistic but there's going to be more moves 

 

I think the secondary could also see up to 5 new additions from the draft. I don't think that's crazy 

 

Jeffery Simmons is a guy I’d love to see on the bills. He’s what we want Oliver to be. Him and Oliver next to each other would be wild

[sleeby]

You guys are nuts.  Giving away way too much for a 30yo.   Our D needs more than one stud.

[sleeby]

6 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

If they can keep both 2s this draft is very deep on the dline 

 

If it took two number 1s and some change to get a 29 year old Bruce Smith, would you do it?

 

I think it's crazy if you didn't 

 

 

He will cost a lot more than the price to sign him.  See Von Miller.

[BillsFanForever19]

16 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

I mean wouldn't it mirror the Khalil mack trade?

 

Pretty much. Which is why the idea of doing something like Garrett and swinging for another big move really isn't an option. If you're paying the Mack price of 2 1st's (probably even more than that) and signing a guy to a projected 4 year, 137m contract (which is what he'll demand) - you're going to neglect some of the other holes (starting WR, starting 1T DT, starting CB, starting Safety) and be hard pressed to retain the people we'll need to retain (Rousseau, Benford, Shakir, Cook, and Bernard all FA's next season).

 

And with the picks you'd be giving up, you can't replace those people with anything of value in the Draft. And the idea of "who cares, he isn't hitting in the Draft" neglects the fact that for everyone you aren't Drafting, you need to go out and find a replacement in FA - which costs more money. 

Edited February 6 by BillsFanForever19

[Warriorspikes51]

19 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Pretty much. Which is why the idea of doing something like Garrett and swinging for another big move really isn't an option. If you're paying the Mack price of 2 1st's (probably even more than that) and signing a guy to a projected 4 year, 137m contract (which is what he'll demand) - you're going to neglect some of the other holes (starting WR, starting 1T DT, starting CB, starting Safety) and be hard pressed to retain the people we'll need to retain (Rousseau, Benford, Shakir, Cook, and Bernard all FA's next season).

 

And with the picks you'd be giving up, you can't replace those people with anything of value in the Draft. And the idea of "who cares, he isn't hitting in the Draft" neglects the fact that for everyone you aren't Drafting, you need to go out and find a replacement in FA - which costs more money. 

I hope Beane has an intern that reads these boards and reports back on your posts just so he makes moves to prove you wrong

 

”the Bills can’t do ________”

 

is the theme of your term paper. We know

 

My theme is Madden mode infinity franchise😎

Edited February 6 by Warriorspikes51

[BADOLBILZ]

20 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Pretty much. Which is why the idea of doing something like Garrett and swinging for another big move really isn't an option. If you're paying the Mack price of 2 1st's (probably even more than that) and signing a guy to a projected 4 year, 137m contract (which is what he'll demand) - you're going to neglect some of the other holes (starting WR, starting 1T DT, starting CB, starting Safety) and be hard pressed to retain the people we'll need to retain (Rousseau, Benford, Shakir, Cook, and Bernard all FA's next season). And with the picks you'd giving up, you can't replace those people with anything of value in the Draft.

 

 

You think they "need" to retain Cook, Shakir, Benford and Bernard?

 

Veteran RB's, Slot receivers, zone CB's and off-ball LB's are nice to have but when you are trying to remain competitive this deep into a star QB's career you can't have like 8 guys on $15M aav deals too.  

 

Those are mistakes that Beane made extending guys like Tre White and Milano and Knox.   Whether they add a star or two or not, they can't just expect to run it back at non-premium positions.    

 

That's not how teams like Baltimore and KC do it and they've been in their competitive windows even longer than Buffalo.  They gotta' get used to the cycle of replacing non premium positions every 4 years.

[BillsFanForever19]

46 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I hope Beane has an intern that reads these boards and reports back on your posts just so he makes moves to prove you wrong

 

”the Bills can’t do ________”

 

is the theme of your term paper. We know

 

My theme is Madden mode infinity franchise😎

 

I'm not saying they can't do Garrett. Or they can't do Maxx Crosby. They absolutely could. And if they feel they can do it and adequately fill the rest of their positions, they should.

 

But yes, if you say "trade for Garrett AND Crosby" - no, that's simply not feasible. Both are going to command 100m+ contracts and require more Draft picks than we can afford to give. We're already going to have to give up our 1st this year, our 1st next year, and probably a 2nd this year or next year for Garrett alone.

 

As you said, you're on Madden Infinity Franchise. I'll say "we can do Garrett or Crosby but not Garrett AND Crosby" and you'll say "why are you so negative?". As if acquiring Myles Garrett or Maxx Crosby alone isn't a massive thing. Even when I give you a big move, you take it 2 miles further into video game mode to say "man, you just say we can't do anything". 

 

34 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

You think they "need" to retain Cook, Shakir, Benford and Bernard?

 

Veteran RB's, Slot receivers, zone CB's and off-ball LB's are nice to have but when you are trying to remain competitive this deep into a star QB's career you can't have like 8 guys on $15M aav deals too.  

 

Those are mistakes that Beane made extending guys like Tre White and Milano and Knox.   Whether they add a star or two or not, they can't just expect to run it back at non-premium positions.    

 

That's not how teams like Baltimore and KC do it and they've been in their competitive windows even longer than Buffalo.  They gotta' get used to the cycle of replacing non premium positions every 4 years.

 

There's definitely fair points in there. But you also need to be able to fill all those spots somehow, even if you aren't retaining them. 

 

And in the context I'm speaking of, which is the idea of trading for and signing both Garrett AND Crosby, I don't know how you're doing that with the bounty of Draft Picks and Cap Space obtaining both would require.

 

We wouldn't have a pick before Round 3 or 4 two years running, so we'd be relying on Day 3 Draft Picks, UDFA's, and/or signing street budget FA's with limited cap space for a very large amount of the teams starters both this year and next year.

Edited February 6 by BillsFanForever19

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said:

Why isn't a deal done yet?

 

Beane sleeping on the job?

Buddy Nix comes to mind lol

jk

Edited February 6 by 3rdand12

[BADOLBILZ]

20 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I'm not saying they can't do Garrett. Or they can't do Maxx Crosby. They absolutely could. And if they feel they can do it and adequately fill the rest of their positions, they should.

 

But yes, if you say "trade for Garrett AND Crosby" - no, that's simply not feasible. Both are going to command 100m+ contracts and require more Draft picks than we can afford to give. We're already going to have to give up our 1st this year, our 1st next year, and probably a 2nd this year or next year for Garrett alone.

 

As you said, you're on Madden Infinity Franchise. I'll say "we can do Garrett or Crosby but not Garrett AND Crosby" and you'll say "why are you so negative?". As if acquiring Myles Garrett or Maxx Crosby alone isn't a massive thing.

 

 

There's definitely fair points in there. But you also need to be able to fill all those spots somehow, even if you aren't retaining them. 

 

And in the context I'm speaking of, which is the idea of trading for and signing both Garrett AND Crosby, I don't know how you're doing that with the bounty of Draft Picks and Cap Space obtaining both would require.

 

We wouldn't have a pick before Round 3 or 4 two years running, so we'd be relying on Day 3 Draft Picks, UDFA's, and/or signing street budget FA's with limited cap space for a very large amount of the teams starters.

 

Yeah, I don't disagree that Garrett and Crosby would be a lot of early picks.   So would Garrett and DK Metcalf to a lesser extent(and makes more sense because you can justify retaining both with extensions and building around them and Allen).

 

But they shouldn't be using early picks on non-premium positions anyway.

 

For instance, 28 starting safeties in free agency and Beane uses a 2nd rounder on a safety.    That's not how to do it, IMO.

[3rdand12]

I think the Garrett plus another elite is tongue in cheek humor.

Mine is Higgins as the second very worthwhile indulgence.

 

 But  Mr. Garrett ? you gotta work this one hard Beane.

Keep in mind cleveland FO is not that bright. Maybe we get Ward too lol

Edited February 7 by 3rdand12

[Buffalo Ballin]

In the age where the Los Angeles Lakers gets Luka Doncic from nowhere, we can get Myles Garrett and Maxx Crosby. Our main concern is our defense.

[sven233]

Look.....I get it.  We need studs on defense and Garrett would be a great get for the right price.  Beane should absolutely be all over it and no trade should be made with any other team without Beane having the final chance to make it happen.

 

That said, I really want Beane to be all over Maxx Crosby as well.  Man, every interview the guy does, he basically says that he wants to be a Bill without actually saying it.  At least that's what I take out of his interviews!  HA!  He's a couple years younger and is still one of the best in the league.

 

Either one of these guys would fit in great and would be a great addition to the defense.  It really depends on cost, though.  The more I hear about a potential package for these guys, especially for the Bills who pick so low, we are talking about having to give up a player in return that is probably going to sting a little. 

 

Hopefully we can find a way to grab one of those guys without giving away all of our draft capital because I would love to also find a way to get a WR via trade as well.  They would never do it for a lot of reasons, but I would love to get someone like Garrett Wilson (if not him, then someone like him).  We need 2 explosive WRs this offseason.  I want to get one via trade and possibly another in FA depending on who is out there.  I am also wanting to draft one as well.  It's time to get Allen some explosive weapons on the outside to go with Shakir in the slot.  We have nice depth if we re-sign Hollins.  Shakir, Coleman, Hollins, and Samuel are a solid WR3, WR4, WR5 and WR6 but we really need guys that can win on their own and challenge defenses all over the field.

 

Beane has a tough job this offseason for sure.  We all saw the way things unfolded this season and while some of us have seen these weaknesses for a while, our shortcomings were on full display in the Playoffs.  The lack of pass rush.  The lack of a downfield passing game.  It all contributed to the end of our season.  I mean, it really happened all season.  If Allen wasn't playing off script, nothing was happening down the field.  I mean, seriously, can you think of one play that happened on schedule 40+ yards down the field within the structure of the play?  It got so bad by the Chiefs playoff game that every defender was no more than 15-20 yards off the LOS.  They had no respect for any of our WRs and their chances of beating anyone deep.  That has to change.  And we already know about the issues with the pass rush.  It's a lot to solve.  I know Beane loves his picks, but it's time to add some known impact players to this team.