Myles Garrett requests a trade

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

He literally was a wr and safety in highschool. I didn't say he was recruited as a wr... 

 

He didn't play defensive line until his red shirt freshman season. 

 

The point being there's still a potential growth in his game 

You did say he was a freshman wide receiver at Miami 

 

He did not

 

he was on the D line as a freshman while redshirting..  he was on the D line as a true freshman and red shirt freshman 

 

He did play wide receiver and safety in high school

Edited yesterday at 09:16 PM by Buffalo716

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

If we are able to land Garrett, I can see Rousseau having 12-14 sacks....half of them from QB's running away from Myles and into Greg 

He was doing just that the half a season he played with a Von in 2022. Thought he was breaking out.

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Thrivefourfive said:

I’m convinced we’re landing this dude. Is happening. 

Beane did just say before this news that he'd love a game wrecker like Chris Jones but they're never available  (paraphrasing)

well.....Garrett is on that DPOY level 

[stinky finger]

On 2/3/2025 at 11:08 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

Rousseau, a 1 and a 2? Who says no?

[Kelly to Allen]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Rousseau is an all around good edge defender. He’s not elite at anything, hasn’t taken a leap as a pass rusher. 
 

Top pass rushers will sign for $28+ million. He’s not that. Something around $20 million is fair I believe. Cap increases will have edge players over $30 million soon.
 

I was 100% on board with that type of deal, $20 million , but I didn’t like what I saw vs Kansas City. Now I’m hesitant. I still think he’s a good player but I’m more interested in trading him this offseason than signing him. I would love to pair him with an elite pass rusher next year though. So we will see what happens.

 

Who replacing Rousseau?

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, stinky finger said:

 

IMO the Browns won't want hardly any salary back

 

So I'd offer 1st, 1st, 4th to start 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Who replacing Rousseau?

You’re rebuilding the entire DL pretty much if you move on from Rousseau. I think the Bills may consider rebuilding the DL.

[Thrivefourfive]

Just hope McDermott USES HIM, and doesn’t abuse him. Miles Garrett makes everyone else better. Please, McDermott, don’t screw the guy but asking him to win everything without great scheming to utilize his impact on the whole field. Not saying McDermott won’t figure it out, but has he??

[stinky finger]

4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

IMO the Browns won't want hardly any salary back

 

So I'd offer 1st, 1st, 4th to start 

Whatever it takes.

[Kelly to Allen]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

You’re rebuilding the entire DL pretty much if you move on from Rousseau. I think the Bills may consider rebuilding the DL.

 

I'm keeping Oliver and Rousseau. I'm not sure it's possible to get 4 new starters in one year.

 

Now let's assume they get Garrett and it's similar to the mack trade.

 

If you could trade Oliver and Rousseau for a ton of draft capital, yes you could rebuild not just the dline but the entire defense if you hit on the picks. 

 

It's interesting to think about what they would get in return for Rousseau and Oliver 

 

They have real options.

 

Would Dallas accept Oliver, Rousseau and a day 2 pick for Parsons? Idk

 

Interesting to think about 

 

Can you imagine Garrett and Parsons rushing the passer lol

Edited yesterday at 09:31 PM by Kelly to Allen

[Warriorspikes51]

I could see Browns insisting on 3 Firsts as the only way they move him

perhaps we could do 1st, 1st, 2nd that becomes a 1st if we win the Super Bowl in either 2026 or 2027 

[Kelly to Allen]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I could see Browns insisting on 3 Firsts as the only way they move him

perhaps we could do 1st, 1st, 2nd that becomes a 1st if we win the Super Bowl in either 2026 or 2027 

 

Yeah that's not happening. He has a no trade clause 

 

They're going to have to trade him. And it's going to be similar to the mack trade 

Edited yesterday at 09:32 PM by Kelly to Allen

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Yeah that's not happening. He has a no trade clause 

 

Really?  what are the conditions?  He can say I will only accept a trade to ______ these 3 teams? 

[BillsFanForever19]

3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The problem with the Athletic trade is that it doesn't address the $36M in dead money the cap strapped Browns have to create.   Adding $8M+ in payroll with AJE and Elam, both entering walk years when the Browns are basically going to have to tank.......makes no sense for the Browns, IMO.

 

I think the Browns final counter(after failing to get Rousseau thrown in) would be like:

 

2025 #1

2026 #1

2026 #3

for:

 

Myles Garrett ($19M)

Greg Newsome  ($12.5M)

2025 3rd rounder (Bills original from the Cooper trade)

 

There could be many other iterations but my *guess* is that somebody that Garrett would approve of will take Newsome on and offer something similar.   Maybe the Bills throw in Elam to replace Newsome here?  I just don't see them wanting rental AJE for $5.75M in addition to $36M dead money.    I also like my Elam for Mazi Smith bust for bust trade idea as a use for Elam. 

 

That seems pretty low. I know teams don't always get their opening asking or forecasted price.

 

But that's going from 2 1sts plus to well under 2 1sts - when you consider they're also giving us Greg Newsome and a 2025 3rd for our 2026 3rd.

 

The most comparable trade we have to go on is the Khalil Mack trade from the Raiders to the Bears. That was:

 

Raiders get:

 

- 2019 1st 

- 2020 1st 

- 2020 3rd

- 2019 6th

 

Bears get:

 

- Khalil Mack

- 2020 2nd

- 2020 7th

 

So it was basically 2 1st's for Mack alone or just under. Given Newsome is a former 1st Round Pick, starting CB, at age 24 still on his Rookie contract (5th year option), coming off his best season - I don't see us also acquiring him alongside Garrett and also getting the better of swapping our 2026 3rd for their 2025 3rd for just the price of 2 1st's.

 

I'd definitely do that trade. But I think the cost is going to be more than that.

Edited yesterday at 09:46 PM by BillsFanForever19

[Punch]

Considering Garrett has been a good soldier who publicly asked for a trade, I don't think the Browns will play hardball with him. It's a business and they will (and should) maximize the return, but the player has expressed his wishes and earned the right, they're not going to risk it getting ugly.

[Kelly to Allen]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Really?  what are the conditions?  He can say I will only accept a trade to ______ these 3 teams? 

 

 He's going to be traded to a legitimate contender 

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Punch said:

Considering Garrett has been a good soldier who publicly asked for a trade, I don't think the Browns will play hardball with him. It's a business and they will (and should) maximize the return, but the player has expressed his wishes and earned the right, they're not going to risk it getting ugly.

it's the Browns.  It will get ugly

1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

 He's going to be traded to a legitimate contender 

 

so he actually has a clause in his contract that allows him to say...No I won't accept a trade to the Patriots? 

[Kelly to Allen]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

it's the Browns.  It will get ugly

 

so he actually has a clause in his contract that allows him to say...No I won't accept a trade to the Patriots? 

 Yes. He has a no trade clause 

[Warriorspikes51]

Lions, Eagles, Commanders, Bills would be teams that make the most sense IMO 

unlikely he's being traded to the Ravens unless there is a massive offer 

[Kelly to Allen]

31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

You did say he was a freshman wide receiver at Miami 

 

He did not

 

he was on the D line as a freshman while redshirting..  he was on the D line as a true freshman and red shirt freshman 

 

He did play wide receiver and safety in high school

 

He was potentially a wr in his freshman year at Miami. There was talks of moving him to dline. They didn't fully move him to dline until later in his freshman season when he was dominant in practice....I have to find the quote, but his coaching staff wasn't exactly sure where he would play even after he had practiced on the dline. He was a wr / s in highschool. He permanently moved to dline in the fall of his freshman season but redshirted. 

 

He was an all state wr in highschool 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 09:47 PM by Kelly to Allen