T master Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 9:44 AM, SoonerBillsFan said: We keep talking about DL, and yes we need an upgrade, but maybe we focus on the secondary instead? We have one of the top nickle corners in the NFL, so why not load up on top DB talent and go that route? Emphasize a big 1. Tech DT who can penetrate so he and Oliver can provide pressure up the middle, while we lock down other teams WR's? I say let McDermott make the decisions on what DB'S he wants, not Beane as he is a DB whisperer. Before you ping me negatively, think about it and cut me some slack...I have the freaking flu. Apparently Oklahoma is leading the nation in Flu cases right now. 😒 Sounds like what they did with Tre,Hyde, & Po pretty much but unfortunately guys get older & lose a step and here we are it's just finding those type of players 2.0 . I think Benford could be a part of it but the safety position is not nearly what it was, Cole got some good reps this season and i think will be a starter next year & then another really good CB possibly in FA . I wish they would have given Edwards more reps when he finally got healthy but he wanted to play can't blame him for that he thought that's why they brought him here & knowing the Chiefs the way he did might have been the extra they needed . 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 2 hours ago, T master said: Sounds like what they did with Tre,Hyde, & Po pretty much but unfortunately guys get older & lose a step and here we are it's just finding those type of players 2.0 . I think Benford could be a part of it but the safety position is not nearly what it was, Cole got some good reps this season and i think will be a starter next year & then another really good CB possibly in FA . I wish they would have given Edwards more reps when he finally got healthy but he wanted to play can't blame him for that he thought that's why they brought him here & knowing the Chiefs the way he did might have been the extra they needed . Benford and and Cole will start. We need 2 additions via FA. I don't want to wait on Rookies. 1 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 I have DT, DE, CB, and WR as the big starting needs the team needs. With Safety as a top depth need. So I suspect the draft and free agency to be a lot heavier on the defensive side. Quote
NoSaint Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/3/2025 at 11:34 AM, MJS said: The Seahawks became the Seahawks back then by having two or three really good drafts in a row. It wasn't just the secondary. They got a lot of good players on both sides of the ball. yea, I mean cliff avril was a good pass rusher. Bruce Irvin. Michael Bennett. At linebacker they had Bobby Wagner and kj wright. I think finding Josh a WR may be easier than finding 7 defenders 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/3/2025 at 10:44 AM, SoonerBillsFan said: We keep talking about DL, and yes we need an upgrade, but maybe we focus on the secondary instead? We have one of the top nickle corners in the NFL, so why not load up on top DB talent and go that route? Emphasize a big 1. Tech DT who can penetrate so he and Oliver can provide pressure up the middle, while we lock down other teams WR's? I say let McDermott make the decisions on what DB'S he wants, not Beane as he is a DB whisperer. Before you ping me negatively, think about it and cut me some slack...I have the freaking flu. Apparently Oklahoma is leading the nation in Flu cases right now. 😒 Great idea! I mean it worked just so well in the past. Feel better!!! 1 Quote
ganesh Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/3/2025 at 9:24 PM, PoundingDog said: Easier said than done. Which one of the 32 teams would not jump on that? Also, they will have to compare what they can get (FA or Draft) to what they have (Jones) and decide if incumbent is better. I think we need better Pass Rush. Can Solomon provide that spark Quote
Augie Posted February 5 Posted February 5 I wonder about the “Seahawks old approach”. Are their fans still tormented and resentful about throwing the ball at the goal line instead of handing it to Marshawn Lynch to win the Super Bowl? Is that their 13 seconds? Ours was “just” the AFCCG. Time does not change anything, but the sting lessens. The better you can get over it the happier you will be. Quote
Rigotz Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/3/2025 at 10:44 AM, Kelly to Allen said: Chris Brown and tasker said the secondary and dline is going to be overhauled. I personally hope they draft 3 CBS and 2 safeties Having the best CBs and Safeties in the league does absolutely nothing if you can't get pressure on Mahomes, Burrow, and Jackson. On the contrary, if you have an elite defensive line, your can stand average DB play. The game is won and lost in the trenches. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted February 6 Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Augie said: I wonder about the “Seahawks old approach”. Are their fans still tormented and resentful about throwing the ball at the goal line instead of handing it to Marshawn Lynch to win the Super Bowl? Is that their 13 seconds? Ours was “just” the AFCCG. Time does not change anything, but the sting lessens. The better you can get over it the happier you will be. I remember feeling numb after that moment of the Seahawks SB loss ….so no doubt the feelings of actual Seahawks fans would have been multiples worse … Still ,,,they at least won it the year before Quote
harmonkillebrew Posted February 6 Posted February 6 I think that makes sense. Hard to get a consistent rush on Mahomes with that quick release and how the Chiefs play the short passing game now. Problem is the Bills have whiffed on some DBs of late. Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 6 Posted February 6 I 've always said I could get open on an NFL CB if you give the QB enough time as I, the WR know where I'm going and the DB doesn't. BTW I'll be 70 this year! Quote
reddogblitz Posted February 6 Posted February 6 The Legion of Doom also held on every play and challenged the refs to call a penalty on every play which of course they were not going to do. Quote
NoSaint Posted February 6 Posted February 6 16 hours ago, Augie said: I wonder about the “Seahawks old approach”. Are their fans still tormented and resentful about throwing the ball at the goal line instead of handing it to Marshawn Lynch to win the Super Bowl? Is that their 13 seconds? Ours was “just” the AFCCG. Time does not change anything, but the sting lessens. The better you can get over it the happier you will be. they at least got a championship still i doubt that makes that pass better, but perhaps a little less focused on as it was not the pinnacle of their achievement Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Can we just watch and see what Philly does. I know they have better players, but the two big dudes in the middle of that line will wreck this game for Mahomes. He may still oull it out, or he may not even finish if those guy pummel him, like we have absolutely no prayer of ever doing with Beane and McDermott. 1 Quote
BillsPride12 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 41 minutes ago, NoSaint said: they at least got a championship still i doubt that makes that pass better, but perhaps a little less focused on as it was not the pinnacle of their achievement 14 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: I remember feeling numb after that moment of the Seahawks SB loss ….so no doubt the feelings of actual Seahawks fans would have been multiples worse … Still ,,,they at least won it the year before If they didn't win the Super Bowl the year before that goes down as just as painful of a moment in NFL history as Wide Right 1 Quote
BillsVet Posted February 6 Posted February 6 It's not cost-effective to maintain with significant investment an entire defensive unit. Those Seattle teams had so many high picks, UFAs, and contract extensions, yet only offered a 5 year window even with Russell Wilson, who admittedly was not easy to scheme an offense with. Every year we discuss addressing what was weak the previous season and this off-season is no different. Secondary, DL, perhaps LB's. Then, at playoff time the offense is scrambling to score points in the Divisional Round and later as the defense struggles. Their solution in 2024 was to slow the offense down to keep the defense off the field which worked well through the Wild Card Round matchup. Patching holes isn't cutting it anymore and they need a course correction in overall strategy. I doubt it'll happen, but they did it their way and came up short again. I'd also consider that their franchise QB is coming up for a contract after 2025 and keeping him is an absolute necessity. Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 6 Posted February 6 On 2/5/2025 at 4:17 AM, Bill from NYC said: Great idea! I mean it worked just so well in the past. Feel better!!! Bro, I'm a line of scrimmage guy myself, but when you got guys like Mahomo and Burrow in the conference, you need guys in the secondary who can play too. It's gonna take a mixture of both, which I'm not sold on Beane being able to do. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 'Maybe we should copy the Seahawks old approach?' Like replacing the red in the Buffalo uniforms with a really bad day-glow pink? That third Seattle uniform looks like they're refugees from a construction site. Quote
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