Maybe we should copy the Seahawks old approach?

[SoonerBillsFan]

We keep talking about DL, and yes we need an upgrade, but maybe we focus on the secondary instead?

 

We have one of the top nickle corners in the NFL, so why not load up on top DB talent and go that route?

 

Emphasize a big 1. Tech DT who can penetrate so he and Oliver can provide pressure up the middle, while we lock down other teams WR's?

 

I say let McDermott make the decisions on what DB'S he wants, not Beane as he is a DB whisperer.

 

Before you ping me negatively, think about it and cut me some slack...I have the freaking flu. Apparently Oklahoma is leading the nation in Flu cases right now. 😒

Edited 2 hours ago by SoonerBillsFan

[Kelly to Allen]

Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:

We keep talking about DL, amd yes we need an upgrade, but maybe we focus on the secondary instead?

 

We have one of the top nickle corners in the NFL, so why not load up on top DB talent amd go that route?

 

Emphasize a big 1. Tech DT who can penetrate so he and Oliver can provide pressure up the middle, while we lock down other teams WR's?

 

I say let McDermott make the decisions on what DB'S he wants, not Beane as he is a DB whisperer.

 

Before you ping me negatively, think about it and cut me some slack...I have the freaking flu. Apparently Oklahoma is leading the nation in Flu cases right now. 😒

 

Chris Brown and tasker said the secondary and dline is going to be overhauled. 

 

I personally hope they draft 3 CBS and 2 safeties 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[colin]

Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:

We keep talking about DL, amd yes we need an upgrade, but maybe we focus on the secondary instead?

 

We have one of the top nickle corners in the NFL, so why not load up on top DB talent amd go that route?

 

Emphasize a big 1. Tech DT who can penetrate so he and Oliver can provide pressure up the middle, while we lock down other teams WR's?

 

I say let McDermott make the decisions on what DB'S he wants, not Beane as he is a DB whisperer.

 

Before you ping me negatively, think about it and cut me some slack...I have the freaking flu. Apparently Oklahoma is leading the nation in Flu cases right now. 😒

 

HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT YOU FOOL!

 

lol, seriously I think that's the lowest hanging fruit.  we've re done our secondary in the past with good results, just make it not suck and add talent to the O so we score 7-10 extra in the KC game.

[JP51]

Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:

We keep talking about DL, amd yes we need an upgrade, but maybe we focus on the secondary instead?

 

We have one of the top nickle corners in the NFL, so why not load up on top DB talent amd go that route?

 

Emphasize a big 1. Tech DT who can penetrate so he and Oliver can provide pressure up the middle, while we lock down other teams WR's?

 

I say let McDermott make the decisions on what DB'S he wants, not Beane as he is a DB whisperer.

 

Before you ping me negatively, think about it and cut me some slack...I have the freaking flu. Apparently Oklahoma is leading the nation in Flu cases right now. 😒

I aint gonna ping ya... they feed on each other, lock down 2ndry helps the pass rush and vice versa... in the end, I am more looking for a game wrecking DL because you cant throw away from him and they have more of an opporiunity to impact the game on a play to play basis... but what you say isnt wrong,,, I would just approach it different...  

[PoundingDog]

8 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Emphasize a big 1. Tech DT who can penetrate

Easier said than done. Which one of the 32 teams would not jump on that?

[Sweats]

I'd like a secondary that plays "proactive" and not "reactive", but you need guys with experience to be able to play that way........guys who have the experience to be able to read QB's eyes, tendencies, etc. and be able to project what play is coming or where the ball is going.

 

We play way too much "reactive" ball and give up a ton of yardage due to our "bend, but don't break" philosophy and in the long run when you want to tighten things up in the post season, i don't know how you can possibly win like this.

[BarleyNY]

2 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:

Easier said than done. Which one of the 32 teams would not jump on that?

Exactly. Complete 1 techs that can play the run and get to the QB are rare. Doubly so for those that are true difference makers. Obviously you grab one if you can, but you’ll wanna be ready with a Plan B. 

[streetkings01]

Defense definitely needs an overhaul. 
 

Secondary: Rapp, Bishop, Johnson & Benford.

 

Secondary Needs: Stud safety, starting corner and depth(safety & corner)

 

Dline: Rousseau, Oliver, Epenesa

Dline Needs: Stud pass rusher, big space eating DL that demands double team and depth(DE & DT).

 

Offensively I think we can get away with just adding a receiver that can stretch the field and hope Coleman, Kincaid and Samuels take a big step in 2025.

[Brand J]

The only DL and secondary defenders I can see here for the next few years are Oliver, Solomon, Carter, Benford, Johnson, and Bishop. Everyone else can be replaced/upgraded.

Edited 2 hours ago by Brand J

[SoonerBillsFan]

10 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Defense definitely needs an overhaul. 
 

Secondary: Rapp, Bishop, Johnson & Benford.

 

Secondary Needs: Stud safety, starting corner and depth(safety & corner)

 

Dline: Rousseau, Oliver, Epenesa

Dline Needs: Stud pass rusher, big space eating DL that demands double team and depth(DE & DT).

 

Offensively I think we can get away with just adding a receiver that can stretch the field and hope Coleman, Kincaid and Samuels take a big step in 2025.

Agreed. Just get a guy to can split the safeties and stretch the field and the offense is done.

[HoofHearted]

28 minutes ago, Sweats said:

I'd like a secondary that plays "proactive" and not "reactive", but you need guys with experience to be able to play that way........guys who have the experience to be able to read QB's eyes, tendencies, etc. and be able to project what play is coming or where the ball is going.

 

We play way too much "reactive" ball and give up a ton of yardage due to our "bend, but don't break" philosophy and in the long run when you want to tighten things up in the post season, i don't know how you can possibly win like this.

Defense is reactive by nature. Guessing gets you beat. Could we react faster? Surely. Our issue defensively is we lack overall speed and quickness. We are not very good playing man, which makes it extremely difficult to call a defense.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Josh Allen gets a Subway sandwich named for him? 🤔

[Nihilarian]

Imagine a team with top 5 pass rush and a top-5 good secondary...

 

Now, to all the complainers, the current team has a bad defense...yet,  13-4, and 3 points away from a Super Bowl. This team is one or two players away IMHO.

[2003Contenders]

I agree -- especially with the part about letting McD make the call on who he wants at DB. IIRC Hyde, Poyer and Tre all came aboard in McD's first season back in 2017, and all three made an immediate impact. Hyde and Poyer were prudent FA pickups that did not break the bank, and Tre was a rookie. I would LOVE to see something like that happen again this off-season.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

The game has evolved from the days of the Legion of Boom. The rule book, offensive personnel and scheme have all changed in ways that I am not so sure this is a recipe for success anymore. 

[T.E.]

All those picks and resources allocated to the defense, and the line and secondary are still in constant states of flux.

 

Starting to get tiresome. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The personnel is NOT the issue with this defense. If you brought in a good DC right now, the currently constructed group would be lights out. The coaching of our defense is an inexcusable disgrace 

[Governor]

Beane has to do both in one offseason or he’s toast. He knows that.

[MJS]

The Seahawks became the Seahawks back then by having two or three really good drafts in a row. It wasn't just the secondary. They got a lot of good players on both sides of the ball.

[78thealltimegreat]

Offense only needs a speed receiver and maybe a Cooper resign if it’s the right price. 

That means a defense heavy off season and boy do they need it.