JDHillFan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Just now, daz28 said: I didn't say any were, but most people agree that subsidizing electric cars for global warming, and chargers for a grid that can't handle it were. Only fanbois would disagree. Who do you blame for this?
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Who do you blame for this? Who do you blame? Only the people who granted it, or them AND the guy who profited from it?
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 1 minute ago, daz28 said: Who do you blame? Only the people who granted it, or them AND the guy who profited from it? The government hands out absurd contracts to many, many entities. Are they all bad and robbing from the government? Maybe the problem lies with the absurd contracts. You are acting tonight as though the US government is a victim. That’s not an argument you hear often. Also: 1 1
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Just now, JDHillFan said: The government hands out absurd contracts to many, many entities. Are they all bad and robbing from the government? Maybe the problem lies with the absurd contracts. You are acting tonight as though the US government is a victim. That’s not an argument you hear often. Also: Not at all. The argument that Elon should have grifted an incompetent govt, because he could, isn't one I'm willing to hear. Do you think Telsa is a company that will have long-term success? Success that the government should have invested in if global warming is a hoax, and that it should be building chargers on a grid, that can't handle it?
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, daz28 said: Not at all. The argument that Elon should have grifted an incompetent govt, because he could, isn't one I'm willing to hear. Do you think Telsa is a company that will have long-term success? Success that the government should have invested in if global warming is a hoax, and that it should be building chargers on a grid, that can't handle it? I strongly believe they will have long term success. They innovate. Technologies change and mature. Musk owned companies will be at the forefront of it. That’s already been proven. Whether the planet cools, heats, or stays the same, they will have a market. It will never be the all EV world pipe dream the eco-warriors are interested in. What’s the bottom line to your argument? You seem to be all over the place without actually saying a single thing.
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I strongly believe they will have long term success. They innovate. Technologies change and mature. Musk owned companies will be at the forefront of it. That’s already been proven. Whether the planet cools, heats, or stays the same, they will have a market. It will never be the all EV world pipe dream the eco-warriors are interested in. What’s the bottom line to your argument? You seem to be all over the place without actually saying a single thing. Elon's green grift is over(hopefully). Just reminding his fans about what they had forgotten. When he saves us double what he took, then we can discuss forgiveness. Officials are "immediately suspending" approval for all state plans funded by the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) program, a $5 billion initiative to build a network of EV chargers across the US, according to a memo to state transport directors released on Thursday. The memo said leaders at the Transportation Department had "decided to review the policies underlying" the implementation of the NEVI program, with updated draft guidance due to be published this spring. Until then, "no new obligations may occur" under the NEVI program, a move which puts plans to build EV chargers across multiple states announced late last year into limbo. With the scarcity of EV chargers still one of the main concerns putting people off buying electric vehicles, the dismantling of the program will likely be a major blow for EV adoption in the US — and for Tesla, which has been one of NEVI's biggest beneficiaries.
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: Elon's green grift is over(hopefully). Just reminding his fans about what they had forgotten. When he saves us double what he took, then we can discuss forgiveness. Officials are "immediately suspending" approval for all state plans funded by the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) program, a $5 billion initiative to build a network of EV chargers across the US, according to a memo to state transport directors released on Thursday. The memo said leaders at the Transportation Department had "decided to review the policies underlying" the implementation of the NEVI program, with updated draft guidance due to be published this spring. Until then, "no new obligations may occur" under the NEVI program, a move which puts plans to build EV chargers across multiple states announced late last year into limbo. With the scarcity of EV chargers still one of the main concerns putting people off buying electric vehicles, the dismantling of the program will likely be a major blow for EV adoption in the US — and for Tesla, which has been one of NEVI's biggest beneficiaries. How does this play with the whole Musk is the real president story that liberals like to tell themselves? Seems a juxtaposition.
Chaos Posted February 8 Posted February 8 The USAID scandal is the worst scandal in US political. People supporting the people who stole from the taxpayers simply reveal themselves as pure partisan political hacks. 1
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: How does this play with the whole Musk is the real president story that liberals like to tell themselves? Seems a juxtaposition. Musk is trumps play toy. I have no idea how anyone thinks Elon's above him. I think it ends badly for Musk. 1
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 7 minutes ago, Chaos said: The USAID scandal is the worst scandal in US political. People supporting the people who stole from the taxpayers simply reveal themselves as pure partisan political hacks. It will probably seem inconsequential in terms of dollars once they look at the pentagon, Medicare, Medicaid, social security. 2 1
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Just now, Chaos said: The USAID scandal is the worst scandal in US political. People supporting the people who stole from the taxpayers simply reveal themselves as pure partisan political hacks. LOL. Wait until you see what was going on with the REAL money. The corruption at the Pentagon and foreign aid makes that look like nothing. USAID's budget is $40B. Peanuts! The real question is, why do we keep funneling hundreds of billions more into this black hole: The Pentagon, which houses the United States Department of Defense (DoD), failed its financial audit again, marking the seventh consecutive year of such failure. This latest audit revealed that the DoD could not account for 60% of its $4.1 trillion in assets. This amounts to a staggering $2.46 trillion that remains unaccounted for. The DoD’s inability to track such a vast sum of money underscores significant financial mismanagement within the department. The failed audits themselves cost $175M. That's A LOT of drag shows.
BillsFanNC Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 USAID has pushed nearly half a billion dollars ($472.6m) through a secretive US government financed NGO, "Internews Network" (IN), which has “worked with” 4,291 media outlets, producing in one year 4,799 hours of broadcasts reaching up to 778 million people and "training” over 9000 journalists (2023 figures). IN has also supported social media censorship initiatives. The operation claims “offices” in over 30 countries, including main offices in US, London, Paris and regional HQs in Kiev, Bangkok and Nairobi. It is headed up by Jeanne Bourgault, who pays herself $451k a year. Bourgault worked out of the US embassy in Moscow during the early 1990s, where she was in charge of a $250m budget, and in other revolts or conflicts at critical times, before formally rotating out of six years at USAID to IN. Bourgault’s IN bio and those of its other key people and board members have been recently scrubbed from its website but remain accessible at archive.org. Records show the board being co-chaired by Democrat securocrat Richard J. Kessler and Simone Otus Coxe, wife of NVIDIA billionaire Trench Coxe, both major Democratic donors. In 2023, supported by Hillary Clinton, Bourgault launched a $10m IN fund at the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI). The IN page showing a picture of Bourgault at the CGI has also been deleted. IN has at least six captive subsidiaries under unrelated names including one based out of the Cayman Islands. Since 2008, when electronic records begin, more than 95% of IN's budget has been supplied by the US government (thread follows)
aristocrat Posted February 8 Posted February 8 9 hours ago, daz28 said: Elon's green grift is over(hopefully). Just reminding his fans about what they had forgotten. When he saves us double what he took, then we can discuss forgiveness. Officials are "immediately suspending" approval for all state plans funded by the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) program, a $5 billion initiative to build a network of EV chargers across the US, according to a memo to state transport directors released on Thursday. The memo said leaders at the Transportation Department had "decided to review the policies underlying" the implementation of the NEVI program, with updated draft guidance due to be published this spring. Until then, "no new obligations may occur" under the NEVI program, a move which puts plans to build EV chargers across multiple states announced late last year into limbo. With the scarcity of EV chargers still one of the main concerns putting people off buying electric vehicles, the dismantling of the program will likely be a major blow for EV adoption in the US — and for Tesla, which has been one of NEVI's biggest beneficiaries. you do know Elon is against the ev subsidies right? Gm ford and other companies need them cause they lose so much money on the cars. Tesla can survive without them. 1
JFKjr Posted February 8 Posted February 8 13 hours ago, daz28 said: I'd like it done in a comprehensive manner. Some of this is throwing the baby out with the bath water. You're defending slash and burn, while attempting to condemn anyone who disagrees with that approach. Yes the baby NEEDS to go out with the bathwater! With an organization this corrupt you need to cut it down to the foundation and start over or eliminate it entirely. I don't condemn you, I feel sorry for you that it isn't evident to you.
BillsFanNC Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 Seems totally legit. USAID taxpayer money funneled to orgs like Internews to put pressure on advertisers to only support outlets that produce "good news and information" 1
BillsFanNC Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 Roundy: People are going to DIE!!!!! And it's only $5 billion or 0.007% of the budget you morons!
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