daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: What kind of person looks at the fraud and starts to argue about whose fault it is when the answer is "all of them on Capitol Hill". We are looking at trillions of dollars of waste and fraud and you guys only want to fight those trying to reign it in. You guys are coming off like delusional fans of a sports team, the GOP is not my team unless they are doing what is right trump prefaces every single comment with why everything was Bidens fault, so I guess him. He's that kind of person. I find that amusing, because you'd be hard pressed to find a larger instance in fraud in anything around government, than trumps Covid relief plan. Also, if one party is more corrupt than the other, I'd like to know. I'm finding it hard to believe it's all the Democrats fault, AS THEY'RE SAYING, not me. House controls the budget, and Republicans controlled it 12-4.
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 20 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Before going after the maggats (clever!), make sure you have your numbers right. I wouldn’t want you to look silly. I don't see any error in the numbers. Why would making a mistake make me "look silly"? Everyone makes mistakes.
JDHillFan Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: trump prefaces every single comment with why everything was Bidens fault, so I guess him. He's that kind of person. I find that amusing, because you'd be hard pressed to find a larger instance in fraud in anything around government, than trumps Covid relief plan. Also, if one party is more corrupt than the other, I'd like to know. I'm finding it hard to believe it's all the Democrats fault, AS THEY'RE SAYING, not me. House controls the budget, and Republicans controlled it 12-4. Are you absolutely certain about 12-4? You’ve said it twice now. 3 strikes and… please don’t say your numbers hinge on the current congressional session. That would be rather disingenuous don’t you think? 1 minute ago, daz28 said: I don't see any error in the numbers. Why would making a mistake make me "look silly"? Everyone makes mistakes. You like to post with an air of authority. It’s incumbent on you to get it right.
nedboy7 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 14 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: What kind of person looks at the fraud and starts to argue about whose fault it is when the answer is "all of them on Capitol Hill". We are looking at trillions of dollars of waste and fraud and you guys only want to fight those trying to reign it in. You guys are coming off like delusional fans of a sports team, the GOP is not my team unless they are doing what is right What kind of person looks at Trump's history or his words and thinks that is the guy who is going to fix everything. Oh this institution has fraud so lets get rid of it. I am not a liberal. But I know when someone is trying to bring an autocratic government that is not controlled by laws or a justice system. So save your BS. All of them on Capitol Hill includes Trump and his new cronies.
Orlando Buffalo Posted February 12 Posted February 12 18 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: What kind of person looks at Trump's history or his words and thinks that is the guy who is going to fix everything. Oh this institution has fraud so lets get rid of it. I am not a liberal. But I know when someone is trying to bring an autocratic government that is not controlled by laws or a justice system. So save your BS. All of them on Capitol Hill includes Trump and his new cronies. The guy removing governmental power is an autocrat? If you want insult Trump go ahead but try not to contradict yourself in the same sentence.
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 27 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Are you absolutely certain about 12-4? You’ve said it twice now. 3 strikes and… please don’t say your numbers hinge on the current congressional session. That would be rather disingenuous don’t you think? You like to post with an air of authority. It’s incumbent on you to get it right. They literally have a budget on their desks as we speak. Do you otherwise agree with the premise, or are you just doing some chatroom laundry? Edited February 12 by daz28
JDHillFan Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, daz28 said: They literally have a budget on their desks as we speak. You got the numbers wrong. It’s ok to admit it.
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: The guy removing governmental power is an autocrat? If you want insult Trump go ahead but try not to contradict yourself in the same sentence. Autocrat is pretty accurate. How else could you have the power to remove power? 3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: You got the numbers wrong. It’s ok to admit it. I get your point, that it's early in this session, but my statement was still accurate and factual. Furthermore, the premise of this was good, and no one seems to want to touch that part.
Orlando Buffalo Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: Autocrat is pretty accurate. How else could you have the power to remove power? So you believe he is going to take all that money and give it to his political allies or will he use it to pay down the debt? If he does the former I will agree but taking power from he beauracracy is the opposite of an autocrat.
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: So you believe he is going to take all that money and give it to his political allies or will he use it to pay down the debt? If he does the former I will agree but taking power from he beauracracy is the opposite of an autocrat. No. He's going to use it for tax cuts for billionaires and corporations. That's already a known fact.
JDHillFan Posted February 12 Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, daz28 said: get your point, that it's early in this session, but my statement was still accurate and factual. Furthermore, the premise of this was good, and no one seems to want to touch that part. It’s not accurate or factual. You stated that democrats have had control for only 4 of the last 16 sessions. That’s inaccurate and fact-free and you were trying to dunk on “maggats” with it. Very weak. The premise wasn’t good. It sucked. You are whining that people are picking on “fraud/waste/corruption from democrats” as you phrased it. You’re wrong. It’s not fraud/waste/corruption from democrats. It’s from government entities in general. How is that difficult to comprehend? It just so happens that it’s democrats that are showing themselves to be very upset about it all. Very unusual. They must have a reason. You are under the impression that because people generally hate democrats right now that they support republicans and past republican malfeasance. You couldn’t be more off the mark. 1
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 12 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: It’s not accurate or factual. You stated that democrats have had control for only 4 of the last 16 sessions. That’s inaccurate and fact-free and you were trying to dunk on “maggats” with it. Very weak. The premise wasn’t good. It sucked. You are whining that people are picking on “fraud/waste/corruption from democrats” as you phrased it. You’re wrong. It’s not fraud/waste/corruption from democrats. It’s from government entities in general. How is that difficult to comprehend? It just so happens that it’s democrats that are showing themselves to be very upset about it all. Very unusual. They must have a reason. You are under the impression that because people generally hate democrats right now that they support republicans and past republican malfeasance. You couldn’t be more off the mark. I don't know if you're butthurt over maggats, or just don't like how I post, but the mature thing to do when you see a mistake, is bring it to their attention. If you haven't made a mistake, then go ahead and cast that first stone. For what all that is worth, what I said is factual. I'll post it. the first column is House: I agree the corruption is both parties, but that's not the narrative the GQP is spewing. You almost admitted that, then say the Dems are "acting guilty". Quit being a clown. I'm under the impression that people support republicans ,because they have a trifecta. 104th (1995–1997)RepublicansRepublicansDemocrat (Clinton)Divided 105th (1997–1999)RepublicansRepublicansDemocrat (Clinton)Divided 106th (1999–2001)RepublicansRepublicansDemocrat (Clinton)Divided 107th (2001–2003)RepublicansRepublicans / Democrats12Republican (G.W. Bush)Unified / Divided 108th (2003–2005)RepublicansRepublicansRepublican (G.W. Bush)Unified 109th (2005–2007)RepublicansRepublicansRepublican (G.W. Bush)Unified 110th (2007–2009)DemocratsDemocrats13Republican (G.W. Bush)Divided 111th (2009–2011)DemocratsDemocratsDemocrat (Obama)Unified 112th (2011–2013)RepublicansDemocratsDemocrat (Obama)Divided 113th (2013–2015)RepublicansDemocratsDemocrat (Obama)Divided 114th (2015–2017)RepublicansRepublicansDemocrat (Obama)Divided 115th (2017–2019)RepublicansRepublicansRepublican (Trump)Unified 116th (2019–2021)DemocratsRepublicansRepublican (Trump)Divided 117th (2021–2023)DemocratsDemocrats14Democrat (Biden)Unified 118th (2023–2025)RepublicansDemocratsDemocrat (Biden)Divided 119th (2025–2027)RepublicansRepublicansRepublican (Trump)Unified
JDHillFan Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: I don't know if you're butthurt over maggats, or just don't like how I post, but the mature thing to do when you see a mistake, is bring it to their attention. If you haven't made a mistake, then go ahead and cast that first stone. For what all that is worth, what I said is factual. I'll post it. the first column is House: I agree the corruption is both parties, but that's not the narrative the GQP is spewing. You almost admitted that, then say the Dems are "acting guilty". Quit being a clown. I'm under the impression that people support republicans ,because they have a trifecta. 104th (1995–1997)RepublicansRepublicansDemocrat (Clinton)Divided 105th (1997–1999)RepublicansRepublicansDemocrat (Clinton)Divided 106th (1999–2001)RepublicansRepublicansDemocrat (Clinton)Divided 107th (2001–2003)RepublicansRepublicans / Democrats12Republican (G.W. Bush)Unified / Divided 108th (2003–2005)RepublicansRepublicansRepublican (G.W. Bush)Unified 109th (2005–2007)RepublicansRepublicansRepublican (G.W. Bush)Unified 110th (2007–2009)DemocratsDemocrats13Republican (G.W. Bush)Divided 111th (2009–2011)DemocratsDemocratsDemocrat (Obama)Unified 112th (2011–2013)RepublicansDemocratsDemocrat (Obama)Divided 113th (2013–2015)RepublicansDemocratsDemocrat (Obama)Divided 114th (2015–2017)RepublicansRepublicansDemocrat (Obama)Divided 115th (2017–2019)RepublicansRepublicansRepublican (Trump)Unified 116th (2019–2021)DemocratsRepublicansRepublican (Trump)Divided 117th (2021–2023)DemocratsDemocrats14Democrat (Biden)Unified 118th (2023–2025)RepublicansDemocratsDemocrat (Biden)Divided 119th (2025–2027)RepublicansRepublicansRepublican (Trump)Unified Your original statement was not factual, it was wrong. You have a habit of making wrong statements and then twisting yourself into knots to make it look like you were right. Think “a movement of 1 million American nazis” or your disastrous takes on the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. The one thing you will not do, is own up to it when you vomit inaccurate information.
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Your original statement was not factual, it was wrong. You have a habit of making wrong statements and then twisting yourself into knots to make it look like you were right. Think “a movement of 1 million American nazis” or your disastrous takes on the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. The one thing you will not do, is own up to it when you vomit inaccurate information. What was not factual about my statement? Do you have a concept of a plan of explaining what's wrong with it? ...and quit trying to fall back on something that you were also wrong about as evidence of anything. You don't know a single thing about fascism in the 30-40's in America. Lastly, while playing gotcha might be quaint and cute with some posters here, it don't do it for me. Grow up. Edited February 12 by daz28
JDHillFan Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, daz28 said: What was not factual about my statement? Do you have a concept of a plan of explaining what's wrong with it? You said that democrats only controlled (read carefully now) 4 of the last 16 sessions. That is the opposite of factual.
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: You said that democrats only controlled (read carefully now) 4 of the last 16 sessions. That is the opposite of factual. How so?? Will you get on with it already. Better yet, does what you're trying to do change the point I was trying to make? Edited February 12 by daz28
JDHillFan Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, daz28 said: How so?? Will you get on with it already. Good heavens. The last 16 sessions, by any use of the language, include 8 during the Obama era, 4 during Agent Orange 1.0, and 4 during the tenure of the “spry for his age” President Brandon. The esteemed speaker for two years during each of those era’s was Aunt Nan, the wine lover from SF.
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Good heavens. The last 16 sessions, by any use of the language, include 8 during the Obama era, 4 during Agent Orange 1.0, and 4 during the tenure of the “spry for his age” President Brandon. The esteemed speaker for two years during each of those era’s was Aunt Nan, the wine lover from SF. So this was all about counting the current session? LOL Go do some dishes or something.
nedboy7 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Orlando Buffalo said: The guy removing governmental power is an autocrat? If you want insult Trump go ahead but try not to contradict yourself in the same sentence. You clearly don't get it. Yes. How does an autocrat get absolute power? Like this... JD Vance, the US vice-president, has been accused of threatening the US constitution after telling judges who have issued rulings temporarily blocking some of Donald Trump’s most contentious executive orders that they “aren’t allowed” to control the president’s “legitimate power”. “If a judge tried to tell a general how to conduct a military operation, that would be illegal,” he wrote. “If a judge tried to command the attorney general in how to use her discretion as a prosecutor, that’s also illegal. Judges aren’t allowed to control the executive’s legitimate power.” In fact, article III of the US constitution confers a power known as judicial review, which gives federal judges the authority to rule on cases involving the president, as well as other branches of government.
JDHillFan Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, daz28 said: So this was all about counting the current session? LOL Go do some dishes or something. It was about your words. They were wrong. When dunking, it’s critical that one have their sh*t together. You failed miserably.
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