Market Performance - Orange Menace vs Brandonomics

[SectionC3]

8 minutes ago, B-Man said:

I look forward to the mea culpas when the market inevitably rises 

 

 

 

Oh who am I kidding, they’ll just scamper away and hide 

 

😆

Even dead cats bounce, right?  I hope it picks up.  But this guy is wrecking confidence with his whiplash.  

9 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

This is such a nothing burger at this point, there is uncertainty with all the tariffs etc. and people do not like that in investing. Once the dust settles on everything in a few months everything will be back fine.

Like it was under Biden, you mean? 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

24 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Even dead cats bounce, right?  I hope it picks up.  But this guy is wrecking confidence with his whiplash.  

Like it was under Biden, you mean? 

The good old days 

[JDHillFan]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

Like it was under Biden, you mean? 

The markets had better returns under Orange 1.0 than under Biden. Even though “you think” it was better under Biden once yearly compounding is factored in. Got data on that?

[LDD]

1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said:

This is such a nothing burger at this point, there is uncertainty with all the tariffs etc. and people do not like that in investing. Once the dust settles on everything in a few months everything will be back fine.

 

Is "when the dust clears" the point that all this crap actually affects things?

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

The markets had better returns under Orange 1.0 than under Biden. Even though “you think” it was better under Biden once yearly compounding is factored in. Got data on that?

No matter whether your point is true, the data shows that Trump took a good thing under Biden and has, so far, screwed it up.  Royally. 

[nedboy7]

Aren’t you the moron who called everyone a communist last 4 years. You must feel like a deuche now. 

[Big Blitz]

28 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

No matter whether your point is true, the data shows that Trump took a good thing under Biden and has, so far, screwed it up.  Royally. 

 

What was the Stock Market’s P/E Ratio when Trump took office?

 

Yep.  Trump definitely did this:
https://www.currentmarketvaluation.com/models/price-earnings.php
 

 

 

Intellectually honest people will tell you these hard truths:

 

We are still recovering from the Great Recession 

 

We recovered the stock market - and rescued big business and the banks.  
 

Americans got by on zero interest that was used to help keep us afloat.  
 

The Federal government’s spending was never reigned in.  
 

Covid immediately created (Democrat Covidian Globalists did) a 10 plus year financial ticking time bomb where inflation - significant inflation was inevitable.  
 

The stock market is grossly overvalued.  
 

We warned you.  No one listened.  
 

Going into 2020, the country was poised to legitimately recover from 2008.  
 

 

Democrat Covid Globalists refused to let that happen.   

[JDHillFan]

57 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

No matter whether your point is true, the data shows that Trump took a good thing under Biden and has, so far, screwed it up.  Royally. 

My point is true and is found in the first post of this thread. Your point about what “you thought” was horsesh*t. That’s on you. 
 

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/19/biden-trump-stock-market-gains

 

We’ll see where it stands 46 months from now. 

[nedboy7]

22 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

What was the Stock Market’s P/E Ratio when Trump took office?

 

Yep.  Trump definitely did this:
https://www.currentmarketvaluation.com/models/price-earnings.php
 

 

 

Intellectually honest people will tell you these hard truths:

 

We are still recovering from the Great Recession 

 

We recovered the stock market - and rescued big business and the banks.  
 

Americans got by on zero interest that was used to help keep us afloat.  
 

The Federal government’s spending was never reigned in.  
 

Covid immediately created (Democrat Covidian Globalists did) a 10 plus year financial ticking time bomb where inflation - significant inflation was inevitable.  
 

The stock market is grossly overvalued.  
 

We warned you.  No one listened.  
 

Going into 2020, the country was poised to legitimately recover from 2008.  
 

 

Democrat Covid Globalists refused to let that happen.   

LOL.  The main reason the markets are down is people have zero confidence in Trumps economic plans.   Show some intellectually integrity. 

[Big Blitz]

2 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

LOL.  The main reason the markets are down is people have zero confidence in Trumps economic plans.   Show some intellectually integrity. 

 

That’s not what I asked or laid out for you.  
 

If you want to clutch pearls over day to day performance you go right ahead.  It’s pointless.  
 

I gave you a big picture analysis of where we’ve been and why we are where we are. 
 

Sorry you’re a victim of public schooling.  

[nedboy7]

Just now, Big Blitz said:

 

That’s not what I asked or laid out for you.  
 

If you want to clutch pearls over day to day performance you go right ahead.  It’s pointless.  
 

I gave you a big picture analysis of where we’ve been and why we are where we are. 
 

Sorry you’re a victim of public schooling.  

Half your post was BS you’d never post under Biden.  You all are the most dishonest goal post movers I’ve ever seen.  I’m waiting for the stock market is manipulated by mean transgender globalists argument. 

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, nedboy7 said:

Half your post was BS you’d never post under Biden.  You all are the most dishonest goal post movers I’ve ever seen.  I’m waiting for the stock market is manipulated by mean transgender globalists argument. 

 

Find where I EVER commented on the stock market’s performance during Biden.  

 

You still don’t know what the P/E ratio is.  

[nedboy7]

Wait and see what happens to our economy when the rest of the world gets sick of being treated like a hotel contractor.  Better clutch your trump coins B word. 

[Big Blitz]

6 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Wait and see what happens to our economy when the rest of the world gets sick of being treated like a hotel contractor.  Better clutch your trump coins B word. 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told the NY Economy Club:

“The first time I went to see President Trump he looked at

me and said ‘how do we get this debt and deficit down

without killing the economy?’ ...

 

I’ve been thinking about this for 18 months and [the way to do it is]

the transition from a public sector to private sector [driven economy]

… 25 percent of GDP goes through [Washington DC] Area code 202.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

What was the Stock Market’s P/E Ratio when Trump took office?

 

Yep.  Trump definitely did this:
https://www.currentmarketvaluation.com/models/price-earnings.php
 

 

 

Intellectually honest people will tell you these hard truths:

 

We are still recovering from the Great Recession 

 

We recovered the stock market - and rescued big business and the banks.  
 

Americans got by on zero interest that was used to help keep us afloat.  
 

The Federal government’s spending was never reigned in.  
 

Covid immediately created (Democrat Covidian Globalists did) a 10 plus year financial ticking time bomb where inflation - significant inflation was inevitable.  
 

The stock market is grossly overvalued.  
 

We warned you.  No one listened.  
 

Going into 2020, the country was poised to legitimately recover from 2008.  
 

 

Democrat Covid Globalists refused to let that happen.   

Yeah that's it.  P/E is too high, so this is just some natural correction that can't be attributed to Trump.  Normally I'd say there's truth to it but, knowing everything you said, the  bozo ran on, among other things, the promises of a booming stock market and higher paychecks and lower inflation.  And yet here we are.  The market is tanking because of his stupidity and whim, inflation is increasing, and buying power is decreasing.  He's driving the good economy he inherited into an abyss.  

[Big Blitz]

6 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Yeah that's it.  P/E is too high, so this is just some natural correction that can't be attributed to Trump.  Normally I'd say there's truth to it but, knowing everything you said, the  bozo ran on, among other things, the promises of a booming stock market and higher paychecks and lower inflation.  And yet here we are.  The market is tanking because of his stupidity and whim, inflation is increasing, and buying power is decreasing.  He's driving the good economy he inherited into an abyss.  

 

He DID NOT inherit a good economy. 
 

You can take him literally (oh oh day 1 magic everything is fixed that’s what he said!)

 

Or you can take him seriously and 18 months from now these posts 45 days into his presidency are going to be relentlessly bumped.  
 

Also - it’s good to know the Ds have zero plans and zero interest in working with Rs bc “this isn’t normal” - where is their version of the TEA Party?  What is it?  American economy must get worse? 
 

That isn’t what the TEA Party ran on.  It ran on stopping spending, socialized health care, and Obama denying Russia was a problem.  
 

I know you don’t know this bc you think history started in January 2017.  
 

 

Edited Friday at 02:24 AM by Big Blitz

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

He DID NOT inherit a good economy. 
 

You can take him literally (oh oh day 1 magic everything is fixed that’s what he said!)

 

Or you can take him seriously and 18 months from now these posts 45 days into his presidency are going to be relentlessly bumped.  
 

Also - it’s good to know the Ds have zero plans and zero interest in working with Rs bc “this isn’t normal” - where is their version of the TEA Party?  What is it?  American economy must get worse? 
 

That isn’t what the TEA Party ran on.  It ran on stopping spending, socialized health care, and Obama denying Russia was a problem.  
 

I know you don’t know this bc you think history started in January 2017.  
 

 

Actually he did inherit a good economy.  Trump has made things worse.  And heaven forbid that for once he actually be held to his word.  (Or that he at least focus on the problems of working Americans, rather than nonsense like MAGAZA.)  He said he was going to "fix" all of these things (inflation, economy, paychecks, stock market).  They are all deteriorating under his watch.  Just like private sector layoffs are deteriorating.  While he plays golf. 

[Big Blitz]

33 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Actually he did inherit a good economy.  Trump has made things worse.  And heaven forbid that for once he actually be held to his word.  (Or that he at least focus on the problems of working Americans, rather than nonsense like MAGAZA.)  He said he was going to "fix" all of these things (inflation, economy, paychecks, stock market).  They are all deteriorating under his watch.  Just like private sector layoffs are deteriorating.  While he plays golf. 

 

What did Biden inherit?

 

 

 

 

 

Oh.  Here you go.  Covidiot

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All jobs were foreign 

 

 

 

 

Just give us a day or 2 to fix this ***t show. 
 

 

 

 

 

[SectionC3]

8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

What did Biden inherit?

 

 

 

 

 

Oh.  Here you go.  Covidiot

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All jobs were foreign 

 

 

 

 

Just give us a day or 2 to fix this ***t show. 
 

 

 

 

 

You spent a lot of time on ignoring pent up demand, too much free money injected into the system (remember when Trump gave it away and either wanted to or actually signed the checks?), and short supply because of COVID.  

 

Whatever it was that Biden inherited he managed not to screw it up.  And, arguably, improve it, because inflation was cooling when he left office.  But now, this fool came in an managed to push the market very close to correction territory, hasn't done a thing as inflation has worsened, and brainwashed people like you into thinking it's someone else's fault.  If Trump had simply left well enough alone then we would be richer and have lower prices today.  Instead, Trump tariffs = economic distress for Americans. 

Just now, SectionC3 said:

You spent a lot of time on ignoring pent up demand, too much free money injected into the system (remember when Trump gave it away and either wanted to or actually signed the checks?), and short supply because of COVID.  

 

Whatever it was that Biden inherited he managed not to screw it up.  And, arguably, improve it, because inflation was cooling when he left office.  But now, this fool came in an managed to push the market very close to correction territory, hasn't done a thing as inflation has worsened, and brainwashed people like you into thinking it's someone else's fault.  If Trump had simply left well enough alone then we would be richer and have lower prices today.  Instead, Trump tariffs = economic distress for Americans. 

 

I'll add this - your trade deficit point is directly attributable to stockpiling in advance of these idiotic tariffs.  That's why the deficit grew in Biden's last month in office.