The Thousand-yard stare

[90sBills]

46 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

Allen is number 1 all time in NFL playoff history in 

 

Tds pg

Yards pg

Td to int ratio 

Total td to turnovers ratio 

102 career playoff passer rating 

 

He's the greatest statistical QB in NFL playoff history... 

 

It's unbelievable 

 

This has everything to do with the ppl around Allen. Full stop. I understand it's a team game, but if you're asking more from the greatest statistical QB in NFL playoff history, youre being an #######

Are you sure 102 passer rating is number 1 all time in playoffs history?

[Dablitzkrieg]

5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

And Mahomes had a bad fumble likely costing the Chiefs a TD so what's your point?  NO player is perfect for an entire game.  When any reasonable person looks at this last Bills/Chiefs game Allen's play is way down the list of things that needed to be better in order for the Bills to win.

 

 

My point is he deserves some criticism. 

[gjv]

2 hours ago, billsgpr88 said:

Whether or not Bills fans agree with its implications, we’re all familiar with the image: Josh Allen on the sidlines, eyes glazed, staring into the distance. I recall seeing it in the horrendous Jaguars game a few years back (in Jacksonville iirc, not the one in England), in his first playoff game against the Texans, and now in back to back playoff games against the Chiefs. It doesn’t happen often, but it always seems to foreshadow a Bills loss. 
 

I love watching Josh Allen play; having watched nearly every game during the drought, I could never say enough about how he has uplifted the organization and the community. I’d argue he means as much or more to Buffalo than any athlete does to their respective team in American sports. He’s the most important individual in the building, and it’s not even close. The issue is, he knows it. He knows about the superbowl losses and the drought, and how desperately Buffalo wants one, just one, Super Bowl victory. And I believe this is what weighs on his shoulders every time I see that absent-minded stare from the sideline. 

I’ll always root for Josh; he’s almost beyond criticism, knowing how much he does to win, what he’s already accomplished in his career, and especially for being a genuinely great person and leader. But, when I see that stare, I immediately get the sense that the game is over. We can point to specific plays, bad calls by the refs, poor coaching, or simply talent, but Josh is the unquestioned leader of the team, even more than McDermott, and I think when his teammates see that from Josh, they feel it, and their confidence is drained from it. And the worst part is that it keeps happening against the chiefs in the playoffs, and with each year the pressure is amplified. Although he played pretty well overall against the chiefs, he didn’t display that heroic, game-dominating mentality that was on display against the chiefs in the regular season game. As much as I hate to admit, I felt the Bills would lose last Sunday as early as the first quarter, though I didn’t initially realize why. Now looking back, I am convinced it is the thousand-yard stare that reveals how overwhelming the pressure is to be the savior of the Buffalo Bills.

How were his eyes on the 4th down pass he threw to Kincade with a Chief in his face.

[Kelly to Allen]

10 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Are you sure 102 passer rating is number 1 all time in playoffs history?

 

I think it's 3rd or 4th all time lol

 

Just checked it, he's 6th all time in NFL playoff history in passer rating. 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, gjv said:

How were his eyes on the 4th down pass he threw to Kincade with a Chief in his face.

Late

[gjv]

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

Late

Late for what?

[T master]

3 hours ago, billsgpr88 said:

Whether or not Bills fans agree with its implications, we’re all familiar with the image: Josh Allen on the sidlines, eyes glazed, staring into the distance. I recall seeing it in the horrendous Jaguars game a few years back (in Jacksonville iirc, not the one in England), in his first playoff game against the Texans, and now in back to back playoff games against the Chiefs. It doesn’t happen often, but it always seems to foreshadow a Bills loss. 
 

I love watching Josh Allen play; having watched nearly every game during the drought, I could never say enough about how he has uplifted the organization and the community. I’d argue he means as much or more to Buffalo than any athlete does to their respective team in American sports. He’s the most important individual in the building, and it’s not even close. The issue is, he knows it. He knows about the superbowl losses and the drought, and how desperately Buffalo wants one, just one, Super Bowl victory. And I believe this is what weighs on his shoulders every time I see that absent-minded stare from the sideline. 

I’ll always root for Josh; he’s almost beyond criticism, knowing how much he does to win, what he’s already accomplished in his career, and especially for being a genuinely great person and leader. But, when I see that stare, I immediately get the sense that the game is over. We can point to specific plays, bad calls by the refs, poor coaching, or simply talent, but Josh is the unquestioned leader of the team, even more than McDermott, and I think when his teammates see that from Josh, they feel it, and their confidence is drained from it. And the worst part is that it keeps happening against the chiefs in the playoffs, and with each year the pressure is amplified. Although he played pretty well overall against the chiefs, he didn’t display that heroic, game-dominating mentality that was on display against the chiefs in the regular season game. As much as I hate to admit, I felt the Bills would lose last Sunday as early as the first quarter, though I didn’t initially realize why. Now looking back, I am convinced it is the thousand-yard stare that reveals how overwhelming the pressure is to be the savior of the Buffalo Bills.

 

Question - could that stare be him sitting realizing that no matter what he does, no matter how much he puts his body and his team mates bodies on the line to win that they can't beat the team they are playing and the refs too ? I think that could be that realization coming into reality .

 

I've watched numerous video's of plays in the game 1 in particular of Jimbo making the first down, Nance & Romo call it only to have the Refs mark it almost 2 full yards short WTF is up with that ? Then Kincaid making the first and marking it short, Josh making the first but the guy behind him that CAN NOT SEE THE BALL over rules the guy the CAN SEE THE BALL to mark it short after you put your ody out there like Josh and others do and you come to the realization that your up against forces that you can't beat no matter what !! 

 

I feel that could be the (as you call it) the Thousand yard stare .. JMHO .

[ProcessTruster]

2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Stats dont always tell the entire story.   He had a fine game but it wasnt great.   The fumbled snap put them behind schedule for a first down.  He failed to recognize where the blitz was coming from on the last play of the game.   While the center makes the line call, the Quarterback needs to recognize where the blitz is coming from to put the lineman in the right position to make that call. 

 

Josh is an absolute dog and a likely future hall of famer but part of the loss is certainly on him.  

Yeah against the better DCs, it seems that Josh will not be able to 

run much, 

roll right much, 

throw deep much anymore. 

 

 He must play QB, reset protections, see what is coming and adjust, like a real QB.   OC needs to be better, but Josh needs to be better as well.   He probably knows that and will focus on it this offseason, just as he focused on minimizing turnovers this year.   

 

His marching orders are clear; as he said, having mastered Brady's new offense in hand for next season will be a big help.  It appears that Brady changed quite a bit and Josh was learning it and getting sharper in it as the season went on.   People are not factoring that in.  Josh said he was learning it.  that was an interesting quote. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Ga boy said:

Von was supposed to be guy who would get us a Lombardi.

the ACL injury washed Von out. 

 

is what it is.    he was tearing it up b4 that injury.  

 

Injuries matter.   Plus it hit the cap hard.  Unfortunate; thats about all one can say on that one. 

[Simon]

13 minutes ago, gjv said:

Late for what?

 

Late to recognize the corner blitz.

Probably because he was so focused on his presnap decision to get Shakir the ball out of the orbit motion that he didn't finally realize what was happening until he had run himself into a dead end and had to chuck up a prayer.

[Kelly to Allen]

I'm trading for Parsons 

I'm signing pat jones de from the Vikings 

I'm signing s jevon Holland 

I'm signing cb dj Reed 

 

Then I'm drafting multiple CBS 

And I'm drafting multiple dline 

 

Build a frickin defense that can be dominant in the playoffs 

[extrahammer]

3 hours ago, billsgpr88 said:

Whether or not Bills fans agree with its implications, we’re all familiar with the image: Josh Allen on the sidlines, eyes glazed, staring into the distance. I recall seeing it in the horrendous Jaguars game a few years back (in Jacksonville iirc, not the one in England), in his first playoff game against the Texans, and now in back to back playoff games against the Chiefs. It doesn’t happen often, but it always seems to foreshadow a Bills loss. 
 

I love watching Josh Allen play; having watched nearly every game during the drought, I could never say enough about how he has uplifted the organization and the community. I’d argue he means as much or more to Buffalo than any athlete does to their respective team in American sports. He’s the most important individual in the building, and it’s not even close. The issue is, he knows it. He knows about the superbowl losses and the drought, and how desperately Buffalo wants one, just one, Super Bowl victory. And I believe this is what weighs on his shoulders every time I see that absent-minded stare from the sideline. 

I’ll always root for Josh; he’s almost beyond criticism, knowing how much he does to win, what he’s already accomplished in his career, and especially for being a genuinely great person and leader. But, when I see that stare, I immediately get the sense that the game is over. We can point to specific plays, bad calls by the refs, poor coaching, or simply talent, but Josh is the unquestioned leader of the team, even more than McDermott, and I think when his teammates see that from Josh, they feel it, and their confidence is drained from it. And the worst part is that it keeps happening against the chiefs in the playoffs, and with each year the pressure is amplified. Although he played pretty well overall against the chiefs, he didn’t display that heroic, game-dominating mentality that was on display against the chiefs in the regular season game. As much as I hate to admit, I felt the Bills would lose last Sunday as early as the first quarter, though I didn’t initially realize why. Now looking back, I am convinced it is the thousand-yard stare that reveals how overwhelming the pressure is to be the savior of the Buffalo Bills.

 

You mean this stare?

 

 

[Success]

I thought you were talking about me.

 

[Ya Digg?]

3 hours ago, billsgpr88 said:

Whether or not Bills fans agree with its implications, we’re all familiar with the image: Josh Allen on the sidlines, eyes glazed, staring into the distance. I recall seeing it in the horrendous Jaguars game a few years back (in Jacksonville iirc, not the one in England), in his first playoff game against the Texans, and now in back to back playoff games against the Chiefs. It doesn’t happen often, but it always seems to foreshadow a Bills loss. 
 

I love watching Josh Allen play; having watched nearly every game during the drought, I could never say enough about how he has uplifted the organization and the community. I’d argue he means as much or more to Buffalo than any athlete does to their respective team in American sports. He’s the most important individual in the building, and it’s not even close. The issue is, he knows it. He knows about the superbowl losses and the drought, and how desperately Buffalo wants one, just one, Super Bowl victory. And I believe this is what weighs on his shoulders every time I see that absent-minded stare from the sideline. 

I’ll always root for Josh; he’s almost beyond criticism, knowing how much he does to win, what he’s already accomplished in his career, and especially for being a genuinely great person and leader. But, when I see that stare, I immediately get the sense that the game is over. We can point to specific plays, bad calls by the refs, poor coaching, or simply talent, but Josh is the unquestioned leader of the team, even more than McDermott, and I think when his teammates see that from Josh, they feel it, and their confidence is drained from it. And the worst part is that it keeps happening against the chiefs in the playoffs, and with each year the pressure is amplified. Although he played pretty well overall against the chiefs, he didn’t display that heroic, game-dominating mentality that was on display against the chiefs in the regular season game. As much as I hate to admit, I felt the Bills would lose last Sunday as early as the first quarter, though I didn’t initially realize why. Now looking back, I am convinced it is the thousand-yard stare that reveals how overwhelming the pressure is to be the savior of the Buffalo Bills.

And the award for worst take since the playoff game goes to….

[GoBills808]

Ffs please learn more football

[corta765]

3 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Jeremy White on WGR was even talking about this today. It even seemed like Beane and McDermott were kinda saying well Josh should have done more.       Almost like those that remember him with the Sabres saying well we can’t score enough goals so we just need Dominick Hasek to make a few more saves. 
 People have been so spoiled by his greatness that even the front office expects to him to be amazing every week and I’m sure it wears on him. 

 

I absolutely loathe the Hasek comparison. With respect to Josh, Hasek is virtually the best hockey goalie of all time and only maybe Roy challenges him when you break out the advanced stats on how much Hasek did. By comparison Josh is going to be one of the top 3 for his era which is superb, but he is not going to be in the Mahomes Brady Montana Manning group unless he adds a ton of hardware quickly and some rings. They are not remotely comparable as players at this time despite my love for 17 and everything he has done. Josh had a good game not great and it isn't unfair to say he should've been a bit better, but that also factors in the entire team (minus Cook & Mack) and coaches should have been better. Somehow it is being lost that saying "I wish Josh did a little more" means throwing out that he still was let down by his defense and coaches. No one ever has pointed a finger at him for 21' because he was perfect in 13 seconds, he takes a little blame for this year and last year because he was a grade of B-B+ in both games and had errors not just limited to the last drive. This isn't year 2 or 3 anymore either, the hour glass is starting to lose sand and everyone is starting to feel like if not now then when.

Edited 4 hours ago by corta765

[BILLS 4 EVER]

All this and if the ball spots are accurate and the refs calls are correct, we still win.

[finn]

2 hours ago, Einstein said:

What the crap is happening on this board?

 

Outside of the first drive, Allen was great! He was 68% passing, had ~270 yards, 2 TD’s and 0 turnovers.

 

His two TD passes were absolute dimes.

 

The only thousand yard stare he had was at the very end of the game when the Chiefs ran out the clock.

 

If you need someone to blame, look no further than Joe Brady. His tendencies were so obvious that the Chiefs knew what plays we were running before we ran them. 

Precisely. I think the Bills would have won in a fair game, but given they lost, Brady's failure to prepare and respond is the story. Also, the quality-control person, whoever that is, should be fired. Brady's patterns were as transparent as air to KC.

[akinko_kd]

The last cornerback Blitz's explanation was good for this video

 

[Sojourner]

1 hour ago, julian said:

It’s the biggest single factor leading the Bills to zero SBs or even zero appearances, the absolute failure to build a SB level pass rush. The Dline isn’t good at all, it fails to make game changing plays in the biggest moments.

 

 It has to be the number one priority of management in the coming weeks and months.

 

Agree with you on the fact they’re not great. They’re ok. But Ok doesn’t get you a Lombardi. 
 

However, the bolded isn’t true. It’s just not consistent. 
 

If you don’t think Jordan Phillips walking a guard 5 yards backwards into a QB and sacking him in the AFCC isn’t a game changing play in a big moment, I don’t know what to tell you bro lol

 

The Chiefs score a TD there if he doesn’t do that. No ifs ands or buts. Kelce is coming open in the middle of the EZ as JuJu holds out LBs underneath. Who knows wtf Douglas is going to do against Hopkins, the All-22 shows him believing that the play is over before Mahomes is actually even completely on the ground. 😬

 

We need better, no question. They’re subpar for a Super Bowl aspiring team. But they do show up on occasion, whether the game is big or small. They just don’t do it consistently. Consistency is just as much a player problem as it is management/coaching

[dayman]

I think it’s totally fair to expect Josh to be all-world always and consider him to blame (in part) for losses when he isn’t—he is that good and is supposed to be that for our team. You can both do that and also acknowledge at the same time he’s still great even when he turns in a merely good or average game on any given week.

 

With that said, to the topic, how is he supposed to look! lol it doesn’t matter how he looks. 

Edited 4 hours ago by dayman