Jimmy Harris 69 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 So when the defensive and offensive coordinators get outdone we should blame our best player because he didn’t rescue them? Hell no. When OC doesn’t have of second most dynamic offensive player on the the field for the most important drive of the game we blame the mvp for not doing a mid air 180 with three guys bearing down on him to hit the open route? Hell no. Joe Brady failed our QB with his simple ass game plan. It blows my mind how these guys have 500 plays on a card and we see the same seven plays (kc sees them coming) Did Josh have a monster game, no. But where were the planned QB runs? The first drive could have been a td drive with Scripted qb runs rather than those pass plays . Call an another snow plow Joe! 1 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Ken stabler went through a very similar era in the 70s. Lots of similarities and gut wrenching losses going against an all time dynasty Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted February 1 Posted February 1 13 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: The protection was not set properly and Allen had 4 guys in his face immediately. The play was dead from the start. Low probability throw, instead of letting the play develop. That is NOT a critical error by a QB. Critical errors resulting from what you describe as Allen's shortcomings on that play would have been: * Taking a sack * Throwing an INT * Throwing to a receiver well behind the line to gain. * Throwing a pass that was not catchable. Instead Allen threw a very catchable pass beyond the line to gain. Calling that a "critical Allen mistake" is ridiculous on its face. 21 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Josh was awful that first drive, devastatingly awful, and not real good in the next few drives either. That was the problem for him. But then in the second half he was insane, excepting the tush pushes. And there's a lot of shared blame there. Allen was bad on his first drive. On his second drive he was solid leading the Bills to a FG. He was outstanding on that last drive before of the half to make it a one score game. But in no reasonable way could you call Allen's first drive "devastatingly awful". That is pure hyperbole. Nothing devastating happened on that first drive. You know like a pick 6 or lost fumble in the Bills Red Zone. The O went three and out and then punted the Chiefs to their own 10 yard line. Hardly a devastating outcome. 1 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted February 8 Posted February 8 On 1/31/2025 at 7:35 AM, Einstein said: What the crap is happening on this board? Outside of the first drive, Allen was great! He was 68% passing, had ~270 yards, 2 TD’s and 0 turnovers. His two TD passes were absolute dimes. The only thousand yard stare he had was at the very end of the game when the Chiefs ran out the clock. If you need someone to blame, look no further than Joe Brady. His tendencies were so obvious that the Chiefs knew what plays we were running before we ran them. Spot on, Sir. 4 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 8 Posted February 8 On 1/31/2025 at 7:28 AM, billsgpr88 said: Whether or not Bills fans agree with its implications, we’re all familiar with the image: Josh Allen on the sidlines, eyes glazed, staring into the distance. I recall seeing it in the horrendous Jaguars game a few years back (in Jacksonville iirc, not the one in England), in his first playoff game against the Texans, and now in back to back playoff games against the Chiefs. It doesn’t happen often, but it always seems to foreshadow a Bills loss. I love watching Josh Allen play; having watched nearly every game during the drought, I could never say enough about how he has uplifted the organization and the community. I’d argue he means as much or more to Buffalo than any athlete does to their respective team in American sports. He’s the most important individual in the building, and it’s not even close. The issue is, he knows it. He knows about the superbowl losses and the drought, and how desperately Buffalo wants one, just one, Super Bowl victory. And I believe this is what weighs on his shoulders every time I see that absent-minded stare from the sideline. I’ll always root for Josh; he’s almost beyond criticism, knowing how much he does to win, what he’s already accomplished in his career, and especially for being a genuinely great person and leader. But, when I see that stare, I immediately get the sense that the game is over. We can point to specific plays, bad calls by the refs, poor coaching, or simply talent, but Josh is the unquestioned leader of the team, even more than McDermott, and I think when his teammates see that from Josh, they feel it, and their confidence is drained from it. And the worst part is that it keeps happening against the chiefs in the playoffs, and with each year the pressure is amplified. Although he played pretty well overall against the chiefs, he didn’t display that heroic, game-dominating mentality that was on display against the chiefs in the regular season game. As much as I hate to admit, I felt the Bills would lose last Sunday as early as the first quarter, though I didn’t initially realize why. Now looking back, I am convinced it is the thousand-yard stare that reveals how overwhelming the pressure is to be the savior of the Buffalo Bills. Allen needs help. He needs a smarter GM and a better coach. The skill position talent that he is trying to drag to the Super Bowl has been below average for his entire career in Buffalo. His GM got him Stefon Diggs in 2020 and then STOPPED. Look at these players - Robert Foster, Duke Williams, Cole Beasley, John Brown, Stefon Diggs, Emmanuel Sanders, Gabe Davis, Isaiah McKenzie, Jake Kumerow, Jamison Crowder, Trent Sherfield, Deonte Harty, Mack Hollins, Curtis Samuel, Keon Coleman, Amari Cooper, Kahlil Shakir. Draft picks like Justin Shorter, Ray Ray McLoud, Austin Proehl, Marquez Stephenson, Isaiah Hodgins. Running backs over the years - Frank Gore in 2019, Devin Singletary, Zack Moss, Leonard Fournette, Damian Harris, Latavius Murray, Ty Johnson, James Cook, Ray Davis, Matt Breida, TJ Yeldon in 2019. Nobody to pair with Diggs to form a deep WR group in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023. Cole Beasley and John Brown were both 30-years old when Allen got them and aged out in Buffalo after two seasons 2019 and 2020. Gabe Davis in the 4th-Round was the highest drafted Beane WR until Keon Coleman. I think the 1,000-yard stare is knowing that you have to carry the offense and you don’t have a guy that can get open. Diggs is the sole leg for Beane to stand on. Otherwise Allen has been left to fend for himself in these Playoff games with a weak supporting cast. There continues to be no significant investment at WR. And this doesn’t cover the obvious problems with a McDermott scheme on defense and the same mediocre players on that side of the ball - #2 corner, DT, Safety ect. 1 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/1/2025 at 8:21 AM, Jimmy Harris 69 said: So when the defensive and offensive coordinators get outdone we should blame our best player because he didn’t rescue them? Hell no. When OC doesn’t have of second most dynamic offensive player on the the field for the most important drive of the game we blame the mvp for not doing a mid air 180 with three guys bearing down on him to hit the open route? Hell no. Joe Brady failed our QB with his simple ass game plan. It blows my mind how these guys have 500 plays on a card and we see the same seven plays (kc sees them coming) Did Josh have a monster game, no. But where were the planned QB runs? The first drive could have been a td drive with Scripted qb runs rather than those pass plays . Call an another snow plow Joe! Brady & Babich/McD got schooled and bullied by Spags & Reid. Brady didn't call 1 new play in that game. An absolute disgrace. And Sean's tiny little defensive players sat in their cute zone and got shredded as usual. 2 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted February 9 Posted February 9 4 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Allen needs help. He needs a smarter GM and a better coach. The skill position talent that he is trying to drag to the Super Bowl has been below average for his entire career in Buffalo. His GM got him Stefon Diggs in 2020 and then STOPPED. Look at these players - Robert Foster, Duke Williams, Cole Beasley, John Brown, Stefon Diggs, Emmanuel Sanders, Gabe Davis, Isaiah McKenzie, Jake Kumerow, Jamison Crowder, Trent Sherfield, Deonte Harty, Mack Hollins, Curtis Samuel, Keon Coleman, Amari Cooper, Kahlil Shakir. Draft picks like Justin Shorter, Ray Ray McLoud, Austin Proehl, Marquez Stephenson, Isaiah Hodgins. Running backs over the years - Frank Gore in 2019, Devin Singletary, Zack Moss, Leonard Fournette, Damian Harris, Latavius Murray, Ty Johnson, James Cook, Ray Davis, Matt Breida, TJ Yeldon in 2019. Nobody to pair with Diggs to form a deep WR group in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023. Cole Beasley and John Brown were both 30-years old when Allen got them and aged out in Buffalo after two seasons 2019 and 2020. Gabe Davis in the 4th-Round was the highest drafted Beane WR until Keon Coleman. I think the 1,000-yard stare is knowing that you have to carry the offense and you don’t have a guy that can get open. Diggs is the sole leg for Beane to stand on. Otherwise Allen has been left to fend for himself in these Playoff games with a weak supporting cast. There continues to be no significant investment at WR. And this doesn’t cover the obvious problems with a McDermott scheme on defense and the same mediocre players on that side of the ball - #2 corner, DT, Safety ect. 💯....This organization needs to step up and stop expecting JA17 to do it all. His coaches & players constantly let him down. His GM is clearly incapable of finding any defensive talent in the first 3 rounds. Terry's perfectly content. And Josh is too much of a stand up " loyal warrior" to ever complain. You factor all these things in together and you've got a complacent recipe. Settling for regular season accomplishments. And nothing more.... 1 1 1 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 9 Posted February 9 12 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: 💯....This organization needs to step up and stop expecting JA17 to do it all. His coaches & players constantly let him down. His GM is clearly incapable of finding any defensive talent in the first 3 rounds. Terry's perfectly content. And Josh is too much of a stand up " loyal warrior" to ever complain. You factor all these things in together and you've got a complacent recipe. Settling for regular season accomplishments. And nothing more.... That’s exactly the word - complacent. Thats the tone that Beane struck a week ago in his end of year press conference. No - hey this loss is a wake up call, no - we need to dig deep on our processes, no - we’re going to have the hard conversations, no - we have time to dig into the tape and figure out why this is happening. Instead it was “we’re close”, “tip your hat to KC”, “KC is going for a 3-peat”, it’s not like we’re just losing to anybody”, “it’s not fair to pin it on one person”, injuries, development isn’t linear, it’s hard to join midseason, Coleman is only 20. As you said - multiple times Beane referenced the 13-wins and all the regular season success they’ve had. His philosophy is going to stay the same - “keep kicking the door in”, said no need to “blow it up”. Everybody coming back - Damar, Matt Smiley. It was a really disappointing press conference and I’m worried for Allen. McDermott has never recovered in some fans eyes for 13-seconds, and I think when you lose in the Wildcard, AFCCG, Divisional, Divisional, Divisional, AFCCG, it shows you the hard ceiling your roster can’t break through. Beane made excuse after excuse on the podium. 1 Quote
DaVinci Posted February 9 Posted February 9 17 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Beane made excuse after excuse on the podium. There was one Bills GM that could take this team over the top Quote
SinceThe70s Posted February 9 Posted February 9 38 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: 💯....This organization needs to step up and stop expecting JA17 to do it all. His coaches & players constantly let him down. His GM is clearly incapable of finding any defensive talent in the first 3 rounds. Terry's perfectly content. And Josh is too much of a stand up " loyal warrior" to ever complain. You factor all these things in together and you've got a complacent recipe. Settling for regular season accomplishments. And nothing more.... What makes you convinced that Terry's perfectly content? I'm guessing you think that cuz he hasn't fired McD or Beane, is that correct? Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted February 9 Posted February 9 26 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: What makes you convinced that Terry's perfectly content? I'm guessing you think that cuz he hasn't fired McD or Beane, is that correct? What was trading for Diggs? Signing Von Miller? Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Don’t trust the thousand yard stare, I give that same stare to my girlfriend when she says “Let’s go to the movies”. I immediately know 50 shades of grey 3 or a movie like it is what I’ll have to sit through for 3 hours. Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/1/2025 at 11:21 AM, Jimmy Harris 69 said: So when the defensive and offensive coordinators get outdone we should blame our best player because he didn’t rescue them? Hell no. When OC doesn’t have of second most dynamic offensive player on the the field for the most important drive of the game we blame the mvp for not doing a mid air 180 with three guys bearing down on him to hit the open route? Hell no. Joe Brady failed our QB with his simple ass game plan. It blows my mind how these guys have 500 plays on a card and we see the same seven plays (kc sees them coming) Did Josh have a monster game, no. But where were the planned QB runs? The first drive could have been a td drive with Scripted qb runs rather than those pass plays . Call an another snow plow Joe! Allen went to step on the gas in the pass game and we found out that this offense was a one trick pony. If the running game isn’t cooking well then it starts looking like 2018-2023 again with Allen having to make plays from scratch. Allen is in the huddle with pass catchers who can’t raise their game another level. There was a reason that in the Vegas preseason the over/under on Allen’s passing yardage was 3800. 1 Quote
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