How much do we need to change to get to the SuperBowl? Not that much actually.

[Rocky Landing]

3 hours ago, JohnNord said:

He wasn’t a liability though and he’s played well enough to start next season.  Go ahead and bookmark this comment.  Cole Bishop is going to be one of the starting safeties next season.   

I would be happy if you're right.

[Awwufelloff]

It sucks that the NFL is 1 game and done. You work all year to get to that one game. If it was a best of 3 or 5 I think we would pull it out, But anything can happen in 1 game. Sometimes the best team doesnt win the superbowl. In other sports the best team almost always wins it as they have to win a full series of best of 7.

[uticaclub]

34 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said:

It sucks that the NFL is 1 game and done. You work all year to get to that one game. If it was a best of 3 or 5 I think we would pull it out, But anything can happen in 1 game. Sometimes the best team doesnt win the superbowl. In other sports the best team almost always wins it as they have to win a full series of best of 7.

If it was a best of 7 series, we would have been swept by KC at this point.

[Kelly to Allen]

25 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

If it was a best of 7 series, we would have been swept by KC at this point.

 

Allen and the bills are 4-3 vs kc since 2021...

 

 

They gotta try to trade for max Crosby, Myles Garrett, Micah Parsons, tj watt, or find that guy in this draft. 

 

They then need two really good CBS and a safety. 

 

Then sign a field stretching wr. Elijah Moore is interesting 

 

Edited Friday at 06:44 AM by Kelly to Allen

[uticaclub]

3 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Allen and the bills are 4-3 vs kc since 2021...

They gotta try to trade for max Crosby, Myles Garrett, Micah Parsons, tj watt, or find that guy in this draft. 

 

They then need two really good CBS and a safety.

 

Then sign a field stretching wr. 

 

I was talking playoffs, not regular. season, 0-4.

 

Beane isn't drafting, trading or signing a difference maker not named Josh Allen, its been 7 years, not happening.

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

8 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

We need a pass rushing DE, Big 1 tech DT, Speed WR, CB, Safety.  That's 6. Bigger at LB is also what I would like, but I bet that's a pipe dream.

 

So 6 between FA, and the Draft. It can be done.

1. 1T

2. DE

3. WR

4. CB

5.  S

....give me 2 each of these positions!

8 hours ago, jaybeezee said:

Coleman = JAG. Is what we saw in college and I dont personally think he can deal with the cold weather. If he fell off because of a wrist injury, then I will add Butter Soft to his profile too.

Kincaid = Jury is still out, but not looking too promising

Carter = Mehh

Solomon = Jury is still out

Rosseau = See Tremaine Edmunds for this one! JAG IMO and we have what we see, but there are fans of his on this board that think that he was worth a first!

No argument here. Spot on with all 5!

[Kelly to Allen]

52 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

I was talking playoffs, not regular. season, 0-4.

 

Beane isn't drafting, trading or signing a difference maker not named Josh Allen, its been 7 years, not happening.

 

 

 

They don't have a choice. He has to get a pass rusher and 2 cbs

 

Polian did it, so can beane

Edited Friday at 07:43 AM by Kelly to Allen

[Thurman#1]

10 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I get all the "buts" on how many excuses are being made, but I feel this time around its more facts than excuses. That said, lets get into it!  First, and @Simon don't have a stroke, but I really like Sean McDermott's end of season presser. There is just something different about him and it showed at the presser. He knows we need to improve our weaknesses and hinted he wants to be active in FA. He also said he agrees we need to stretch the field vertically. 

 

So what needs to be done.  First off I have done some research into Mr. Jim Johnson, the man that McDermott and Spags learned from as for as Defense is concerned.  What I don't get is how night and day the two are. McDermott is conservative and Spags just brings the dad gum sink!  Coach Johnson was a master of disguising blitzes and bringing them from anywhere keeping offenses off balance. I want to see McDermott lean on that more this offseason.   BTW Neat note, did you guys know Coach Johnson was a TE for us during the AFL years? 63-64!   Lastly on Scheme, I am giving Babich a pass on this season. Look I know from experience, going from coaching a position to play calling is a world of difference, he will learn from this year and improve.

 

Offensively, I want to see us stretch the field more and scheme more specific folks open. I want to see Kincaid hit the weight room and work his butt off on routes and contested catches.  I think if we can add some speed to the room and keep the core of Shakir, Coleman, Samuel (Maybe) Hollins, we would be ok.  I like what Sean said about not needing the speed to be say a #1 WR, but we need to stretch the field.

 

As for as personnel, stop drafting rotational linemen please? And Quit drafting upside. Just draft some guys who can come in and play football.  It has been discussed ad nauseum that Beane hasn't hit well on his 1st and some 2nd round picks. That needs to change this offseason.  

 

We need:  A stud pass rushing DE, a big 1 Tech DT, Bigger LB's, a CB or two, a Safety and WR with speed.  This can be done this offseason IF Beane can hit on Draft picks and we maybe just make a trade or two.

 

We aren't as far off as many think.  Coaching did cost us some, but I feel this AFCCG showed we lack pure talent. A speed WR opens up the underneath even on a Cover 2 Shell, a stud pass rusher and a big DT can add pressure, a little better CB and Safety play and we win the game.

 

Ill end with this, I don't think we are that far off from winning the whole thing. A handful of moves, a little luck and we will hoist the Lonbardi sooner than later.  I love my Bills fam, and I know this hurts, I am right there with you. I have been a fan since 1986 so this counts as what, my 40th year?  I get it, we all want a Superbowl, but we can't let that take away from what we do have, a top 4 team in the NFL with one of the best Playmaking QB's in Decades.  Rest up, Free agency and The combine will be here soon and we will be talking about that.

 

God Bless you all, Bills fam.  We WILL get there!

 

 

Agreed, not that much. But some.

 

Hell, we make those tush pushes we win the game. 

 

But drafting upside is what you're generally left with when you're drafting 29th. It's the way of the world, unfortunately.

 

As for drafting rotational linemen, that battle's long lost. Everyone rotates these days. To different extents, but that's what the league looks like. And IMO this defense needs LBs who can run like crazy. And guys who are big and can run are generally long gone by slot 29.

13 hours ago, DaVinci said:

Could we have won with the team we had if the coaches made a few better decisions?

 

 

Probably.

 

Could we also have won with the same coaching decisions and better execution? Maybe the TE holds onto that pass as one of several examples?

 

Probably.

 

It was damn close.

[SCBills]

16 hours ago, RiotAct said:

the thing that sucks though is, there’s no way we’ll be this healthy going into the playoffs next season.  I Mark-Messier-Guarantee it.

Chiefs are the healthiest year in/ year out of all the AFC contenders.

 

First things first, eyes on the 1 seed. 
 

We’ve tried a whole bunch of stuff to get to the Super Bowl, but that’s eluded us. 
 

Second, McDermott addressed it.. you need 2-3 game changers on each side of the ball.  He wouldn’t say whether or not he thinks we do, but the fact he wouldn’t means he knows we don’t… which means Beane knows we don’t.  Can they fix it this offseason, who knows, but knowing is half the problem. 

[Thurman#1]

7 hours ago, uticaclub said:

I was talking playoffs, not regular. season, 0-4.

 

Beane isn't drafting, trading or signing a difference maker not named Josh Allen, its been 7 years, not happening.

 

 

 

 

That's nonsense.

 

Benford, Taron, Milano, sorry, man, that's just dumb. Tre, Cook, Spencer Brown, Von Miller before the injury. Just dumb. 

 

Any on the level of Josh? No. But there are only about 5 - 7 players in the league, if that many, on Josh's level.

[BarleyNY]

8 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Chiefs are the healthiest year in/ year out of all the AFC contenders.

 

First things first, eyes on the 1 seed. 
 

We’ve tried a whole bunch of stuff to get to the Super Bowl, but that’s eluded us. 
 

Second, McDermott addressed it.. you need 2-3 game changers on each side of the ball.  He wouldn’t say whether or not he thinks we do, but the fact he wouldn’t means he knows we don’t… which means Beane knows we don’t.  Can they fix it this offseason, who knows, but knowing is half the problem. 

Bills fans: We has a record breaking offense! Everybody eats!

 

Bills lose in playoffs, again. To KC, again. 

 

Bills fans: Well, you really need 2-3 difference makers on each side of the ball……

 

LMAO

[Thurman#1]

6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Bills fans: We has a record breaking offense! Everybody eats!

 

Bills lose in playoffs, again. To KC, again. 

 

Bills fans: Well, you really need 2-3 difference makers on each side of the ball……

 

LMAO

 

 

Those two things are absolutely not mutually exclusive.

 

 

Edited Friday at 02:13 PM by Thurman#1

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Bills fans: We has a record breaking offense! Everybody eats!

 

Bills lose in playoffs, again. To KC, again. 

 

Bills fans: Well, you really need 2-3 difference makers on each side of the ball……

 

LMAO

In fairness, I think quite a few people started to realize that outside WR separation could be an issue.. and it was in the playoffs against Baltimore and Kansas City.  
 

We have Allen and Cook on that side of the ball.  Chiefs have Mahomes and Kelce.  Difference on offense in the playoffs was Worthy seems to be an actual game breaker… both in the sense he makes plays and keeps focus of the defense. 

 

Everyone knew the defense was devoid of playmakers.  We all hoped Von would find the fountain of youth and Rousseau would step up for once, but alas, wasn’t meant to be. 
 

Edited Friday at 02:13 PM by SCBills

[BillsPride12]

19 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Chiefs are the healthiest year in/ year out of all the AFC contenders.

 

First things first, eyes on the 1 seed. 
 

We’ve tried a whole bunch of stuff to get to the Super Bowl, but that’s eluded us. 
 

Second, McDermott addressed it.. you need 2-3 game changers on each side of the ball.  He wouldn’t say whether or not he thinks we do, but the fact he wouldn’t means he knows we don’t… which means Beane knows we don’t.  Can they fix it this offseason, who knows, but knowing is half the problem. 

[JP51]

16 hours ago, Sojourner said:

Blessings to you too. Appreciate the rationality in looking at the bigger picture in your post.

 

A better WR makes the offense easier and a legit DT in the middle solves a lot more problems for Ed, Groot and AJ. Would still like pass rusher addressed however as the guys we have on the roster don’t show up in the bigger moments. The one who has in his career is past his prime and not a reliable factor anymore. 
 

But the needs are really, with who’s projected to leave and who’s projected to stay:

(Bold draft, italics FA or trade)

 

a big 1 Tech DT

a WR with speed

a CB

a stud pass rushing DE

safety

 

LBs are at an acceptable and decent place imo. 
 

That DE I’d rather they acquire who’s experienced in the league but that’ll cost some which is why I put it further down in the order of necessity.

I think the LBs may look much better with you 1,  4 and 5.... 

[BarleyNY]

6 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Those two things are absolutely not mutually exclusive.

 

 

Saying the path to success on offense is predicated on the everybody eats philosophy and that it is predicated on having multiple difference makers is. Especially when the calls for a difference making WR are so loud. 

 

Also we have had enough talent to win every playoff game we’ve lost - since Allen has been our QB at least. Lack of talent is not why we’ve lost those games. It’s just an easy narrative. Every team that falls short can say they would’ve won with more talent. It’s a cop out and all it does is distract from the real reason we lost those games. 

[JP51]

To me priority 1 is a game wrecker on D... and that can be a stud pass rushing DE... or a Wide Body 1T that gets penetration and blows it up at the LOS...  either also probably make Ed Oliver more effective... he will never be an All Pro superstar but he is not big enough to handle double and sometimes even single teams... 

 

After that there are so many areas of need Safety play Must be upgraded this year... it really wasnt good enough... I would like a corner better than Elam to be able to step in assuming we sign Douglas...  I will say if you get priority one.... especially a DE the DB play improves simply because of the pass rush which was pretty much a failure this year at least on a consistent basis...  If you go 1T it may favor our smallish LBs in the run game...  

 

Game breaking receiver awesome do it. Help Josh all you can.. but in the end... if there was only one thing I could do that really improves this team to me is an absolute monster on the DL either 1T or DE... that is the molding that covers the flaws... and improves the over all team the most IMO...  That may just be the final piece we need... 

[uticaclub]

6 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

They don't have a choice. He has to get a pass rusher and 2 cbs

 

Polian did it, so can beane

Are you comparing Polian to Beane? 🤣🤣

32 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

That's nonsense.

 

Benford, Taron, Milano, sorry, man, that's just dumb. Tre, Cook, Spencer Brown, Von Miller before the injury. Just dumb. 

 

Any on the level of Josh? No. But there are only about 5 - 7 players in the league, if that many, on Josh's level.

Milano & Tre weren't drafted by Beane. So all you have Benford, Taron, Cook & Brown in 7 draft classes? Miller was a gamble that lost, not a win for Beane. 

Edited Friday at 02:29 PM by uticaclub

[Thurman#1]

22 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Second, McDermott addressed it.. you need 2-3 game changers on each side of the ball.  He wouldn’t say whether or not he thinks we do, but the fact he wouldn’t means he knows we don’t… which means Beane knows we don’t.  Can they fix it this offseason, who knows, but knowing is half the problem. 

 

 

Um, no it doesn't. That's you and what you believe. It's not McDermott.

 

The question was specifically about that and he answered it pretty clearly. He believes a team, to be at the highest level, needs "two to three on each side of the ball that are top 1 to 3, 1 to 5 ar their position. 

 

IMO we've got that. Not really on the DL which is frustrating, but outside of Allen IMO Taron, Milano, maybe Benford, Cook maybe, probably Spencer Brown.

 

It's arguable, but those guys are in that area.

 

Nobody on the DL since Von's injury. Ed Oliver has games when he looks that good, but not often enough.

[Kelly to Allen]

10 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Are you comparing Polian to Beane? 🤣🤣

Milano & Tre weren't drafted by Beane. So all you have Benford, Taron, Cook & Brown in 7 draft classes? Miller was a gamble that lost, not a win for Beane. 

 

That is a good point. Beane did draft Allen tho and his idea of Edmunds was in the right place. It just didn't work out. Oliver and Rousseau need an ace next to them

Edited Friday at 02:34 PM by Kelly to Allen