Coffeesforclosers Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Just now, Billsfanatic8989 said: I'm referring to the front office here. Obviously the comparison between those two QB's is ridiculous. I enjoy Bills football. I will continue to watch. However, I would like a championship someday. Me too. But I'm not going sprial down rabbit holes or whip myself online if they don't. I watched them lose the superbowls too. This is nothing. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 1 minute ago, Einstein said: He has shown no ability to seperate, and he has trouble catching the ball in contested situations. Really bad combo. I was running the numbers for our receivers and I saw the same trend I saw with Gabe Davis. Allen was at his WORST when he targeted Gabe, and he is at his worst when he targets Coleman. Allen was only 50% completion percentage when throwing to Coleman this year. He was 76% throwing to Shakir, 67% throwing to Knox, 72% throwing to Ty, 67% to Samuel, 84% to Cook, etc. 50% to Coleman is insanely low. It's a rookie... and his average target depth is 15.2 yards. Cook's is 0.9 yards. Knox is 8.8. Shakir is 5.5. Samuel is 4.6. Ty was 8.2. And its much of the same... gabe complaints that pretty much came down to the same explanations of him being a downfield target, and diggs and others getting the underneath stuff. Edited 11 hours ago by Bleeding Bills Blue Quote
RyanC883 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Just now, MrEpsYtown said: This is the key argument. Us as fans can go back and forth. And we can all agree to disagree. I want a championship and I don't see that coming. This regime has proven that they don't have what it takes to get there. Yes being good is way better than 17 years of garbage. But enough is enough and it's time for a change. another quote along with that, "what got you here won't get you there." Different leadership skills are needed for different tasks. McD is perhaps a HOF team builder, but he and Bean can't get over the hump to a Championship. 2 Quote
Billsfanatic8989 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 11 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: 1. Lose the attitude with "save it." 2. Your wrong about KC. OC Tre Smith, Pro Bowler, taken in the 5th round in 2021. C Creed Humphrey, Pro-Bowler also in 2021. (KC needed to fix its OL, they did. We needed to fix our DL, and our GM reached for picks in the 1st and 2nd, KC took BPA and solved their issues). Oh, KC also selected their D captain Nick Bolton in 2021. Should I continue, okay: Trent McDuffie in 2022; WR Rasheed Rice, 2nd round. Also worth noting that after KC traded who was perhaps the top WR in the NFL (Tyreek Hill), rather than make excuses, they went out and won the SB. Fans like you would apparently are happy just to make the playoffs after losing a top talent. 3. This KC is All-Time great is another BS excuse. You know why they are so freaking great, they run into us in the playoffs, who are outcoached and somewhat outmanned due to McD/Bean. Good is the enemy of great. You're happy with "good." Preaching to the choir 1 Quote
Einstein Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: It's a rookie... and his average target depth is 15.2 yards. Cook's is 0.9 yards. Knox is 8.8. Shakir is 5.5. Samuel is 4.6. Ty was 8.2. Same excuses as Gabe. We will see what the future unfolds but he has to get better and fast. 1 Quote
jkeerie Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Right - I also absolutely hate all the hindsight takes. Well the chiefs took humphrey!! Where was Center on the bills priority list that year? Does he start over morse? does he sit for a year? We should have traded up for McDuffie and Thomas!! With who? What would you have offered to do so? Why didn't we sit pat for laporta instead of kincaid?! Because of draft grades and projections. Folks are also forgetting that the Chiefs had been building that team to success prior to Mahomes getting there. They had a good foundation and team and Alex Smith as QB. They concluded he wasn't what they needed, and moved on to Mahomes. Beane and McDermott started with very little foundation and a bare cupboard...and still McD got to the playoffs in his first season. They have been building and getting closer. The Chiefs have only needed to add a piece here and there. It's obvious that Beane isn't satisfied that they are still not quite there. He said the emotions are still a bit raw to be talking about any specific changes at this point, but they will evaluate things and go from there. 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Beane isn’t going to say he needs to draft better come on people. That throws half the dam roster under the bus. 1 Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Well... We're Forked. (Except, I didn't say Forked, I said *****) 😉 Quote
Billz4ever Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Folks are also forgetting that the Chiefs had been building that team to success prior to Mahomes getting there. They had a good foundation and team and Alex Smith as QB. They concluded he wasn't what they needed, and moved on to Mahomes. Beane and McDermott started with very little foundation and a bare cupboard...and still McD got to the playoffs in his first season. They have been building and getting closer. The Chiefs have only needed to add a piece here and there. It's obvious that Beane isn't satisfied that they are still not quite there. He said the emotions are still a bit raw to be talking about any specific changes at this point, but they will evaluate things and go from there. If he keeps whiffing on our top draft picks, they're more than likely never going to be able to close the gap though. Edited 11 hours ago by Billz4ever 1 Quote
SCBills Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Like Diggs? Do you think Diggs was ever on the level in big moments as Hill, Kelce and Jones? Looking back, he was never that guy. 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Do you think Diggs was ever on the level in big moments as Hill, Kelce and Jones? Looking back, he was never that guy. *here Minnesota Miracle 1 Quote
Process Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago Not much to take from that PC. People are overreacting to what Beane says as if it actually means anything I do like that he called out the officiating. His comments on Keon and Dalton are concerning. Sounds like they want Dalton getting in better shape/stronger. And he sounded very disappointed in Coleman and his attitude and play after coming back from injury. Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Anybody know what time the clapper comes on? Quote
Einstein Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 8 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: another quote along with that, "what got you here won't get you there." https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/258719-in-some-ways-this-is-worse-than-the-drought-in-my-opinion/page/9/#findComment-9503810 Quote
tigerthelion Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: Do you think Diggs was ever on the level in big moments as Hill, Kelce and Jones? Looking back, he was never that guy. Playoff Diggs is around Keon's level. Complete disappearing act. Quote
Beast Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) Hollins had the kind of season I was hoping from Coleman. (Clutch wise) Also, I’m excited to see what a healthy Curtis Samuel can do in this offense. Edited 11 hours ago by Beast 1 2 Quote
Pete Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 47 minutes ago, KentuckyBillsFan said: Chris Jones - 2nd round pick Travis Kelce - 3rd round pick George Karlaftis - 2nd round pick Trent McDuffie - Late 1st Round Pick Isiah Pacheco - 7th round pick Leo Chenal - 3rd round pick Rashee Rice - 2nd round pick Xavier Worthy - Late 1st round pick It's such a pathetic excuse. Nico Collins and Terry McClauren were both 3rd round picks. Maybe if we drafted more WRs we would of hit 4 1 2 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, extrahammer said: Beane seems defensive He needs to step back and take an realistic view of his last few drafts 1 hour ago, RkFast said: "The end result was unaccetpable to the people in this buiding and we will review and evalute all aspects of the organization to get over the hump." All that needs to be said. It's SOSDD,we hear the same stuff every year. 1 Quote
Breakout Squad Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Every fan is frustrated and should be. We didn’t get to the Super Bowl. But the hot takes of saying Beane doesn’t know what he’s doing and can’t draft are stupid. And you would think people would know his last name is spelled B-E-A-N-E. The guy isn’t a freakin Lima bean. 2 1 Quote
Augie Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 18 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: apparently, you love underperforming and excusing bad draft picks. With all those terrible draft picks, how on earth did we manage to get to the AFCCG? If we draft so terribly, it sounds like we are over performing. We seem to have a logic issue. . Edited 11 hours ago by Augie 1 4 Quote
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