Beane/McDermott End of season press conferences (Beane live now, Sean at 2pm)

[BananaB]

32 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

2 years in a row Bills had the opportunity to go down and score to take the lead, and Spags came up with a plan to prevent that.

Last year we held the ball for close to 40 minutes and KC scored 27 points. This year our D gave up 21 in the first half and 32 total to a team that could averaged about 21 all year…. Our O is good it’s the reason we win so many games. Yeah they came up short in crunch time but that doesn’t eliminate what happened all game. The D also stepped on the field with 3 timeouts in bothe games at the end and both times couldn’t make the stop. They also gave up a TD on the first drive of the game in 3 straight playoff games this year. The D is the problem. McD gotta be better against Andy

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[ToGoGo]

2 hours ago, Neo said:

 

 

I have no doubt that unsatisfying arrangement is true.   I prefer my errors be kept private, too.   I’m musing.   I would love to see a “Go ahead, fine me.    Here’s what the league said” moment.  You can be accountable, or you can go with the flow knowing the league prefers you do just that.  I’m not fooling myself.  I’m saying “Big Baller Beane” leaves me a little unsatisfied.

 

In the words of the great philosopher Shania Twain, “that don’t impress me much.”

It’s not about getting a fine. They can ruin your career. You don’t get against the Shield. 

[Alphadawg7]

3 hours ago, Neo said:

 

Yes, but that’s not what I’m asking for.  Forgive my lack of clarity.

 

We all disagree with the calls.  I’d love to hear the argument he makes and the league’s response while both are looking at the film.   An explanation of you will.   I am a seeker of clarity, acknowledging nothing changes the outcome.  Others want less.   To each his own.   

 

He disagrees?   Why, and what did the league say?   He stopped at “oh, well …”.    

 

Fair, but he also verbatim said he can't talk about it, even the reporter who posed the question to him about the refs said while asking him the question he knows he is not allowed to talk too much about it as he asked him.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, BananaB said:

Last year we held the ball for close to 40 minutes and KC scored 27 points. This year our D gave up 21 in the first half and 32 total to a team that could averaged about 21 all year…. Our O is good it’s the reason we win so many games. Yeah they came up short in crunch time but that doesn’t eliminate what happened all game. The D also stepped on the field with 3 timeouts in bothe games at the end and both times couldn’t make the stop. They also gave up a TD on the first drive of the game in 3 straight playoff games this year. The D is the problem. McD gotta be better against Andy

 

I think both are the problem. The D definitely needs to get better in those games. I have said my piece on the gameplan in the first half on Sunday. It was different to all the other playoff games against KC and decidedly worse. If the Bills want to "man up" against them they need different personnel. Ending up with Damar Hamlin Rasul Douglas and Taron Johnson trying to compete in man defense against the speed of Worthy and Hollywood Brown is not ever going to be a winning strategy. I know we played more man against them in the first game in the regular season and it worked, but Worthy has come on a bunch since then and they didn't have Hollywood and we lost Rapp and Benford. It ended up just a bad strategy and a mismatch. 

 

But when you have an elite Quarterback and you get the ball back at the end of a playoff game with plenty of time and needing a touchdown to win you are supposed to win, or at LEAST do a 2021 and get the touchdown and then ask your defense to hang on for a very short period. When Beane said "give me the ball down 3, three minutes left to go to the superbowl and we have #17 again next year, I'd sign for it" he is right. When you have Josh Allen you should absolutely sign for that, That the Bills have failed there two years running is not good enough. I think we are all agreed that while he might not have done everything perfectly on either of those final drives the problem is not Josh Allen so you have to work out what it is. I think our total lack of threat down the football field is it. We have won since Brady took over by being a methodical offense. We sustain drives and we move the football. But in the crunch when we have to score fast our lack of true downfield options becomes an issue. And it invited the exotic blitzes from Spags. Is he as willing to send the house on 4th down if the Bills are running Brian Thomas Jnr down the field rather than Dalton Kincaid or Khalil Shakir? Maybe he would. But I'd fancy our chance of making him pay much better. 

[Alphadawg7]

12 hours ago, jaybeezee said:

Belichick is a multi SB winning coach dude! Let's compare apples to apples now. 

 

Brady called a bad game! Face the facts. So did Babich

 

16th best offense in history...numerous NFL records by the offense and players on the offense.  But you want to complain about the OC?

[Simon]

18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

But in the crunch when we have to score fast our lack of true downfield options becomes an issue.

 

They didn't have any trouble scoring fast at the end of the first half when they went 75 yrds for a TD in 1:30.

Or at the end of the first half of the Ravens game when they went 70 yrds for a TD in under 3:30.

 

And they didn't need to score fast vs the Chiefs.

There were 3:30 minutes left, the 2 minute warning and they had three TO's in their pocket. If anything they were likely going to have to burn some clock at the other end.

Yet they somehow completely ignored the best weapon on their offense because they felt panicky and rushed.

This is more of a coaching issue than any perceived lack of downfield threat, imo.

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

They didn't have any trouble scoring fast at the end of the first half when they went 75 yrds for a TD in 1:30.

Or at the end of the first half of the Ravens game when they went 70 yrds for a TD in under 3:30.

 

And they didn't need to score fast vs the Chiefs.

There were 3:30 minutes left, the 2 minute warning and they had three TO's in their pocket. If anything they were likely going to have to burn some clock at the other end.

Yet they somehow completely ignored the best weapon on their offense because they felt panicky and rushed.

This is more of a coaching issue than any perceived lack of downfield threat, imo.

 

I agree not having Cook out there was a mistake. In fact Cook only having 13 carries when averaging 6.5 yards per carry was an error. He was our best offensive player on the day. Give him the ball. That's on Joe Brady same as the week before it was on Ben Johnson when he took it out of Gibbs's hands.

 

End of first half and end of game are different though and I don't think one really replicates the other. End of half defenses are generally gonna play in the shell and make you go underneath a bit more. End of game when a touchdown would make you strong favourites to win the game (doesn't seal it depending on time but does make you strong favourites) teams are gonna be a bit more aggressive. 

 

I think not having a downfield threat does hurt there. 

[jaybeezee]

10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

16th best offense in history...numerous NFL records by the offense and players on the offense.  But you want to complain about the OC?

and we are in Cancun, so it doesn't matter what we did, or continue to do during the regular season if we get bounced pretty much the same way every year!

Just now, jaybeezee said:

and we are in Cancun, so it doesn't matter what we did, or continue to do during the regular season if we get bounced pretty much the same way every year!

Put everything you have on Philly! You will see a smart coach manhandle that anemic offense and the refs! Weve made numerous offenses look really good this year, including KC's. 

 

16th best offense ever, couldnt even get one 1st down with the SB on the line!

[Neo]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Fair, but he also verbatim said he can't talk about it, even the reporter who posed the question to him about the refs said while asking him the question he knows he is not allowed to talk too much about it as he asked him.

 

 

I understand.    However, he can talk about it.   There may be a fine, of course.   That’s the big baller beane I’d love to see.   Someone, for heaven’s sake, get outraged.

 

For the record, I’m not a conspiracy theorist.   I don’t think anyone had the fix in for the Chiefs.    That said, we all saw the same replay the officials saw.    I want to know how you can watch that and not make the right call.

 

I’ve been watching for decades.   I would simply love to see someone say “enough, I’m going to talk on behalf of the fans, supporters and ticket buyers.”  Consequences?   Bring it.    We’ve all seen fines.   Pegula should throw a parade and pay the fine.

 

That’s MY Big Baller Beane.    It was so Milquetoast.

 

Carry on …

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[ngbills]

How does smiley have a job still? How many long returns, blocked kicks, fakes, etc do we need to see? 

[RiotAct]

4 minutes ago, ngbills said:

How does smiley have a job still? How many long returns, blocked kicks, fakes, etc do we need to see? 

I’m okay with him having a job……. with another team.

[uticaclub]

4 hours ago, Neo said:

 

 

I have no doubt that unsatisfying arrangement is true.   I prefer my errors be kept private, too.   I’m musing.   I would love to see a “Go ahead, fine me.    Here’s what the league said” moment.  You can be accountable, or you can go with the flow knowing the league prefers you do just that.  I’m not fooling myself.  I’m saying “Big Baller Beane” leaves me a little unsatisfied.

 

In the words of the great philosopher Shania Twain, “that don’t impress me much.”

Start calling him “Bad Budget Beane” and it might improve your satisfaction 

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, Neo said:

 

 

I understand.    However, he can talk about it.   There may be a fine, of course.   That’s the big baller beane I’d love to see.   Someone, for heaven’s sake, get outraged.

 

For the record, I’m not a conspiracy theorist.   I don’t think anyone had the fix in for the Chiefs.    That said, we all saw the same replay the officials saw.    I want to know how you can watch that and not make the right call.

 

I’ve been watching for decades.   I would simply love to see someone say “enough, I’m going to talk on behalf of the fans, supporters and ticket buyers.”  Consequences?   Bring it.    We’ve all seen fines.   Pegula should throw a parade and pay the fine.

 

That’s MY Big Baller Beane.    It was so Milquetoast.

 

Carry on …

 

Oh I don't disagree with you about the calls, its mind blowing they blew the Worthy non-catch, missed the Kincaid first down (but that is also partly on our own staff for not challenging but instead hurrying up trying to sneak it) and 2 plays later denying Allen the first down he clearly got.  

 

I don't think it was a "fix" per se, but the problem with the Chiefs is that they are so good that when a ref blows a call it can be monumental in the outcome of the game.  The Chiefs don't make many, if any, mistakes in crunch time or close games.  So when the refs do something to take a drive away from their opponent, make a bad call to extend a Chiefs drive, etc it makes over taking the Chiefs a near impossible feat without absolute perfection by their opponent.  

 

We have robots on Mars we can talk to and exchange data with...you can't tell me they can't get some tech to determine where the ball should rightfully be spotted in a timely fashion.

[TheFunPolice]

Did either guy mention the potential use of the "simulate to playoffs" option rather than going through the regular season?

 

It feels like preseason lasts until January now. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

They didn't have any trouble scoring fast at the end of the first half when they went 75 yrds for a TD in 1:30.

Or at the end of the first half of the Ravens game when they went 70 yrds for a TD in under 3:30.

 

And they didn't need to score fast vs the Chiefs.

There were 3:30 minutes left, the 2 minute warning and they had three TO's in their pocket. If anything they were likely going to have to burn some clock at the other end.

Yet they somehow completely ignored the best weapon on their offense because they felt panicky and rushed.

This is more of a coaching issue than any perceived lack of downfield threat, imo.

I am going to chalk that up to inexperience on Bradys end.  We have to hope he will improve, and I think he will.

[Buffalo Ballin]

I trust Josh Allen, James Cook, Khalil Shakir, and Connor McGovern. Maybe even Matt Milano and Damar Hamlin.

 

I don't trust Beane and McDermott.

[ngbills]

2 hours ago, RiotAct said:

I’m okay with him having a job……. with another team.

Like KC or anyone in the AFC East

[harmonkillebrew]

5 hours ago, BananaB said:

Last year we held the ball for close to 40 minutes and KC scored 27 points. This year our D gave up 21 in the first half and 32 total to a team that could averaged about 21 all year…. Our O is good it’s the reason we win so many games. Yeah they came up short in crunch time but that doesn’t eliminate what happened all game. The D also stepped on the field with 3 timeouts in bothe games at the end and both times couldn’t make the stop. They also gave up a TD on the first drive of the game in 3 straight playoff games this year. The D is the problem. McD gotta be better against Andy

D was definitely the weak link this year and needs to be fixed.

But the O needs a clutch, go-to player beyond Josh. Cook is almost that player, but a real triumvirate of offensive stars would help get us pass the Chiefs in those critical moments. 

[BananaB]

20 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said:

D was definitely the weak link this year and needs to be fixed.

But the O needs a clutch, go-to player beyond Josh. Cook is almost that player, but a real triumvirate of offensive stars would help get us pass the Chiefs in those critical moments. 

The critical moments would be a non issue if we got better play from the D right. It’s been the weakness for years and needs to be fixed. McD and Beane always give the bull#### about being a couple plays away, but when the same ***** keeps happening there is a bigger issue. With the Bills it’s the defensive system has not held up when we needed it to. When your D gives up 21 points on the first 4 drives and the O is facing the best D in the league there is a good chance you are playing catch up. 

[harmonkillebrew]

1 minute ago, BananaB said:

The critical moments would be a non issue if we got better play from the D right. It’s been the weakness for years and needs to be fixed. McD and Beane always give the bull#### about being a couple plays away, but when the same ***** keeps happening there is a bigger issue. With the Bills it’s the defensive system has not held up when we needed it to. When your D gives up 21 points on the first 4 drives and the O is facing the best D in the league there is a good chance you are playing catch up. 

To some degree, but when you start going up against the best teams, the talent and coaching is just too level. It comes down to who is the most clutch. And KC has proven over and over that that's them. 

 

unless you're the '85 Bears and just annihilate lesser teams. Which I wouldn't mind either....