Beane/McDermott End of season press conferences (Beane live now, Sean at 2pm)

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Loved what McDermott said about James Cook. But how do you have player in the zone, you can see he’s in the zone, but don’t put him in the field in crunch time?

 

These are the decisions that lose games vs the Chiefs. McDermott should’ve been on the radio with Joe Brady and saying to feed Cook.

[nosejob]

3 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Well they drafted defensive tackle Jordan Davis 13th overall, and then drafted Jalen Carter 9th overall in the next draft.

 

The last time the Bills picked in the top 20 picks of the draft was 6 years ago. Eagles had more down years recently to restock the cupboards. Bills are a victim of their own success.

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[Kelly to Allen]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Loved what McDermott said about James Cook. But how do you have player in the zone, you can see he’s in the zone, but don’t put him in the field in crunch time?

 

These are the decisions that lose games vs the Chiefs. McDermott should’ve been on the radio with Joe Brady and saying to feed Cook.

 

Pretty sure he was hurt....

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Pretty sure he was hurt....

He said it was Ty Johnson 2 minute drill, what they do all year. Cook wouldve went in if Johnson got tired.

 

I don’t understand the decision when you feel Cook is in a zone. Make an adjustment on the fly. Put Cook in the game!

Edited 7 hours ago by Buffalo_Stampede

[Einstein]

33 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

“Good season overall, obviously not the result, the ultimate goal that we were looking to accomplish," McDermott said. "When you can have the success that we've had through six out of seven years in the playoffs, I think is significant and hard to do, as well as four AFC East titles and now five-plus years of 10 plus wins is impressive and did not come easy. So, I applaud the organization, all involved, the team, the players and coaching staff. And we look forward to continuing to reach and strive for that ultimate goal of winning a world championship."

 

having success over the past seven years?  I thought Sean thinks they have all been failures?  Applaud the organization?  I thought it’s all a failure.  Success hasn’t been used by him, since his ONLY goal is the SB?

 

Seans view of the growth mindset is one I agree with.  Focus on growing consistently, address weaknesses - don’t IGNORE weaknesses, and have a single OKR to strive to.  “Only” and “Ultimate” are two different words for a reason.  You use only, Sean uses ultimate.  He understands that you can have success and still fail your ultimate goal.  Which he has stated several times in the past

 

I don’t think we actually disagree. I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. 

 

from a macro view of where the organization is now versus when Sean arrived, it is absolutely has been a success as far as turning around the organization. 

 

From a seasonal view (more micro), Seans very first sentence that you pasted, tells the entire story. They failed in their goal to win the Super Bowl. The very first thing he said. In the quote you gave us.

 

you seem to be confusing two different points that McDermott is making. And organizational point, and a seasonal point. Two very different things.

 

this is a binary league, with only one successful season and 31 failures.

 

The reason McDermott uses the term ultimate, is because they do have a mini goal in the season, which is to win the division. But that goal is only a steppingstone to the ultimate goal, which is to win the Super Bowl.  The only reason he cares about winning the division, is because it helps in getting to the Super Bowl. It guarantees a home playoff game.

 

So it’s not to be confused that he uses the term “ultimate” to mean that there is lots of little goals that he is happy about. No. The only goal other than the Super Bowl are just steppingstones that he feels they need to be accomplished in order to get to the Super Bowl.

 

It’s all about the Super Bowl.

Edited 6 hours ago by Einstein

[DapperCam]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

He said it was Ty Johnson 2 minute drill, what they do all year. Cook wouldve went in if Johnson got tired.

 

I don’t understand the decision when you feel Cook is in a zone. Make an adjustment on the fly. Put Cook in the game!

I have to imagine Ty Johnson being better in pass protection is probably why he’s on for the 2 minute offense (which will be almost all passes).

 

But there was plenty of time with the 2 minute warning and all 3 timeouts (and only needing a FG) to just run the normal offense. So if it’s true that they were in their 2 minute offense, then that is a coaching blunder in my eyes.

[ProcessTruster]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I don’t think we actually disagree. I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. 

 

from a macro view of where the organization is now versus when Sean arrived, it is absolutely been a assess as far as turning around the organization. 

 

From a seasonal view (more micro), Seans very first sentence that you pasted,tells the entire story. They failed in their goal to win the Super Bowl. first thing he said. In the quote you gave us.

 

you seem to be confusing two different points that McDermott is making. And organizational point, and a seasonal point. Two very different things.

 

this is a binary league, with only one successful season and 31 failures.

well with that attitude, guess you ain't buying any ticket to see that "failure" of a team.   more for me then, I guess.   .   

 

I sincerely hope you find a "successful" team to follow.   

[Einstein]

1 minute ago, ProcessTruster said:

well with that attitude, guess you ain't buying any ticket to see that "failure" of a team.   more for me then, I guess.   .   

 

There are no more tickets to be purchased for this season.

 

Next year will be a new team. They haven’t failed yet. Hopefully they won’t.  

[BillMafia716ix]

Common denominator in both pressers we are a few plays away from the narrative being completely different. Two years in a row we’ve had the ball last with an opportunity to win the game. We just didn’t make the game winning plays in the end. 
 

Great season overall. We exceeded expectations. Now let’s start building this defense and grab another playmaker at WR. 

[ProcessTruster]

7 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

There are no more tickets to be purchased for this season.

 

Next year will be a new team. They haven’t failed yet. Hopefully they won’t.  

I was referring to the secondary market for tickets.   Raises a great question; I wonder how much enthusiasm there will be among the season ticket base to attend regular season games vs. sell their tickets on Ticketmaster, etc.   I mean, by your criteria, this organization has failed for 60+ straight seasons and since, by your criteria, success is measured only by tournament success, why bother with the regular season games.   Just sell 'em and "see ya for the playoff games". 

 

I wonder to what extent your criteria has a/in fected the fanbase and created an apathy for the regular season. 

 

 Interesting.   Someone should start a poll and ask the question:  "do you care about the regular season anymore? " 

[jkeerie]

8 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Common denominator in both pressers we are a few plays away from the narrative being completely different. Two years in a row we’ve had the ball last with an opportunity to win the game. We just didn’t make the game winning plays in the end. 
 

Great season overall. We exceeded expectations. Now let’s start building this defense and grab another playmaker at WR. 

I agree.  Plays and players.  McD said you need 2 or 3 difference makers on each side of the ball to win a championship.  He didn't talk about whether the Bills have any, but the way he raved about Allen's and Cook's seasons, you got the impression we've got a couple offensively.  He did say they need to add a WR that can stretch the defense.  He didn't really single out anyone defensively unless he was specifically asked about a player.  Milano was mentioned and McD spoke about all the set backs he had physically this year.

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, ProcessTruster said:

I was referring to the secondary market for tickets.   Raises a great question; I wonder how much enthusiasm there will be among the season ticket base to attend regular season games vs. sell their tickets on Ticketmaster, etc.   I mean, by your criteria, this organization has failed for 60+ straight seasons and since, by your criteria, success is measured only by tournament success, why bother with the regular season games.   Just sell 'em and "see ya for the playoff games". 

 

I wonder to what extent your criteria has a/in fected the fanbase and created an apathy for the regular season. 

 

 Interesting.   Someone should start a poll and ask the question:  "do you care about the regular season anymore? " 

 

I would have to think tickets for next season will sell like crazy. Not only are they a good team that can compete for a Super Bowl but it's the last year at Rich, Ralph, New Era, Highmark Stadium. A 52-year run at the stadium coming to an end. Also, next year is the last year to buy tickets at reasonable prices. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

4 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

So here's the thing, and ofcourse I might be wrong, but next year will be very disappointing. I think this 4th loss to the Chiefs will be so debilitating that we go through a hangover year and struggle a bit and don't sniff the AFC championship game. Like next year is gonna be the year many were expecting this year. That step back. 

 

You still have the Chiefs, Healthy Burrow, the Pats will be much better, Herbert second year with Harbaugh, Stroud, Lamar, Denver will be better, the Raiders if they get a QB somehow will be better with Carroll, the Steelers are always a threat. AFC is shifting and Bills will likely get left behind if they don't make changes. 

 

Buffalo and this brain trust has just gotten stale and have not gotten the job done. I just don't see an avenue where that changes. 

 

After that disappointing year, at that point, I think these guys are done. 

Chiefs will be tough again, especially after they draft another burner at WR for the umpteenth year in a row.

Burrow will not be as successful without Higgins.

Pats can only get better, can’t get worse…but not a serious challenge.

Chargers will be the same, rely on run game and Herbert will throw head scratchers at random moments.

Stroud, a year of tape brought him back to slightly above average.

Lamar and Ravens will be a challenge, but if Henry finally hits the wall, they are playoff one and done.

Nix will have a year of tape, he is a middling QB.

Steelers…their seasons are like the month of March…in like a lion, out like a lamb.

Raiders? Carroll, much like Jimmy Johnson, rely on run game and superior talent. Thay aren’t out-scheming anyone, will need a top end QB, which they aren’t getting anytime too soon.

 

What does this mean? Bills are back in the AFCCG in 2026 baby!!!

 

 

[Coach Tuesday]

55 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I found it interesting they called out his physicality. To my eyes that wasn't the problem this year. Maybe as a blocker but not as a pass catcher. The problem was mostly mental and technical IMO. He doesn't do a good job of finding windows in zone or detailed route running to separate in man. He doesn't read leverage well with the ball in his hands. So sure go pump some iron this offseason but mostly I think he needs to watch some Travis Kelce film, compare it with his own, and learn how to make himself available to his QB. Make sight adjustments, subtly move to match Allen's movements and eyes, etc. The game needs to slow down for him.

 

He definitely needs to get stronger at the catch point and be able to fight through more arm tackles than he did this past season.  Also needs to improve his zone awareness.  It’s definitely both.

[Julio Hopkins]

47 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Well they drafted defensive tackle Jordan Davis 13th overall, and then drafted Jalen Carter 9th overall in the next draft.

 

The last time the Bills picked in the top 20 picks of the draft was 6 years ago. Eagles had more down years recently to restock the cupboards. Bills are a victim of their own success.

 

The Eagles traded up for both of those players.  The Eagles just hit on those players while the Bills whiffed on Oliver.  

[Einstein]

56 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I found it interesting they called out his physicality. To my eyes that wasn't the problem this year. Maybe as a blocker but not as a pass catcher. The problem was mostly mental and technical IMO. He doesn't do a good job of finding windows in zone or detailed route running to separate in man. He doesn't read leverage well with the ball in his hands. So sure go pump some iron this offseason but mostly I think he needs to watch some Travis Kelce film, compare it with his own, and learn how to make himself available to his QB. Make sight adjustments, subtly move to match Allen's movements and eyes, etc. The game needs to slow down for him.

 

 

As an aside - Watch the fade play to Coleman in the KC game. It was shocking how weak Coleman looked against McDuffie. He was stuck in place.

[DapperCam]

8 minutes ago, Julio Hopkins said:

 

The Eagles traded up for both of those players.  The Eagles just hit on those players while the Bills whiffed on Oliver.  

They traded from pick 10 to pick 9 for Carter.

 

They traded from pick 15 to pick 13 for Davis.

 

My original point stands…

[Aussie Joe]

1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:

They're going to have a truly great team next year. Like possibly 15-2 great.

Probably… unfortunately the AFC Championship game will still be in Arrowhead 

[Julio Hopkins]

7 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

They traded from pick 10 to pick 9 for Carter.

 

They traded from pick 15 to pick 13 for Davis.

 

My original point stands…

 

My mistake, I thought they used their first round pick that draft to get Carter.  

[Steptide]

Maybe I'm still bitter about the loss, but the whole "we didn't beat kc but we had a great season" mentality drives me nuts. I know McDermott said repeatedly that they don't get complacent, but it's just the same thing year after year at this point