Beane/McDermott End of season press conferences (Beane live now, Sean at 2pm)

[JMM]

Smiley is coming back?? Ok I just lost a LOT of confidence in this team and organization.  For TWO years now, ST has been a train wreck, including the big return in the game Sunday that directly led to points. So a THIRD of this team will not be up to standards, let alone championship level. It's baffling and VERY disappointing. 

[LabattBlue]

Your OC, DC & ST coaches all have minimal experience in those roles. How does this make sense for a team with SB aspirations…unless this is what McD wants…a bunch of inexperienced guys who will be beholden to him for the chance?

[nosejob]

Not to heap praise on other teams, but wasn't Philly in the SB a couple of years ago?....and then draft Q. Mitchell and DeJean, while building a Bulldog Dline?

Why can't Beane do that? Too consumed with finding occasional late round talent?

Edited 8 hours ago by nosejob

[RiotAct]

7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Good news is there are zero excuses next year. A lot of bad cap space is coming off the books, Allen will likely be extended to lower his cap hit, all the coaches are back, the core of the roster will all be back, and we have a lot of draft picks. This was a rebuild/reload year. Okay, fine. Next year has to be the one then.

next year for SURE!

 

😢

[RkFast]

19 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Ok, good for you.  The point remains — Brandon Beane isn’t telling you all during his end of season PC what he plans to do, and getting upset or frustrated about it is ridiculous.

 

 

Of course not! I get that. I just dont like the defensive and passive tone he had. I expected more out of him in that regard. Remember the "it pissed me off?" press conference? I wanted more of THAT out of him today. 

[HappyDays]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Why? He didn't from the plays the year before.

 

This years low light real contains the NFL's first kickoff return for a TD under the new rules and TWO converted fake punts against us in addition to another smattering of big plays allowed.

 

Maybe, IDK...get someone that's already learned those lessons and knows what they are doing.

 

I'm somewhere between minor disappointment and nonchalance about it. The whole operation in all three phases was not good enough when it mattered. Fire Smiley or don't. Whatever.

 

I have basically no thoughts positive or negative about anything that was said today. Either these guys are going to make the necessary changes to get us over the hump, or they will continue to waste Allen's career. I don't expect them to prostrate themselves in front of the media or explain their entire offseason plan. Just get it done.

 

Edited 8 hours ago by HappyDays

[Kelly to Allen]

1 minute ago, RkFast said:

 

Of course not! I get that. I just dont like the defensive and passive tone he had. I expected more out of him in that regard. Remember the "it pissed me off?" press conference? I wanted more of THAT out of him today. 

 

For all of our emotions and ppl ranting the past few days including myself. They're close. I do think there's a demarcation with kc that has to be overcome. 

 

He's gotta get a pass rusher and a couple CBS

 

We need a great speed deep threat at wr too

 

And we gotta get the one seed

[Cray51]

9 minutes ago, Einstein said:

Then you're in disagreement with the Head Coach of the football team.

I'm thankful that McD doesn't agree with you. It makes me proud of him.

The only goal is a Super Bowl. That's it. The freinds we made along the way doesnt matter. Anything but a Super Bowl and the season is a failure.

Not to jump on this, but I find you so wrong in your view I feel I have to.

 

Sean LAST YEAR after their loss:

 

“Good season overall, obviously not the result, the ultimate goal that we were looking to accomplish," McDermott said. "When you can have the success that we've had through six out of seven years in the playoffs, I think is significant and hard to do, as well as four AFC East titles and now five-plus years of 10 plus wins is impressive and did not come easy. So, I applaud the organization, all involved, the team, the players and coaching staff. And we look forward to continuing to reach and strive for that ultimate goal of winning a world championship."

 

having success over the past seven years?  I thought Sean thinks they have all been failures?  Applaud the organization?  I thought it’s all a failure.  Success hasn’t been used by him, since his ONLY goal is the SB?

 

Seans view of the growth mindset is one I agree with.  Focus on growing consistently, address weaknesses - don’t IGNORE weaknesses, and have a single OKR to strive to.  “Only” and “Ultimate” are two different words for a reason.  You use only, Sean uses ultimate.  He understands that you can have success and still fail your ultimate goal.  Which he has stated several times in the past

[Kelly to Allen]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'm somewhere between minor disappointment and nonchalance about it. The whole operation in all three phases was not good enough when it mattered. Fire Smiley or don't. Whatever.

 

I have basically no thoughts positive or negative about anything that was said today. Either these guys are going to make the necessary changes to get us over the hump, or they will continue to waste Allen's career. I don't expect them to prostrate themselves in front of the media or explain their entire offseason plan. Just get it done.

 

 

They almost won the AFC championship vs the greatest dynasty in a long time in a reset year....

 

I'm choosing to be positive 

 

They're on schedule similar to the 88 team imo if they have a good draft and get a real pass rusher 

Edited 8 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[RiotAct]

7 minutes ago, JMM said:

Smiley is coming back?? Ok I just lost a LOT of confidence in this team and organization.  For TWO years now, ST has been a train wreck, including the big return in the game Sunday that directly led to points. So a THIRD of this team will not be up to standards, let alone championship level. It's baffling and VERY disappointing. 

agree there, we should be able to do better at Special Teams Coordinator than him… pretty easily, too

[Blank Stare]

21 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Hmm that's disappointing. Oh well.

I’ve been pretty quiet since the playoff defeat, yet lurking for an update for what I found to be a virtual inevitability that Smiley would be canned. A sign that they show me you get it.
 

Frankly, I don’t think we are watching the same game as McD. Smiley, to anyone, has clearly been a train wreck. A joke of a coach. The guy should’ve been fired last year and now he’s bought himself a third year. How is that possible. Our ST is often caught unprepared by the opposing team. Unimaginative, lack of creativity, long returns, blocked punts, bass struggles.  What is one good thing he’s done? Codrington (who they refused to play in the playoffs)?  Under him, I’m happy when I see the damn punter just get the punt off. 
 

I’d much rather have Crossman or Farwell back as ST coordinator at this point. And I hated Crossman. But not at the level I despise Smiley. Just one of McD’s buddies getting to learn on the job. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Blank Stare

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Listening to Sean talk, it's not hard to love the guy. He's very genuine. Emotional talking about that fire to bring the trophy home. 

Let's make the tweaks we gotta make with these resources we've got, and get better. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

40 minutes ago, sven233 said:

I haven't had the time to listen to the presser yet, but for those that did, did anyone ask him specifically about the lack of speed and explosion at the WR position?  By the time the season ended, teams were just sitting 15 yards of the LOS because they didn't respect any WR we had deep down the field.  It's one of the biggest reasons our offense struggled in the playoffs.  When teams realize nobody is even going to try and get behind them, you are so much easier to defend.  But when you have a couple threats on the outside that can completely change a game in an instant with their speed, it completely opens up the middle of the field where Allen loves to live.  By the end of the Playoffs, it seemed like 50% of throws were either at or behind the LOS on screens and the other half were 10 yard drag routes hoping someone would get lost in the shuffle.  Josh Allen is your freaking QB and you are basically neutering him with the players and lack of speed we have at the WR position.

 

It seems like the topic of Coleman was brought up and how he is pretty much exactly the player he was in college that wasn't worth anywhere near a 2nd round pick, but he's not the only player on this team that struggles separating and lacks the top end speed necessary to open up this offense.  I said immediately after the draft last year that we would be coming into this year with the same exact needs......  a true WR1 with speed and explosion and an elite pass rusher.  And.....whelp....here we are.

He said we definitely need to be able to stretch the field vertically as well as horizontally. He says it doesn't necessarily need to be a #1 WR per say, but yes we need to be able to do that. 

[HappyDays]

57 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I do like that they called him and Kincaid out. It's not usually their way, but we need more from those guys. 

 

I found it interesting they called out his physicality. To my eyes that wasn't the problem this year. Maybe as a blocker but not as a pass catcher. The problem was mostly mental and technical IMO. He doesn't do a good job of finding windows in zone or detailed route running to separate in man. He doesn't read leverage well with the ball in his hands. So sure go pump some iron this offseason but mostly I think he needs to watch some Travis Kelce film, compare it with his own, and learn how to make himself available to his QB. Make sight adjustments, subtly move to match Allen's movements and eyes, etc. The game needs to slow down for him.

 

Edited 8 hours ago by HappyDays

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 minute ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Listening to Sean talk, it's not hard to love the guy. He's very genuine. Emotional talking about that fire to bring the trophy home. 

Let's make the tweaks we gotta make with these resources we've got, and get better. 

I hate to admit it, but he has a different tone and attitude (in a good way) in the year end presser vs years past.  We will see...

[Kelly to Allen]

4 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Listening to Sean talk, it's not hard to love the guy. He's very genuine. Emotional talking about that fire to bring the trophy home. 

Let's make the tweaks we gotta make with these resources we've got, and get better. 

 

I get mad at him sometimes but he's a tremendous leader and good guy. It's hard not to root for him. He is from an internal toughness and character standpoint everything you want in a HC 

 

He is underrated in many respects too. I get mad at him tho 

 

I was really upset for a few days after the AFC championship 

Edited 8 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[nosejob]

6 minutes ago, Blank Stare said:

I’ve been pretty quiet since the playoff defeat, yet lurking for an update for what I found to be a virtual inevitability that Smiley would be canned. A sign that they show me you get it.
 

Frankly, I don’t think we are watching the same game as McD. Smiley, to anyone, has clearly been a train wreck. A joke of a coach. The guy should’ve been fired last year and now he’s bought himself a third year. How is that possible. Our ST is often caught unprepared by the opposing team. Unimaginative, lack of creativity, long returns, blocked punts, bass struggles.  What is one good thing he’s done? Codrington (who they refused to play in the playoffs)?  Under him, I’m happy when I see the damn punter just get the punt off. 
 

I’d much rather have Crossman or Farwell back as ST coordinator at this point. And I hated Crossman. But not at the level I despise Smiley. Just one of McD’s buddies getting to learn on the job. 

Farwell got screwed....which ended up hurting us.

[Negan]

Babich needs to teach his ends about outside contain no matter what against the Chiefs.  This is elementary fundamental football.  FFS

[DapperCam]

15 minutes ago, nosejob said:

Not to heap praise on other teams, but wasn't Philly in the SB a couple of years ago?....and then draft Q. Mitchell and DeJean, while building a Bulldog Dline?

Why can't Beane do that? Too consumed with finding occasional late round talent?

Well they drafted defensive tackle Jordan Davis 13th overall, and then drafted Jalen Carter 9th overall in the next draft.

 

The last time the Bills picked in the top 20 picks of the draft was 6 years ago. Eagles had more down years recently to restock the cupboards. Bills are a victim of their own success.

[Kelly to Allen]

32 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Good news is there are zero excuses next year. A lot of bad cap space is coming off the books, Allen will likely be extended to lower his cap hit, all the coaches are back, the core of the roster will all be back, and we have a lot of draft picks. This was a rebuild/reload year. Okay, fine. Next year has to be the one then.

They're going to have a truly great team next year. Like possibly 15-2 great.

Edited 8 hours ago by Kelly to Allen