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Question for those of you who are sure it’s all rigged: do you still bet on games?  If yes, um, are you insane?

 

The NFL will only fix the officiating problem if it keeps bettors on the sideline.  Period.

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1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Question for those of you who are sure it’s all rigged: do you still bet on games?  If yes, um, are you insane?

 

The NFL will only fix the officiating problem if it keeps bettors on the sideline.  Period.

We just saw another NBA betting scandal (Terry Rozier) pop off today.  This stuff is just going to get worse and worse with all the legalized gambling going on.  Seriously making me consider whether sports watching is even worth my time at this point.

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1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said:

We just saw another NBA betting scandal (Terry Rozier) pop off today.  This stuff is just going to get worse and worse with all the legalized gambling going on.  Seriously making me consider whether sports watching is even worth my time at this point.


Gambling will have to be the impetus for change if there ever is any.

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8 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

No excuses, Allen had the ball with 2 minutes left and 3 timeouts. Brady needed to call better plays and Allen needed better execution. The ball was in their hands, could have drove it down the field with literally 0 time left.

The Bills scored 29 points. It’s not Allen and the offenses fault. It’s the defenses if you want to blame someone on the team.

 

Don’t make yourself sound so stupid. 

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14 minutes ago, BillytheKid said:

The Bills scored 29 points. It’s not Allen and the offenses fault. It’s the defenses if you want to blame someone on the team.

 

Don’t make yourself sound so stupid. 

 

I don't think I sound stupid but if you do that's your opinion bud.

 

Did Allen not have the ball with 2 minutes left and 3 timeouts? Did we win the game? That's on Brady as the OC, The Players including Allen imo and clearly you don't agree but how does what I'm saying make me sound stupid? Just curious.

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10 hours ago, Pete said:

lots of plays left on the table, and multiple horrible Ref decisions cost us the game.  There are multiple photos that show Josh got the 4th and 1

There was even an overhead camera view that confirmed that over half the ball crossed the 40.  Not to mention 4-5 embarrassing spots.  I said before the game even started we didn't stand a chance.

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10 hours ago, Casey D said:

Sure.  There were multiple calls and non-calls that were wrong.  On the Elam facemask, the receiver had Elam's facemask too.   On the 4th down tush push that failed, on the play before (3rd down) Knox or Dawson(can't remember which) made the line to gain but was marked short.  On the subsequent play Allen clearly made it from multiple angles that he got about 1/3 of the ball over the line to gain but was called short. 

 

Other examples, on a key short yardage Chris Jones was clearly offside-- 2/3 of his head is over the line-- which allowed him to blow up the play.  On the KC punt return, a flagrant block in the back was not called.  The Bishop/Worthy call, clearly the ball hit the ground.  Hollins was called for an illegal formation when he asked the ref if he was OK, the ref said yes, then called a penalty anyway. There were more.

 

He also points out that Allen reverted to hero ball at times, and did not take critical gains he could have gotten on checkdowns.  Also, a key bad throw to Samuel that was a short pass that would have been a huge gainer.  Says Allen makes the pass 999 out of 1000.

Groot being cut while engaged all night 

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12 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

Groot being cut while engaged all night 

 

If Kincaid makes that catch, we could have/would have overcome everything.

 

The holding, bad spots, the block in the back on the return, the catch that wasn't, the brillance of the Spags blitz, the constantly ineffective tush pushes, failed 2 point conversions, you name it. 

 

We had the clutch plays that we needed, Hollins TD, Cook TD, Milano sack, Phillips sack, Samuel TD, Oliver fumble recovery.

 

Sure there were other plays we didn't make but we were so close yet so far and at the very least those Chiefs fans would have felt a miniscule amount of postseason pain inflicted on them by the Buffalo Bills. 

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My view is that had the 50/50 or 60/40 calls gone the Bills way they still could have lost. However, when you have a tight margins playoff game, those calls can be a difference when margins are that way. It is disheartening as a fan and very frustrating. 

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3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Question for those of you who are sure it’s all rigged: do you still bet on games?  If yes, um, are you insane?

 

The NFL will only fix the officiating problem if it keeps bettors on the sideline.  Period.

Also if you think it's fixed then you also have to believe that ALL the owners are in on it. So yeah. The Pegulas want KC to win. 
 

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12 hours ago, Pete said:

lots of plays left on the table, and multiple horrible Ref decisions cost us the game.  There are multiple photos that show Josh got the 4th and 1


In a few views, it looked like he may have gotten the ball past the line. But if he did, it was by an inch or two. 
 

These guys often have to look at 12 different views of a play in slow motion for 10 minutes to get it right…and sometimes it’s STILL questionable. Yet people expect them to be perfect on a call this close in real time? 
 

If people want to be objective, they should ask why a blatant facemask wasn’t called, which would have set the Chiefs up for a FG try at minimum. Or how they interpreted an obvious Offside as a false start, turning what should have been 3rd and 5 into 3rd and 15. Both calls directly led to KC’s only punts of the game.
 

These were the most blatant missed calls in the game. 
 

 

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12 hours ago, Casey D said:

Sure.  There were multiple calls and non-calls that were wrong.  On the Elam facemask, the receiver had Elam's facemask too.   On the 4th down tush push that failed, on the play before (3rd down) Knox or Dawson(can't remember which) made the line to gain but was marked short.  On the subsequent play Allen clearly made it from multiple angles that he got about 1/3 of the ball over the line to gain but was called short. 

 

Other examples, on a key short yardage Chris Jones was clearly offside-- 2/3 of his head is over the line-- which allowed him to blow up the play.  On the KC punt return, a flagrant block in the back was not called.  The Bishop/Worthy call, clearly the ball hit the ground.  Hollins was called for an illegal formation when he asked the ref if he was OK, the ref said yes, then called a penalty anyway. There were more.

 

He also points out that Allen reverted to hero ball at times, and did not take critical gains he could have gotten on checkdowns.  Also, a key bad throw to Samuel that was a short pass that would have been a huge gainer.  Says Allen makes the pass 999 out of 1000.

On the Bishop/Worthy play I think Bishop had control. It wasn’t an incomplete pass. It was an interception and we got robbed. 

Posted
13 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

Here is some salient text from Jim's conclusion:
 

Allen didn’t play his best football game, and neither did the Bills’ offense. The Chiefs overpowered the Bills’ offensive line at times while Allen felt the pressure of needing to do more.

 

There were also numerous times in which Chiefs players appeared to benefit from officiating calls and no-calls.

 

The offensive game plan by Brady was solid – but early in the game, Allen didn’t take what the defense gave him. He pressed. He reached. He tried to make plays rather than reading and reacting and taking the completions that were available to him.

 

Admiringly, Allen has transformed himself into an MVP-level player, and in doing so, he changed the way he plays the game....

 

The evidence tells me that Allen and the Bills franchise will one day bring the Lombardi Trophy to Buffalo. Returning and developing this team, with these coaches, is the very best beginning to that end.

 

I believe Kubiak's final statement strongly, but with 3 straight playoff games vs KC where it was so close that all we needed was a single call (or a single bounce) I'm starting to get a little worried (honestly... terrified) that we're cursed and Allen is going to get the Super Bowl (honestly... multiple) that he deserves.

 

Allen deserves a Lombardi.... even more than long suffering Bills fans

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