Jim Kubiak Analysis in BN-- How Officials Likely Cost the Bills the KC Game

[Olliemets]

In decompressing from this lost opportunity and reading everything across all internet platforms, the NFL has a huge credibility problem. And not just from this game. Yes, there are trolls and defenders of the Chiefs out there, but a significant majority of "likes" and comments I see everywhere are in agreement that the Bills got screwed.

 

Yes, my coaches always said don't leave anything in the hands of the refs, play better. And Brady got taken to the woodshed, etc.

 

But whether they get all the calls or not, most people believe they do. Perception is reality. 

 

It just sucks. 

[Pete]

21 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Amazing how they couldn't find the angles until after the Chrefs ran a couple plays. Sorta like "No Goal"

Kincaid made a first down on 3rd down.  He could of fought for a foot more.  Josh made it, multiple angles prove that. Huge point in the game!  The Bills were about to take control.  On KCs long return, our approaching gunner gets clipped in plain view, and this opens up for 40+ return.  Bills converted on 3rd down.  Refs call illegal formation. Mack and Alex both reported.  Mack was one yard off the line of scrimmage.  They were lined up legal- instead of new set of downs and momentum, a false IF call makes it 3rd and 15. In what universe is Worthy/Cole/Ground ruled a catch? Also, on Schnow Plow attempts-Chris Jones was lining up offside.  Other Chiefs were close to offside

Edited 14 hours ago by Pete

[chongli]

 

 

[JohnNord]

30 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yuuuuuup. Lots of luck involved.  Benfords injury and the refs = all the luck they needed

I’d argue that the 4th down spot was the turning point of the game.  Buffalo picks that up and I think they win.  

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

 

I thought the Kincaid reaching on 3rd down was an obvious first down as well.  Obviously the ref marked the ball where he thought  his knee was down but Kincaid made a great play to keep his knees elevated.  So the ball should have been marked where his elbow touched first and the ball was right on the yard line.  First down.  Unfortunately Buffalo rushed to the line, never took their time to have another look.  Prob just assumed Allen would get it on the next play and we know what happened.  Ugh.

I thought so too on Kincaid but I believe his left elbow hit while the ball

was short.  I had to watch it

a bunch of times to figure it out.  The spot on fourth down—and more so the process with the down judge taking the spot in spite of Allen’s back being to him—was absurd. 

[NewEra]

15 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

I’d argue that the 4th down spot was the turning point of the game.  Buffalo picks that up and I think they win.  

Agreed

6 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I thought so too on Kincaid but I believe his left elbow hit while the ball

was short.  I had to watch it

a bunch of times to figure it out.  The spot on fourth down—and more so the process with the down judge taking the spot in spite of Allen’s back being to him—was absurd. 

It what world does that make sense?  The finance world is the only answer I can come up with

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, colin said:

 

was he really?  do you have a link, or know what play he was hurt on?

 

tx

I read somewhere that he was with the trainers at the time.  Sorry, no link.  But…..there was a play down by the goal line in the late third quarter…..it might have been the play right before the TD but definitely within a few plays…..where Cook came back to the huddle looking at his hand and fidgeting.  At first I thought his glove might have just slipped loose a little but he kept working on it, looking at it.  He scored his 4th down TD after that so I thought he was ok but he wasn’t in there much more if at all for a while after.

[Scott7975]

 

[SectionC3]

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Agreed

It what world does that make sense?  The finance world is the only answer I can come up with

I don’t understand it.  I’d like to know who has precedence in that scenario.  I thought it would be the guy running the chains — the line judge — rather than the down judge (who took the spot).  I just don’t know.  Even if it’s the other way around, why the guy who couldn’t see the ball overrules the guy who saw the ball befuddles me. 

[Process]

QB sneaks are tough to spot because of the congestion. If there is a forward push and it appears close, the offense always get the benefit of the doubt. 

 

In this case we didn't even need benefit of the doubt because it was CLEAR and OBVIOUS he got it. 

 

It's just ridiculous. They didn't give us the first down, because they didn't want us to get the first down. Period. 

[T master]

2 hours ago, Casey D said:

https://buffalonews.com/sports/professional/nfl/bills/jim-kubiak-josh-allen-buffalo-bills-kansas-city-chiefs-film-review-afc-championship-game/article_4650eea0-de87-11ef-a2e7-a3585994bafc.html

 

Really good stuff.  He points out how Josh-- who he is a huge fan of-- did not play his best game, although he did lots of good things.  And the officiating was even worse than I thought based on his analysis.   Bad calls and lots of bad no-calls on KC that almost certainly changed the outcome.

 

I remember seeing one play that Kelsey was blatantly with out a doubt holding Roseau stopping him from getting around him & a flag was thrown and Kelsey turned to look at the ref to see if the call was on him & it was against the Bills . 

 

It's to bad no one has direct access to Goodell this is total BS and the Bills always seem to get the short end of the stick !! 

[Pete]

11 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I texted my Dad today- we usually talk on phone.  Our last text thread I was saying we were getting bad spots all game

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

No excuses, Allen had the ball with 2 minutes left and 3 timeouts. Brady needed to call better plays and Allen needed better execution. The ball was in their hands, could have drove it down the field with literally 0 time left.

[Casey D]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

No excuses, Allen had the ball with 2 minutes left and 3 timeouts. Brady needed to call better plays and Allen needed better execution. The ball was in their hands, could have drove it down the field with literally 0 time left.

These are not excuses, they are facts.  Could the Bills have overcome the officiating, sure.  If that's an excuse for losing, OK.  But it is a fact that the playing field was tilted.

[NoSaint]

They could’ve overcome themselves, or the refs, but not both 

[T master]

One of the things that should change but won't is the players and coaches should be able to have a way to call out the refs play with out being fined or made to sit out games if they do . Coaches have the all 22 or game tape and can see all the bad calls and if they see a terrible call or calls like in this game they have to keep quiet .

 

They need to go right to Roger and say hey WTH you need to do something like this but they can never go against "The Shield" which is total BS !! 

 

The calls always seem to go to protect the golden goose and it's been passed on from Brady & the Pats to KC & Mahomes . It's just not right that these types of calls be made in the video Cook made a first down Nance, Romo both called it and you can see beyond a shadow of a doubt made the yardage needed but it was set back over 2 yds WHY ?? 

 

Many of these calls were BS and definitely helped the Chiefs get to where they are now heading .

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

2 hours ago, Casey D said:

These are not excuses, they are facts.  Could the Bills have overcome the officiating, sure.  If that's an excuse for losing, OK.  But it is a fact that the playing field was tilted.

It’s irrelevant since the game was on the line Allen didn’t come through and had his shot. The refs were terrible but on that drive they were not the difference.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 hours ago, DaVinci said:

I will summarize it. You have the ball with 3 minutes left and you're best offensive player besides Allen is on the bench. On 4th down you run the play the Chiefs knew you were going to run.

[nosejob]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

No excuses, Allen had the ball with 2 minutes left and 3 timeouts. Brady needed to call better plays and Allen needed better execution. The ball was in their hands, could have drove it down the field with literally 0 time left.

So from now on this team has to make it too big to rig??

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

16 minutes ago, nosejob said:

So from now on this team has to make it too big to rig??

Do you see that written by me anywhere?