Other questionable games in NFL history

[poblano]

33 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

I am younger than you but your comment is not only not helpful but shows a complete ignorance of the history of football. If someone blames the officials for every loss your comment is valid, but when officials multiple times get the calls wrong and they all go one way then the criticism is valid and that is the point of the thread. The Cotton Bowl I am referring to is famous for its blatant one sided officiating but despite that Syracuse still won. 

 

 

 So  must to watch the "you can't beat KC an the referees all the time" thread

 

You must also understand that the football environment  in México is totally different to USA, actually you can watch almost everything you want, but back In the 90s (when i started to like football)  was totally different and didn't know about  what take as historical reference 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by poblano

[msw2112]

In my opinion, the no-call against (former Bill) Nikell Robey-Coleman for blatant pass interference in the Rams-Saints 2018 NFCCG was the most influential piece of bad officiating I've seen.  Roby-Coleman made no attempt to play the ball and drilled the receiver before the ball got there.  It was blatant pass interference and possibly a personal foul.  In a 20-20 tie game, the Saints should have had 1st and goal from the 7 yard line with 1:45 left with the Rams having 1 timeout.  They could have bled the clock down to close to zero and kicked the easy chip shot field goal which would have won the game and sent them to the Super Bowl.  The Saints were at home in their dome, so there would have been no issues for the kicker with noise, wind, rain, snow, etc.  Instead, it was an incomplete pass and ultimately the Rams won the game and went to the Super Bowl.

 

The Bills got screwed on the spot on 3rd and 4th downs in the 4th quarter, but did have another opportunity to win the game.  No doubt the Bills would have been in great position to take complete control of the game and likely win it if not for the bad calls, but had the correct call been made in the Saints-Rams game, the likelihood of the Saints winning and going to the Super Bowl was about 99%.

 

 

[TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th]

9 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

Robey committed the worse PI in all of history against the saints and didn’t get called 🤣🤣🤣

 

game is so fixed. It’s not even a debate anymore 

 

The NFL is SO FIXED. I've always known they "massage" the outcome if games but I never realized how bad it really was. 

 

I should have listened to my grandpa in the early 90s when he said this very same thing,  instead everyone looked at him like he was mentally unstable. 

 

At the very least no one will ever again mock you for claiming the NFL is fixed. 

[msw2112]

9 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

Robey committed the worse PI in all of history against the saints and didn’t get called 🤣🤣🤣

 

game is so fixed. It’s not even a debate anymore 

 

 

I posted the same thing, later in the thread.  Had not seen this post when I did, but I agree 100%.

[major]

34 minutes ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

The NFL is SO FIXED. I've always known they "massage" the outcome if games but I never realized how bad it really was. 

 

I should have listened to my grandpa in the early 90s when he said this very same thing,  instead everyone looked at him like he was mentally unstable. 

 

At the very least no one will ever again mock you for claiming the NFL is fixed. 

My dad used to always tell me something similar, but it was usually refs and taking money 😂

[Big Blitz]

 

[major]

Just now, major said:

My dad used to always tell me something similar, but it was usually refs and taking money 😂

Case in point, one of my neighbors had the same last name as another neighbor a few doors down. He was a high school ref and someone was always putting envelopes of cash in his mailbox before a game. The funny part is when they would sometimes put it in the wrong mailbox and the neighbors would walk it down to him 😂😂😂. And this was on a high school level 🤔

[major]

I don’t think games are scripted. I just lean on what Tim Donaghy, ref who fixed some games in nba, once said. His quote:

 

I'm not saying the games are fixed, because they are not. But they definitely program and train these referees to go out on the floor, and look for certain things, to put teams at advantages or disadvantages, based on who's up or down in the series.

[LABILLBACKER]

I think the most egregious one was SB 40.  Head ref Leavy would later in his life admit he missed 2 critical calls that went in Pittsburgh's favor.  Human beings are a flawed species.  We make mistakes,  lots of them. But we're also smart enough to develop technology that can minimize or even completely eliminate bad calls, spot, etc.  What happened to our Bills was preventable.  

 

I realize there's a strong sentiment that if we had just played better, the officiating would be rendered irrelevant.  And to some degree that's true.  But our playoff games with KC are always close. One bad call can dictate the outcome.  We've suffered thru nearly 20 years of Tom Brady/ NE getting most of the 50/50 calls. Now that a new league "golden child" has been selected,  we must endure this all over again.  There used to be a time when I naively thought the NFL cared about parity & fairness.  Never again will I believe that.

[Livinginthepast]

18 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

This video is pretty damning about those bad spots, 1 or 2 is bad enough but 5 incompetent spots?? And horribly incompetent at that. Why wasnt McD arguing each and every one of those? Even the first quarter ones? Like a baseball manager who berates the officials on a call to make sure he gets the next one or keeps them honest. McD should have been all over the officials because that level of incompetence or flat out bias is unacceptable.

[ToGoGo]

5 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

People don't want to see the Chrefs complete their 3-cheat. NFL thinks they do because Taytay. Interesting to see which way it goes in the ratings... I for one usually watch just to do the commercials slam but I don't think I can take it when the Shield drags Kermit and Mr Swift across the finish line for the umpteenth time. Why aggravate myself.

 

They know fans are fans and will tune in regardless. 

 

They want the Chiefs to win because the only place left to expand the NFL in the USA is with the female audience. That's what Taylor Swift brings. Female attention. They want merchandise sales, and for the next generation, they want female flag football leagues. 

 

However, I'm sensing that the Chiefs were a 10-7 team this year they had to "overrig" for, and the NFL might be a little surprised at the blowback from fans. They covered up Spygate and Deflategate very well, they figured the Chiefs would be a breeze. 

 

Remember, 10 years ago if you were to post on a forum about cheating, you would get hit with the tin foil hat memes and "flat-earth" accusations. You don't get that anymore. The worst you get is that you're a "crybaby" or that the "Bills have no excuses!" 

 

Overall, very good developments that fans are waking up. And makes you question how far back it goes. Should Allen have 3 Super Bowls already? Is Jim Kelly the greatest QB of all time with 4 straight SB wins? How much of our reality was rigged to manufacture fake champions? How much of Buffalo sports history is a lie?

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, major said:

Raiders have always seemed to get screwed over the history of the league. I’ve always wondered if if was due to Al Davis going to battle with the league multiple times

Yes, it was 100% Al Davis challenging the league. Maybe that's why Sean didn't lose his mind last sunday after watching his team get screwed all day. The power and influence of this multi Billion dollar entertainment industry is beyond challenging.  If you do, you're blackballed forever.

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Homerun ThrowForward.

 

[holla83]

5 hours ago, poblano said:

 

It is easier to blame or place the blame on someone else  than accept your own mistakes.  Kelly was calling plays in that SB and was forgetting the run game although NY played most of the game with only two DL.

 

 

We need to face games avoiding depending on things we cannot control, referees are one of those things, and try to plan and play better than  we have on the past

 

The fact that Thurman Thomas only had 15 carries in that game was criminal!

[Captain_Quint]

8 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

What about the saints getting screwed over on that PI call in the playoffs by former bill Nickell Robey

 

Beat me to it!

This one came to mind for me, too. Horrible no call!

[Repulsif]

1 hour ago, holla83 said:

The fact that Thurman Thomas only had 15 carries in that game was criminal!

Cook had 16 the other night 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

13 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

The "just give it to them" Bills @Pats in 1998.  WR was clearly out of bounds on 4th down that would've given us the game.  Then calling a pass interference on a Hail Mary which I haven't seen before or since.  Seemed kind of shady.  

 

Not only was the WR out of bounds, he was clearly a full yard short of the line to gain. 

 

That game made Ralph Wilson change his mind about instant replay/coaches challenges