Figster Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: No... But they have a full 2 minutes to slow down. Then there's the night vision. Was it a hindrance? Why were they going balls to the walls after they were granted visual separation. The practice mission was the safe housing of high ranking Officials. The airliner would become an obstacle they have to work around. The mission would also call for high speeds IMO. Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 4 Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, Figster said: The practice mission was the safe housing of high ranking Officials. The airliner would become an obstacle they have to work around. The mission would also call for high speeds IMO. Oh...Tay... And that's how accidents happen... Great way to learn... Whenever this report comes out, will be interesting. 1 Quote
Figster Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: Oh...Tay... And that's how accidents happen... Great way to learn... Whenever this report comes out, will be interesting. Very, cheers my friend 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) If the high ranking officials were that important... The whole area would be shut down to others. 😆 God Bless America... 😆Kid is toast! Edited February 4 by ExiledInIllinois Quote
Figster Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: If the high ranking officials were that important... The whole area would be shut down to others. 😆 God Bless America... 😆Kid is toast! Mission itself had zero to do with why this collision occurred. Telling an aircraft to go behind another aircraft that's still a half mile away flying right at each other at 150 mph lacks common sense IMO. Edited February 4 by Figster Quote
RkFast Posted February 4 Posted February 4 If you want proper information on this incident...or ANY incident involving aviation, Juan Brown is your man. 1 2 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 4 Posted February 4 5 hours ago, Figster said: Mission itself had zero to do with why this collision occurred. Telling an aircraft to go behind another aircraft that's still a half mile away flying right at each other at 150 mph lacks common sense IMO. You just said the mission did... They needed to be practicing full blast @ 150mph... Gotta know how to transport those oligarchs & dignitaries w/obfuscating night vision switched on! The plane is LANDING & you want another aircraft to go in front or off course. Maybe I don't get geometry here, but you must be a real hoot at train crossings!😆...😉 I don't see what you're trying to do here. The helo effed up the visual. There's another theory here, they were young hot shots AND they made a boo-boo, really bad boo-boo!😔😟 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 4 Posted February 4 5 hours ago, RkFast said: If you want proper information on this incident...or ANY incident involving aviation, Juan Brown is your man. Thnx... Yeah... That route change is above everyone's pay grade... Still doing it the bad way... Helo asked for visual, granted it, confirmed plane, and STILL SLAMMED INTO plane. They effed up. We can argue policy, SOPs, routes all day, still ain't gonna bring them back. Quote
Figster Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 36 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Thnx... Yeah... That route change is above everyone's pay grade... Still doing it the bad way... Helo asked for visual, granted it, confirmed plane, and STILL SLAMMED INTO plane. They effed up. We can argue policy, SOPs, routes all day, still ain't gonna bring them back. Did you even look at the great depth this guy went into explaining the blind spot on a BlackHawk? Or are you just that determined to blame the military/Blackhawk? Pat25 bank hard left!, I repeat Pat 25 bank hard left,! you are on a collision course. Do it now! I have never been in an air traffic control tower, zero experience in something of this nature. Even I could have prevented this collision Edited February 4 by Figster 1 Quote
sherpa Posted February 4 Posted February 4 6 hours ago, RkFast said: If you want proper information on this incident...or ANY incident involving aviation, Juan Brown is your man. He makes one mistake in this video. He goes off on a bit of a tangent discussing altimeter settings and whether or not the helo crew had the correct one. When you are flying low level, you don't use your pressure altimeter, you use your radar altimeter, as this route is based on. 2 Quote
Figster Posted February 4 Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, sherpa said: He makes one mistake in this video. He goes off on a bit of a tangent discussing altimeter settings and whether or not the helo crew had the correct one. When you are flying low level, you don't use your pressure altimeter, you use your radar altimeter, as this route is based on. Makes sense, Thanks for this Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Figster said: Did you even look at the great depth this guy went into explaining the blind spot on a BlackHawk? Or are you just that determined to blame the military/Blackhawk? Pat25 bank hard left!, I repeat Pat 25 bank hard left,! you are on a collision course. Do it now! I have never been in an air traffic control tower, zero experience in something of this nature. Even I could have prevented this collision 😆... This adds new meaning to: "Helicopter Parent" 😏 Quote
Figster Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) On 2/4/2025 at 4:46 PM, ExiledInIllinois said: 😆... This adds new meaning to: "Helicopter Parent" 😏 Call it Parental guidance ; ) https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/travel/air-traffic-controller-didnt-warn-about-all-dangers-ex-black-hawk-pilot-morning-in-america/vi-AA1ysw9E?ocid=xboxntp&pc=U531&cvid=9e9e345b9fd84cd2a2f9af1fb96f11a3&ei=82 Edited February 6 by Figster 1 Quote
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