Ghost_002! Posted Thursday at 09:01 PM Posted Thursday at 09:01 PM 7 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Because he’s a goof that cannot control himself. Everyone knows that. Many have made peace with it. Others will be hysterical for the next 3 years 50 weeks. Can you believe democrats sh*t the bed so badly that he’s been elected TWICE? I agree with your whole post. Don't forget "the house" wasn't it a clean sweep or almost one for the house?
daz28 Posted Thursday at 09:03 PM Posted Thursday at 09:03 PM 7 minutes ago, sherpa said: Got the job as payback from You could honestly insert any person with ANY political powers name here, and pulling that crap with the loyalist nominees trump has put up is LAUGHABLE.
sherpa Posted Thursday at 09:09 PM Posted Thursday at 09:09 PM 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: You could honestly insert any person with ANY political powers name here, and pulling that crap with the loyalist nominees trump has put up is LAUGHABLE. Have I ever claimed he was the only one? Ever? He is simply a useless pos that was inserted into a major Secretary job and failed miserably because he was worse than useless. That is my claim. Simple. He now seems to be defending his uselessness by trying to jumpstart a moribund career by using this tragedy. He disgusts me. 1
Andy1 Posted Thursday at 10:24 PM Posted Thursday at 10:24 PM 4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It's not political....well, it is, but it isn't...it's human nature. On the bright side, human nature can change. Btw--I grew up in a very nice, blue collar community that was union strong. The vast majority of my friends had parents that were union members (one of both), as were mine. These were everyday Americans trying to figure out how to get through life, and I feel blessed to have had the experiences with them and for the lessons taught. However, by the standards of today, some might be perceived as closed-minded and provincial. The point I'm always mindful of is that then wasn't now, and some of the fiercest critics today would likely have been the most closed-minded and provincial then. Reminds me of Grampa Simpson talking to Homer: “When I was your age, I was with it. Then somebody changed IT and now IT isn’t what I’m with.”
daz28 Posted Thursday at 10:26 PM Posted Thursday at 10:26 PM Hegseth said the Black Hawk chopper had "a fairly experienced crew that was doing a required annual night evaluation." I would like to know more about what, "required annual night evaluation" is.
sherpa Posted Thursday at 10:31 PM Posted Thursday at 10:31 PM 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: Hegseth said the Black Hawk chopper had "a fairly experienced crew that was doing a required annual night evaluation." I would like to know more about what, "required annual night evaluation" is. The military, and all aviation for that matter, has currency requirements. As a carrier aviator, I had to have a certain number of carrier landings, both day and night, in a certain period. The night vision thing is clearly similar. 1
daz28 Posted Thursday at 11:00 PM Posted Thursday at 11:00 PM 27 minutes ago, sherpa said: The military, and all aviation for that matter, has currency requirements. As a carrier aviator, I had to have a certain number of carrier landings, both day and night, in a certain period. The night vision thing is clearly similar. So they're likely doing many night flights all the time, but kind of need to be 'certified' annually? Is that what you're saying?
sherpa Posted Thursday at 11:09 PM Posted Thursday at 11:09 PM 1 minute ago, daz28 said: So they're likely doing many night flights all the time, but kind of need to be 'certified' annually? Is that what you're saying? What you have done is posted an opinion as fact. Currency requirements apply to individuals. I have no idea who was involved, but if an individual needed to satisfy a currency requirement, they would generate a sortie to accomplish that. Total "all up rounds" are a required, reported performance stat in the military, including aircraft and personnel. If you had an airwing on a carrier, and only 20% were qualified at night, you'd have a serious problem. I have no idea about helo flying with night vision goggles, but I assume it is similar. I just wonder how those two aircraft tried to occupy the same airspace at the same time, being under full ATC control and known flight paths.
daz28 Posted Thursday at 11:15 PM Posted Thursday at 11:15 PM 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: What you have done is posted an opinion as fact. HUH? I asked a question. It appears you don't have the answer to what a "required annual night evaluation"(for a Blackhawk pilot) is. I'll wait for the explanation, thanks. From what I've heard a transponder should have went off, but like police cams, they have an inexplicable ability to disarm. 1
sherpa Posted Thursday at 11:44 PM Posted Thursday at 11:44 PM 21 minutes ago, daz28 said: HUH? I asked a question. It appears you don't have the answer to what a "required annual night evaluation"(for a Blackhawk pilot) is. I'll wait for the explanation, thanks. From what I've heard a transponder should have went off, but like police cams, they have an inexplicable ability to disarm. What you stated was that "they were doing many night flights all the time..." These are individual quals, so there is no info on whether or not this particular person needed an qual. The rest of your post indicates a lack of knowledge. No harm there, but I'm not going to spend more time on transponders or TCAS, when they are turned on and off and the algorithms involved. Not hard to do, but not worth my time as it will all come out eventually.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted yesterday at 12:15 AM Posted yesterday at 12:15 AM 1 hour ago, Andy1 said: Reminds me of Grampa Simpson talking to Homer: “When I was your age, I was with it. Then somebody changed IT and now IT isn’t what I’m with.” I'd tell you I'm angered by the reference, but obviously as an aging boomer I was angry before you wrote it. 1
daz28 Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM (edited) 38 minutes ago, sherpa said: What you stated was that "they were doing many night flights all the time..." These are individual quals, so there is no info on whether or not this particular person needed an qual. The rest of your post indicates a lack of knowledge. No harm there, but I'm not going to spend more time on transponders or TCAS, when they are turned on and off and the algorithms involved. Not hard to do, but not worth my time as it will all come out eventually. I was asking a question, and trying to clarify what you were saying, because yes I do lack any knowledge on what that may mean. To the average Joe, it seems that helo was not in the right place at all. If they really run helo's through that flight path like that all the time, then this was inevitable. I did look up currency requirements, but not sure how that applies if this wasn't a training flight. Edited yesterday at 12:22 AM by daz28
sherpa Posted yesterday at 12:37 AM Posted yesterday at 12:37 AM 6 minutes ago, daz28 said: I was asking a question, and trying to clarify what you were saying, because yes I do lack any knowledge on what that may mean. To the average Joe, it seems that helo was not in the right place at all. If they really run helo's through that flight path like that all the time, then this was inevitable. I did look up currency requirements, but not sure how that applies if this wasn't a training flight. I get it and apologize for being unclear. You opined that they were "doing night flights all the time," and questioned that if so, why they might need this currency requirement. I stated that those requirements are per individual. A squadron may do things all the time, but there may be a need to get a person a certain sortie to satisfy their individual requirement. Happens all the time. The issue, in my view, will come down to this, and I have no doubt that I will regret this. The transportation of political figures via helicopter in this congested airspace is idiotic, unnecessary and ridiculously expensive. That may well be what this is ultimately about, as there is no military defense benefit to operating a helicopter unit in that area. It is pointless and intrusive, and the capability isn't worth it. 1
daz28 Posted yesterday at 12:54 AM Posted yesterday at 12:54 AM 12 minutes ago, sherpa said: I get it and apologize for being unclear. You opined that they were "doing night flights all the time," and questioned that if so, why they might need this currency requirement. I stated that those requirements are per individual. A squadron may do things all the time, but there may be a need to get a person a certain sortie to satisfy their individual requirement. Happens all the time. The issue, in my view, will come down to this, and I have no doubt that I will regret this. The transportation of political figures via helicopter in this congested airspace is idiotic, unnecessary and ridiculously expensive. That may well be what this is ultimately about, as there is no military defense benefit to operating a helicopter unit in that area. It is pointless and intrusive, and the capability isn't worth it. IIRC they said 1 pilot had like 1000 hours, and the other like 500. Seems like a ton to me, so an "annual required evaluation" in the flight path of an airport, doesn't seem all that necessary.
sherpa Posted yesterday at 01:06 AM Posted yesterday at 01:06 AM 8 minutes ago, daz28 said: IIRC they said 1 pilot had like 1000 hours, and the other like 500. Seems like a ton to me, so an "annual required evaluation" in the flight path of an airport, doesn't seem all that necessary. There are specific mission requirements that involve currency, not total hours. As I pointed out, you could have hundreds of carrier landings in your logbook, but if you haven't done so, and day is different than night, in a certain time, you are not qualified.
daz28 Posted yesterday at 01:21 AM Posted yesterday at 01:21 AM 12 minutes ago, sherpa said: There are specific mission requirements that involve currency, not total hours. As I pointed out, you could have hundreds of carrier landings in your logbook, but if you haven't done so, and day is different than night, in a certain time, you are not qualified. Now I'm seeing it was a training/practice flight. Interestingly, a "continuity of government" mission. Strangely enough, trump did not know what this meant. For those that don't know, it's a protocol for nuclear disaster.
sherpa Posted yesterday at 01:27 AM Posted yesterday at 01:27 AM 29 minutes ago, daz28 said: IIRC they said 1 pilot had like 1000 hours, and the other like 500. Seems like a ton to me, so an "annual required evaluation" in the flight path of an airport, doesn't seem all that necessary. There are specific mission requirements that involve currency, not total hours. As I pointed out, you could have hundreds of carrier landings in your logbook, but if you haven't done so, and day is different than night, in a certain time, you are not qualified. Still, the point is that no matter what each flight was doing, they should have been separated, as there is no surprise in this. 1
JDHillFan Posted yesterday at 02:04 AM Posted yesterday at 02:04 AM 38 minutes ago, daz28 said: Now I'm seeing it was a training/practice flight. Interestingly, a "continuity of government" mission. Strangely enough, trump did not know what this meant. For those that don't know, it's a protocol for nuclear disaster. You seem to be speaking with authority with the “for those that don’t know” bit. For those inclined to be overly dramatic let’s not overstate the situation re: nuclear disaster: According to the White House website, continuity of government refers to the plan in place to keep the government up and running in case of a major catastrophe or attack on Washington, D.C. As a part of the national continuity plan, every federal government agency is required to have a strategy for a mass evacuation and relocation from the national capital region.
daz28 Posted yesterday at 02:49 AM Posted yesterday at 02:49 AM 44 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: You seem to be speaking with authority with the “for those that don’t know” bit. For those inclined to be overly dramatic let’s not overstate the situation re: nuclear disaster: According to the White House website, continuity of government refers to the plan in place to keep the government up and running in case of a major catastrophe or attack on Washington, D.C. As a part of the national continuity plan, every federal government agency is required to have a strategy for a mass evacuation and relocation from the national capital region. Well, the bunker is built for nuclear attack, but it's not a requirement for its use.
JDHillFan Posted yesterday at 02:54 AM Posted yesterday at 02:54 AM 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: Well, the bunker is built for nuclear attack, but it's not a requirement for its use. I don’t recall you making mention of a bunker. Apologies if I missed that (I didn’t) Your statement was “For those that don't know, it's a protocol for nuclear disaster”. That is incorrect.
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