Do Bills players think they can beat the Chiefs?

[billsfan89]

You don't make it into the NFL unless you think you can win every game. 

[Brand J]

1 hour ago, colin said:

Groot and Torrence played poorly on this game (Torrence was straight cheeks) but they both had comments about KC just dialed up the right blitz/changed where pressure was coming from or that KC ran plays they never saw.

 

That tells me they think their coaches don't know what they are doing.

 

Given how utter trash our d has been every playoff exit, and that our HC is a d minded coach, and that our OC has no success of any kind before Allen had the fewest toxic plays per snap of any QB ever, I can't blame them

Watch Groot on the 4th and 1 Mahomes keeper. It wasn’t pretty. Man oh man, if I was Bernard in the huddle I would’ve told my ends to keep their eyes on Mahomes and don’t fall for any pump fakes. In the SB, he kept the ball against the 9ers on a boot in a similar situation. I was sitting at home and figured exactly what was coming, the players seemed to have no idea. I was a little more forgiving for Smoot losing contain on the Mahomes TD run. The 4th and 1 should’ve been an easy out.

[FireChans]

15 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Your welcome?

 

Your supposition that I called out was trash and you made no attempt to back it up - other than "How should I know?".

 

Good for you.

 

 

It’s a message board opinion homie. It’s not that serious, I promise

[SinceThe70s]

 

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

It’s a message board opinion homie. It’s not that serious, I promise

 

Not that serious? Then why not just capitulate and admit that "Do these guys think they can win when they step on the field?"  was indefensible when I called it out - or defend it if It's defensible? 

 

For the record, IMO where you started with the Dawkins/Jones glad-handing before the game was decided was a reasonable topic. 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

 

Not that serious? Then why not just capitulate and admit that "Do these guys think they can win when they step on the field?"  was indefensible when I called it out - or defend it if It's defensible? 

 

For the record, IMO where you started with the Dawkins/Jones glad-handing before the game was decided was a reasonable topic. 

Questions are indefensible?

 

Brother, you could have said, “yeah I do” and made yourself look far less silly lmao. 

Edited 18 hours ago by FireChans

[SinceThe70s]

18 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Questions are indefensible?

 

Brother, you could have said, “yeah I do” and made yourself look far less silly lmao. 

 

To be clear is your answer to "Do these guys think they can win when they step on the field?" no?

[FireChans]

8 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

To be clear is your answer to "Do these guys think they can win when they step on the field?" no?

 

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Most of them tbh.

 

They probably feel that way because they always lose.

 

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, ShakAttack said:

Because every time we play the chiefs it seems like we have 1 moment at the end of the game just like this.  Something that could have so easily gone our way instead.  

 

True.

 

But it's not just us.  Happened to a lot of teams this year like the kicker that kicked a low knuckle ball for the go ahead FG and it was blocked.  I think its a sports psychology thing.  Teams start well and maybe even get ahead and then nut up at the end and lose.  

 

I grew up in Dallas as a Cowboy fan until JJ came along.  My Dad got me a job selling programs and went to and watched every game. Teams would come in and play tough until the 4th quarter when Roger and the guys would score late and win.  I'm sure the 90s Bills won games like this too.

 

We're nutting up late against the Chiefs from Coach McDermott on down to the water boy.  I think we should hire a sports psychologist to work with Coach McDermott and the guys if we don't have one already.

Edited 18 hours ago by reddogblitz

[4th&long]

I think it's obvious by now that can't. If the bills just run it back they will lose again next year. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

7 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

True.

 

But it's not just us.  Happened to a lot of teams this year like the kicker that kicked a low knuckle ball for the go ahead FG and it was blocked.  I think its a sports psychology thing.  Teams start well and maybe even get ahead and then nut up at the end and lose.  

 

I grew up in Dallas as a Cowboy fan until JJ came along.  My Dad got me a job selling programs and went to and watched every game. Teams would come in and play tough until the 4th quarter when Roger and the guys would score late and win.  I'm sure the 90s Bills won games like this too.

 

We're nutting up late against the Chiefs from Coach McDermott on down to the water boy.  I think we should hire a sports psychologist to work with Coach McDermott and the guys if we don't have one already.

Curiously, after the 2010 season. Andy Reid fired Sean McDermott from his Eagles staff. Did he perceive some fundamental flaw in Sean's philosophy or actions that he concluded could not be fixed? Or maybe he was just dissatisfied with his DC's performance. It would be nice to know his reasoning at the time. Is this "flaw" the thing Reid and the Chiefs have been exploiting to beat the Bills in the playoffs?

 

https://www.espn.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/24349/report-andy-reid-fires-sean-mcdermott#:~:text=Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid told reporters Monday,coordinator Sean McDermott%2C according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by All_Pro_Bills

[Slack_in_MA]

If the players didn’t believe they can beat them, I don’t think the score would have been nearly as close as it was. Plus, I read somewhere that they actually beat them earlier in the season. 
 

Next question.

[MrEpsYtown]

25 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Curiously, after the 2010 season. Andy Reid fired Sean McDermott from his Eagles staff. Did he perceive some fundamental flaw in Sean's philosophy or actions that he concluded could not be fixed? Or maybe he was just dissatisfied with his DC's performance. It would be nice to know his reasoning at the time. Is this "flaw" the thing Reid and the Chiefs have been exploiting to beat the Bills in the playoffs?

 

https://www.espn.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/24349/report-andy-reid-fires-sean-mcdermott#:~:text=Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid told reporters Monday,coordinator Sean McDermott%2C according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

 

 

 

I think he was a scapegoat. But spending that year under Dick Jauron senior advisor seemed to make McDermott forget everything Jim Johnson taught him. Somehow, Steve Spangnoulo remembers. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

19 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I think he was a scapegoat. But spending that year under Dick Jauron senior advisor seemed to make McDermott forget everything Jim Johnson taught him. Somehow, Steve Spangnoulo remembers. 

You might be right. In the playoffs that year, offensive genius Andy Reid's Eagles team led by Michael Vick was able to score only 16 points in a 21-16 wild card round loss at home to the Packers.

I cringe when I hear broadcast announcers proclaim Andy is Sean's "mentor". Not sure how anybody would personally consider somebody that fired them to deflect blame for losing from them to you is a mentor. That said, I still think Reid messes with Sean's mind in these games and that provides the .01% edge they need to win.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

They beat them every year, those games count too. 

Dion's behavior was odd. He ain't your buddy again until the clock strikes zero.

 

[T master]

They know they can and are the only team that has beaten them with any regularity from year to year and if they only had to beat the team they are playing they would have won or had a much better chance at being in the SB but unfortunately as they say it only takes 1 or 2 plays per game to determine a winner .

 

There were those 1 or 2 plays that even though the mistakes by the Bills helped to change the out come of this game that the Bills will never be able to over come until the playing field is leveled and every call is made correctly .

[BuffaloMatt]

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[Fleezoid]

5 hours ago, 4th&long said:

I think it's obvious by now that can't. If the bills just run it back they will lose again next year. 

 

It's a PTSD sort of thing. When they get the Chiefs in the playoffs, it's deer-in-the-headlights time.