It Goes Back to 13 Seconds, Doesn't It?

[TheBrownBear]

On 1/29/2025 at 7:28 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

We would have gotten lit up by the bengals. The good passing accurate QBs have zero issues against our horseshit scheme. Just think of how effortlessly Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford, Hurts, Brady, Goff, etc have moved the ball on us. Even Cousins in that Vikings game. It’s like child’s play. It’s the simplest zone with nothing but space and time. All you have to do is stay calm and you have people wide open. It’s plain as day to me and been for years. How everyone can’t see it is mind blowing. How our own coach doesn’t see it is amazing. You know he has nothing to do with the offense. He has nothing but time to tinker with this defense. And he’s terrible. Wtf are we afraid of? What are we clinging to here?

I tend to agree.  We were an absolute sieve against the Chiefs.  The Bengals would have hung 30+ on us in our stadium the following week.

 

No matter how invincible you may seem one week (see Bills 51 - Raiders 3), a good coach will find a way to exploit your weaknesses before it's all said and done.  Even if we had gotten past the Bengals, I don't doubt for a second that McVay would have exposed us with two weeks of planning.

 

Just want to add that this year was the sort of the breaking point for me where going forward I will view the regular season as absolutely meaningless.  We can rack up 17 regular season wins next year and I won't give a damn until we get past the Chiefs and into the Super Bowl.  Sad to say, but that is where we are now.  

Edited Monday at 09:46 PM by TheBrownBear

[DuckyBoys]

hypothetical we end end up in same place next year again bowing out to the Chiefs Is McDermott's job safe just because nobody can guarantee next guy will be better?  Are we just happy to be a perennial playoff team and that's good enough?

[Solomon Grundy]

On 1/29/2025 at 10:28 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

We would have gotten lit up by the bengals. The good passing accurate QBs have zero issues against our horseshit scheme. Just think of how effortlessly Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford, Hurts, Brady, Goff, etc have moved the ball on us. Even Cousins in that Vikings game. It’s like child’s play. It’s the simplest zone with nothing but space and time. All you have to do is stay calm and you have people wide open. It’s plain as day to me and been for years. How everyone can’t see it is mind blowing. How our own coach doesn’t see it is amazing. You know he has nothing to do with the offense. He has nothing but time to tinker with this defense. And he’s terrible. Wtf are we afraid of? What are we clinging to here?

Mahomes had the worst offensive line in his career, yet you play your DBs 10 yards off the receiver and let him play pitch and catch. How did you expect your DL to get to the QB?

On 1/30/2025 at 6:41 AM, Pete said:

Thurman was unstoppable in that SuperBowl, but Kelly wanted to be the star. Feed Thurman more, we win that Superbowl.  Ive held that against Jim

And Cook wasn't against the Chiefs?

[Solomon Grundy]

On 1/30/2025 at 8:54 AM, JohnNord said:

LOL first off Brady is not a rookie OC.  He had over year of experience in Carolina.

 

Second who did you want him to hire?  A retread like Todd Downing or Alex Van Pelt? 

I believe he was referring to Ken Dorsey, not Joe Brady 

[Nihilarian]

Wide right...13 seconds...this team is sorta cursed and continues to be cursed.

 

Bills OC Ted Marchibroda taught Jim Kelly to call his own plays and in that first Superbowl, he did just that and neglected what got them there in RB Thurman Thomas. Back then the Bills ran the ball more than they threw it despite the "hurry-up offense" or the "K gun". It was mostly the Thurman show.

 

Against the Redskins Kelly was concussed and kept playing. The Bills O line that year was so banged up in playing Denver they had TE Pete Metzalaars playing tackle during that game. As good as the offense was that season the defense was just plain bad. Buffalo was always so injured at the end of each year and for one year the NFL cut the normal two-week rest down to one week. Dallas was just a wreaking machine at that point in time.

 

You guys can continue to cry about the 13 seconds and the guy responsible is long gone in old-timer Leslie Frazier... him and his prevent defense. Since then Buffalo has had to overcome some great injuries to the defensive side and still managed to get into the playoffs. One year a guy had an actual heart attack on the field and nearly died. That showed the players there is more to life than the NFL.

 

It's NOT the coaching or the GM or the Xs and O's as it's the Jimmy's and Joe's. Look back at this season where we all watched the defense not being able to get pressure on the opposing QBs. The Buffalo defense stopped the run against the Ravens and had the ball bounce their way a few times to win that game. It didn't bounce their way enough in the Chief's game and allowed Mahomes to have one of his best games all season. 

 

This was supposed to be a rebuilding year as the Dolphins, Jets were going to be better and win the division. They weren't and didn't...the Buffalo Bills kicked ass so bad in 2024 that they had the division wrapped up by week 12 or so. They beat the two best teams in the NFL this year in the Detroit Lions AT Detroit and the KC Chiefs in Buffalo. 

 

Are we all forgetting that Buffalo took a 30 million dollar cap hit to get rid of Stephon Diggs, that we lost Jordan Poyer and Michah Hyde, and that a rookie safety was needed to start against KC? That was a very close game against the Chiefs, and one more ball bouncing Buffalo's way, and it's a win. Didn't Buffalo have four fumbles in that game and not lose one of them?

 

Von Miller was the right idea only injuries derailed it. Poyer and Hyde were a great safety tandem and their time was sadly up.

 

Buffalo is so very, very close to being a World Champion. Have some faith in Beane the Wizard and let him improve the Bills' pass rush and secondary.

[Nihilarian]

 

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:

hypothetical we end end up in same place next year again bowing out to the Chiefs Is McDermott's job safe just because nobody can guarantee next guy will be better?  Are we just happy to be a perennial playoff team and that's good enough?

There are already tons of Bills fans who have both accepted and embraced this truth.

[Real McClappy]

On 1/29/2025 at 8:25 PM, Bills!Win! said:

I think that our last game at highmark stadium will be a home afc championship game to keep the chiefs from going to their 4th straight Super Bowl. 
 

That’ll be one for the ages 

Hope you are right and the fans rip down the goal posts to go with it. 

 

1:20ish

 

[GoBills808]

18 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

I tend to agree.  We were an absolute sieve against the Chiefs.  The Bengals would have hung 30+ on us in our stadium the following week.

 

No matter how invincible you may seem one week (see Bills 51 - Raiders 3), a good coach will find a way to exploit your weaknesses before it's all said and done.  Even if we had gotten past the Bengals, I don't doubt for a second that McVay would have exposed us with two weeks of planning.

 

Just want to add that this year was the sort of the breaking point for me where going forward I will view the regular season as absolutely meaningless.  We can rack up 17 regular season wins next year and I won't give a damn until we get past the Chiefs and into the Super Bowl.  Sad to say, but that is where we are now.  

It wouldn't have mattered. We were averaging 40+

 

That was the year to win the Super Bowl. Sometimes teams don't recover from that kind of trauma. Look at the Seahawks

[Gregg]

14 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:

hypothetical we end end up in same place next year again bowing out to the Chiefs Is McDermott's job safe just because nobody can guarantee next guy will be better?  Are we just happy to be a perennial playoff team and that's good enough?

 

I think McDermott and Beane are safe simply because Terry likes having both of them as his HC/GM. Also, the Bills are a winning, competitive organization despite not winning a Super Bowl. I would personally like to see the Bills move on from McDermott as these playoff failures are getting old. But my opinion is meaningless. 

[Buffalo Boy]

20 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

 

Just want to add that this year was the sort of the breaking point for me where going forward I will view the regular season as absolutely meaningless.  We can rack up 17 regular season wins next year and I won't give a damn until we get past the Chiefs and into the Super Bowl.  Sad to say, but that is where we are now.  

Edited 20 hours ago by TheBrownBear

I got here a year ahead of you.

It makes for very calm game days as there is no pressure.

   I also watched this last game and could tell we would lose by halftime. Sad, but 🤷‍♂️

[Success]

20 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

I tend to agree.  We were an absolute sieve against the Chiefs.  The Bengals would have hung 30+ on us in our stadium the following week.

 

No matter how invincible you may seem one week (see Bills 51 - Raiders 3), a good coach will find a way to exploit your weaknesses before it's all said and done.  Even if we had gotten past the Bengals, I don't doubt for a second that McVay would have exposed us with two weeks of planning.

 

Just want to add that this year was the sort of the breaking point for me where going forward I will view the regular season as absolutely meaningless.  We can rack up 17 regular season wins next year and I won't give a damn until we get past the Chiefs and into the Super Bowl.  Sad to say, but that is where we are now.  

 

I was a little there this season - though I definitely enjoyed some of the wins, like KC (Josh's run was amazing), and the Lions.

 

Now?  The regular season is a total formality. Round 1 of the playoffs is a formality, unless it's somehow KC.  

 

The level of futility the Bills have had over the years is almost comical.  It was 4 losses in a row in the '90s, and now 4x that we can't get by the same team.  It's hard to believe I'm not permanently in the fetal position on the floor, just whimpering my life away.

 

[finn]

It really may be time to move on from McDermott. He's had so many chances, especially in the 13-second game. My nightmare is that Beane will stick with McDermott for all of Allen's prime before even he agrees the man is not the answer or he himself is fired. And when will Allen realize he can't win in Buffalo with this coach and say it's him or me? 

 

We have the wrong head coach.