Kelly to Allen Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: if we don’t bring in anyone before the draft, there’s really no excuse for not taking 2 DL in the first 3 picks. Preferably both DT depending on who is available. This regime has been repeatedly saying that they want a very strong and deep defensive front and that that's where they center most of their philosophy in roster construction.... well guess what here's your chance because this is probably the deepest defensive line class in maybe 10 years ! draft 4 to 5 of them... If they don't then I'm going to be seriously pissed off on draft weekend Edited March 15 by Kelly to Allen 1 3 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea I am not advocating waiting. I am just saying the Bills are not in a great spot in terms of value of talent at corner likely to be available at the spot. A trade down from #30 or a trade up in the second are my preferred options. But I wouldn't pass on a stud DL if one is there at #30 just to get a corner because of need. If they take another position (say DT, DE or WR), what ammo do they really have to move up in the 2nd? Packaging the earlier of their 2 2nds with the earlier of their 2 4ths only moves them up 7-8 spots in the 2nd. If they do that it will be 70 picks between their othe 2nd and their next pick. I’m not crazy about waiting 2+ rounds in a still decent part of the draft. I think they are kinda stuck with the dearth of talent they currently have on their roster at CB. It looks to me like they are going to have to reach for a CB at 30 or trade back from 30 and still take a CB, unless they are happy really getting only 3 players in the top 130. Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 15 Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I know there are a gazillion mock drafts in the media these days so probably everything conceivable will appear on at least one of them … Ive seen a few out there having the Bills picking a LB in the first … like this one … https://www.draftcountdown.com/2025-nfl-draft/2025-nfl-mock-draft-buffalo-bills-all-7-rounds/ Now .. I often say I can’t see the future… but I will be gobsmacked if they take a LB in the first to play behind Bernard, Milano and even Williams when there are a number of other issues on the team … anyone feel differently? Also … what’s the thoughts on Royals in the second ? A guy that is on my limited radar at the moment … does he last until the end of the second? As to Royals. Short arms, small hands, not much bigger than Shakir. Rather take a swing at someone like Savion Williams.😉 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 15 Posted March 15 15 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: As to Royals. Short arms, small hands, not much bigger than Shakir. Rather take a swing at someone like Savion Williams.😉 Williams is another big slot. He doesn't separate outside. Would be like drafting Keon Coleman all over again. Royals is a better outside receiver. 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: If they take another position (say DT, DE or WR), what ammo do they really have to move up in the 2nd? Packaging the earlier of their 2 2nds with the earlier of their 2 4ths only moves them up 7-8 spots in the 2nd. If they do that it will be 70 picks between their othe 2nd and their next pick. I’m not crazy about waiting 2+ rounds in a still decent part of the draft. I think they are kinda stuck with the dearth of talent they currently have on their roster at CB. It looks to me like they are going to have to reach for a CB at 30 or trade back from 30 and still take a CB, unless they are happy really getting only 3 players in the top 130. You have to keep in mind that we have 10 Draft Picks and only about 7 roster spots right now. And that's not counting Hoecht and Ogunjobi. So probably 5 after week 7. And that's if we don't sign any rosterable players between now and the Draft. And some of those spots are depth where Day 3 selections are fine. We can easily go a couple rounds between picks. And with a few of the major holes we have, we really need to hit on the best talent we can get (like CB and 1T). Trading up (maybe even more than once) is borderline necessary. Even if that means we don't pick for a couple rounds. 1 Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 15 Posted March 15 41 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Williams is another big slot. He doesn't separate outside. Would be like drafting Keon Coleman all over again. Royals is a better outside receiver. 2/3rds of his snaps last year were wide. So.less than a 3rd of his snaps were in the slot. He has the speed and size to play wide. Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: 2/3rds of his snaps last year were wide. So.less than a 3rd of his snaps were in the slot. He has the speed and size to play wide. He is another non-separator on the boundary. His best asset, exactly the same as Keon's last year, is his agility and power as a runner in the open field with the ball in hand. But you have got to get him free releases and manufacture him some touches (both much easier to do in the slot). If you are asking him to win downfield on the boundary with any regularity in the NFL it is going to be a tough ask. Edited March 15 by GunnerBill 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted March 16 Posted March 16 30: R1 P30 EDGE Mike Green - Marshall 56: R2 P24 CB Azareye'h Thomas - Florida State 62: R2 P30 S Xavier Watts - Notre Dame 109: R4 P7 DL C.J. West - Indiana 132: R4 P30 RB R.J. Harvey - UCF 169: R5 P31 CB Mello Dotson - Kansas 173: R5 P35 WR Kobe Hudson - UCF 177: R6 P1 EDGE Fadil Diggs - Syracuse 204: R6 P28 CB Zah Frazier - UTSA 206: R6 P30 DL Zeek Biggers - Georgia Tech Did another one... 4 dlineman, 4 dbs Quote
nosejob Posted March 16 Posted March 16 This is just off my own 1st 5 picks wishlist... Kenneth Grant Princely U Alfred Collins Darien Porter Jared Ivey Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 16 Posted March 16 18 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said: This regime has been repeatedly saying that they want a very strong and deep defensive front and that that's where they center most of their philosophy in roster construction.... well guess what here's your chance because this is probably the deepest defensive line class in maybe 10 years ! draft 4 to 5 of them... If they don't then I'm going to be seriously pissed off on draft weekend That's what I'm screamin too. Grab another free agent CB, spend one of your 4th rounders on another cute little CB, but load up on MFers who will own that line of scrimmage on defense. That's the value this year and it's also what we need. 1 1 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 16 Posted March 16 17 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: You have to keep in mind that we have 10 Draft Picks and only about 7 roster spots right now. And that's not counting Hoecht and Ogunjobi. So probably 5 after week 7. And that's if we don't sign any rosterable players between now and the Draft. And some of those spots are depth where Day 3 selections are fine. We can easily go a couple rounds between picks. And with a few of the major holes we have, we really need to hit on the best talent we can get (like CB and 1T). Trading up (maybe even more than once) is borderline necessary. Even if that means we don't pick for a couple rounds. Well said. This may have to be a "quality over quantity" type draft. I'm cool with burning one the 4ths, a couple late rounders, and even a mid rounder or two next year to move up on "both" second rounders to ensure we get guys we really like instead of "oh well, he was the last player we had a second round grade on" picks. I don't wanna hear that s**t this year. 1 Quote
Special K Posted March 16 Posted March 16 (edited) 30. Kenneth Grant DT Michigan 56. Maxwell Hairston CB Kentucky 62. Andrew Mukuba S Texas I think the Bills will have to move up a little from 56 to get the CB they want, but they have the ammunition to do it. Edited March 16 by Special K Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 16 Posted March 16 (edited) I made two trades down and then one trade up. I went from 30 to 32 then to 34, picking picks 96 & 99. I used lower picks to try to balance the trades and limit the number of picks I made to 7. I then traded 56 and 99 to move up to 41. Pick 34 - Derrick Harmon DT Pick 41 - Maxwell Hairston CB Pick 62 - JT Tuimoloau Edge Pick 96 - Isaiah Bond WR Pick 161 - Cobee Bryant CB Pick 169 - Sebastian Castro S Pick 177 - Jamon Dumas-Johnson LB Added talent on all levels of the defense including a CB with great speed who could push to start. Bond fell to 96 (which is unlikely to happen in a real draft but...) and had to be chosen. Edited March 16 by GASabresIUFan 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted March 16 Posted March 16 On 3/15/2025 at 3:39 PM, Kelly to Allen said: This regime has been repeatedly saying that they want a very strong and deep defensive front and that that's where they center most of their philosophy in roster construction.... well guess what here's your chance because this is probably the deepest defensive line class in maybe 10 years ! draft 4 to 5 of them... If they don't then I'm going to be seriously pissed off on draft weekend Its a matter of whom they choose as DTs that will measure if i get po'd They really need to get the hang of this by nailing down what they want to be up front. Cuz it aint workin' just yet McBeanes. I know what I want from them LOL Quote
Rockinon Posted March 16 Posted March 16 They gotta be thinking about going DT with that 1st pick. Quote
Bigvinny Posted March 16 Posted March 16 PFN no trades. 30. Kenneth Grant DT Michigan 56. Trey Amos CB Ole Miss 62. Isaiah Bond WR Texas 109. David Walker EDGE Central Arkansas 132. Jaylen Reed S Penn State 169. Jack Kiser LB Notre Dame 170. Elijah Roberts DT SMU 173. Miles Frazier OG LSU 177. Tyler Shough QB Louisville 206. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn 2 Quote
3rdand12 Posted March 16 Posted March 16 14 minutes ago, Rockinon said: They gotta be thinking about going DT with that 1st pick. Don't mind if they move around up or down to get the DT I want lol But GA has a nice mock to do just that ^^ Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 16 Posted March 16 2 hours ago, 34-78-83 said: Lots of trading around (we aren't using 10 picks) - 5-7 spots open. We used 10 last year. Wouldn't surprise me to do it again this year.🤔 Quote
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