That's No Moon Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/19/2025 at 1:20 AM, Richard Noggin said: All 7 picks make the 53-man roster (assuming health and lack of outright busts). Choices at 56 weren't offering compelling value so I moved back a little and compressed my pick selections from 10 to 7. Move them all the way out of the picks McDermott and Beane make and let the scouts make more. 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 6 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: This is a mock plus more of an overall potential offseason outlook from Joe Buscaglia at the athletic. Here is the link. Bills mock offseason: Free agents, draft plans, and trade markets https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6149415/2025/02/21/bills-2025-mock-offseason-free-agent/ I don't want to give the whole thing away but he has a great plan for the offseason. I will just highlight the big things. I will say I wouldn't even pick up the phone and call hollywood brown let alone 2 years for 18 million. Bills cap space to begin the exercise: -$10.13 million The NFL informed teams that the 2025 salary cap would fall between $277.5 and $281.5 million, so for this exercise, we split the difference and put it at $279.5 million. The -$10.13 million hole is far smaller than what the Bills had to deal with last offseason before cutting all their big-name veterans to clear cap space. on von miller - resigned In this case, I had Miller taking a $10 million pay cut — meaning $10 million in cap savings. It would guarantee him over $7 million this season Restructures to Josh Allen, Dion Dawkins and Ed Oliver Release Sam Martin and trade Elam. he has the team resigning Douglas, Hollins, Ty Johnson, Reggie Gilliam, Ferguson and Quinton Morris Trade for Myles Garrett trade details Buffalo receives: DE Myles Garrett, 2026 5th round, 2027 7th round Cleveland receives: No. 30, 2026 1st round, 2027 4th round, DE A.J. Epenesa Free agent signings Hollywood Brown, Derek Barnett Then this is his mock for the rest of the draft. The pick at No. 56: CB Darien Porter, Iowa State The pick at No. 62: DT Jordan Phillips, Maryland The pick at No. 107: LB Chris Paul Jr., Ole Miss The pick at No. 130: EDGE Oluwafemi Oladejo, UCLA Trade! Bills receive Nos. 132 and 245 from Lions for Nos. 170 and 176. The pick at No. 132: S Billy Bowman Jr., Oklahoma The pick at No. 173: G Connor Colby, Iowa The pick at No. 203: WR Ricky White III, UNLV The pick at No. 205: QB Kurtis Rourke, Indiana The pick at No. 245: P Jeremy Crawshaw, Florida New Bills depth chart Joe was on with Matt bove today talking about his offseason article. 1 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted February 22 Posted February 22 12 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Joe was on with Matt bove today talking about his offseason article. This Garrett trade breakdown seems favorable for the Bills compared to some earlier guesses/projections. Two late firsts is the cost here, essentially. Plus Epenesa is somehow valued enough in the transaction to be included at all (salary relief there?). No more or less valid, this proposal, of course, than any other as an entry in the ongoing chatter. 1 Quote
Victory Formation Posted February 22 Posted February 22 30: R1 P30 DL Kenneth Grant - Michigan 56: R2 P24 EDGE Jordan Burch - Oregon 62: R2 P30 S Xavier Watts - Notre Dame 108: R4 P7 CB Jacob Parrish - Kansas State 131: R4 P30 WR Kaden Prather - Maryland 137: R4 P36 RB Devin Neal - Kansas 169: R5 P32 LB Kobe King - Penn State 176: R6 P1 S Dante Trader - Maryland 203: R6 P28 EDGE R.J. Oben - Notre Dame 205: R6 P30 QB Max Brosmer - Minnesota 1 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: This Garrett trade breakdown seems favorable for the Bills compared to some earlier guesses/projections. Two late firsts is the cost here, essentially. Plus Epenesa is somehow valued enough in the transaction to be included at all (salary relief there?). No more or less valid, this proposal, of course, than any other as an entry in the ongoing chatter. If it's just two 1s and epenesa. Obviously I think we should do it 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted February 22 Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: If it's just two 1s and epenesa. Obviously I think we should do it There is a Bills 4th leaving and a 5th and 7th coming back, but those are whatever. 1 Quote
Victory Formation Posted February 22 Posted February 22 30: R1 P30 EDGE Mike Green - Marshall 56: R2 P24 DL Shemar Turner - Texas A&M 62: R2 P30 S Nick Emmanwori - South Carolina 108: R4 P7 WR Tai Felton - Maryland 131: R4 P30 RB R.J. Harvey Jr. - UCF 137: R4 P36 EDGE Fadil Diggs - Syracuse 169: R5 P32 CB Jermari Harris - Iowa 176: R6 P1 WR Antwane Wells Jr. - Mississippi 203: R6 P28 S Dante Trader Jr. - Maryland 205: R6 P30 CB Jaylin Smith - USC 1 Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Just getting into the draft and learning prospects. Still have a lot of research to do.🫣 I did trade 62 for 83 and a 2026 4th with Pittsburgh. Only a 5 round draft. 1 Quote
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted February 22 Posted February 22 5 hours ago, ghostwriter said: 30: R1 P30 EDGE Mike Green - Marshall 56: R2 P24 DL Shemar Turner - Texas A&M 62: R2 P30 S Nick Emmanwori - South Carolina 108: R4 P7 WR Tai Felton - Maryland 131: R4 P30 RB R.J. Harvey Jr. - UCF 137: R4 P36 EDGE Fadil Diggs - Syracuse 169: R5 P32 CB Jermari Harris - Iowa 176: R6 P1 WR Antwane Wells Jr. - Mississippi 203: R6 P28 S Dante Trader Jr. - Maryland 205: R6 P30 CB Jaylin Smith - USC Love the Harvey pick, kid is heck of a rb!! 1 Quote
BisonBilly Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/18/2025 at 2:45 PM, Mat68 said: Isiah Simmons. Is he a linebaker? Is he fluid enough to play safety? With 2 high safety and light numbered boxes where does he play. In college put him at wide side slot/baker and let him roam. NFL, narrower hashes more 2 way go situations. Can he guard a pro slot? As with Bishop does he have the feel for deep safety and how is he at the point of attack. Taller safeties seem like studs but none of them have exceeded expectations for the most part. I was only using him as an example, of the crazy ranges I’m seeing some players projected. Quote
KOKBILLS Posted February 23 Posted February 23 I traded down and got the 3rd back... I'm assuming Revel is going to be 100%, and admitting I have no idea right now. I did see a video on FB back in early Jan of him running lightly, and well, on a treadmill... So that pretty much makes me a Doctor now... I would like to see the Bills Draft a healthy Revel...or Darian Porter on Day 2... I want one of those two players. I have my reasons. I think 56 is right where Collins should go and I think that's right where the Bills should take him. One dimensional or not. He has large dimensions. I really like Royals for the Bills. I like everything about that... As a Michigan fan I watched Stewart a ton, he's a weapon as a pass rusher. I can't tell you the amount of times I was impressed by his complete arsenal. I felt like he really put it all together this year. When he is on he has everything as a pass rusher. He's small...but so what? The Bills have to get creative. Lorenzo Alexander was not big. Von Miller is not big. Winston had a crazy low missed tackle rate, he's fast, and I just like Penn St prospects now I guess...I wanted to get depth at CB, LB, OL, Draft a QB only because it's more fun, and get a RB just in case... Quote
Maine-iac Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Wanted a RB in the middle rounds but he got taken so I ended up with this. 1 Quote
Maine-iac Posted February 23 Posted February 23 21 hours ago, ghostwriter said: 30: R1 P30 EDGE Mike Green - Marshall 56: R2 P24 DL Shemar Turner - Texas A&M 62: R2 P30 S Nick Emmanwori - South Carolina 108: R4 P7 WR Tai Felton - Maryland 131: R4 P30 RB R.J. Harvey Jr. - UCF 137: R4 P36 EDGE Fadil Diggs - Syracuse 169: R5 P32 CB Jermari Harris - Iowa 176: R6 P1 WR Antwane Wells Jr. - Mississippi 203: R6 P28 S Dante Trader Jr. - Maryland 205: R6 P30 CB Jaylin Smith - USC Starks and Emmanwori were both gone in the first and Barron and Watts were gone by pick 40 when I ran the simulator. I like Mukuba but was suprised how fast safeties were coming off the board. Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted February 24 Posted February 24 On 2/22/2025 at 1:13 AM, ghostwriter said: 30: R1 P30 DL Kenneth Grant - Michigan 56: R2 P24 EDGE Jordan Burch - Oregon 62: R2 P30 S Xavier Watts - Notre Dame 108: R4 P7 CB Jacob Parrish - Kansas State 131: R4 P30 WR Kaden Prather - Maryland 137: R4 P36 RB Devin Neal - Kansas 169: R5 P32 LB Kobe King - Penn State 176: R6 P1 S Dante Trader - Maryland 203: R6 P28 EDGE R.J. Oben - Notre Dame 205: R6 P30 QB Max Brosmer - Minnesota Devin Neal is my favorite RB , I hope he's there Rd 4. Quote
RyanC883 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) went a bit heavy on the lines there! Edited February 24 by RyanC883 1 Quote
whorlnut Posted February 24 Posted February 24 I realize Kenneth Grant is gonna be a popular name for a lot of fans, but go look at his draft profile. Just about every evaluation says he’s a “work in progress” as a pass rusher. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t want another guy that just takes up double teams and can’t get home. Get me a wrecker that gets to the qb. Derrick Harmon and Walter Nolen are those guys from what I’ve read. I’ve really cooled on Kenneth Grant after reading more about him. Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 20 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I realize Kenneth Grant is gonna be a popular name for a lot of fans, but go look at his draft profile. Just about every evaluation says he’s a “work in progress” as a pass rusher. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t want another guy that just takes up double teams and can’t get home. Get me a wrecker that gets to the qb. Derrick Harmon and Walter Nolen are those guys from what I’ve read. I’ve really cooled on Kenneth Grant after reading more about him. I understand your concern, but I think Grant has the athletic ability to be more than a run-down space-eater. He probably isn't going to be another Aaron Donald (who is?), but I think the Bills would be very fortunate to have a shot at Grant at pick 30. I suspect he will be long-gone by then. They do need someone next to Ed Oliver who has some heft and power to hold the line. With Daquan Jones recovering from injury/aging, the Bills are very vulnerable up front with the undersized Oliver, playing only 2 LBs both of whom are undersized and playing a small (but good tackling) nickel in Taron Johnson. Quote
whorlnut Posted February 24 Posted February 24 51 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I understand your concern, but I think Grant has the athletic ability to be more than a run-down space-eater. He probably isn't going to be another Aaron Donald (who is?), but I think the Bills would be very fortunate to have a shot at Grant at pick 30. I suspect he will be long-gone by then. They do need someone next to Ed Oliver who has some heft and power to hold the line. With Daquan Jones recovering from injury/aging, the Bills are very vulnerable up front with the undersized Oliver, playing only 2 LBs both of whom are undersized and playing a small (but good tackling) nickel in Taron Johnson. I still think I’d rather have nolen or Harmon. Quote
KOKBILLS Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: I realize Kenneth Grant is gonna be a popular name for a lot of fans, but go look at his draft profile. Just about every evaluation says he’s a “work in progress” as a pass rusher. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t want another guy that just takes up double teams and can’t get home. Get me a wrecker that gets to the qb. Derrick Harmon and Walter Nolen are those guys from what I’ve read. I’ve really cooled on Kenneth Grant after reading more about him. It likely won't matter because Grant will go in the top 20. Admittedly I'm a biased Michigan fan, and certainly Grant is not a finished product... But he's a monster in waiting. He can do things at his size not many men in the NFL can. He has the necessary tools to be a disruptive force on Passing Downs. He's shown it plenty. It's on tape. He gets into the backfield with suddenness and that massive frame. Just coach him up... 15 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I still think I’d rather have nolen or Harmon. I think there definitely will be teams that have Nolen higher than Grant... Harmon is fine too... Quote
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