Gunner's 2025 Mock Draft - v2.0 now LIVE on p.11

[3rdand12]

4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

If the draft falls this way Beane should pull a hamstring running to turn the card in for Grant.

 

I just don't see him falling that far.

you mean after the hamstring ?

Hope he is limbering up as we speak

if it's close ? you work the damned phones. Grant Grant Grant !

[Process]

Thanks Gunner. I'd be very happy with Grant. In general i'd say I'm not a huge fan of DTs in round 1. But in this case it would fill a huge need and seems like it would also be a good value pick. A dominant presence next to Oliver could help unlock everyone else in the front 7. 

[MikePJ76]

Kiper and Jeremiah had Grant to the bills at 30 also!  

 

Would be great if they stayed put and got a really good player like grant.  

 

I am really worried about the corner position at the moment however.  I feel like Beane screwed the pooch not paying one and has now created a dire need at the position.  

[Mark Vader]

@GunnerBill very well thought out draft. I'm all for drafting Kenneth Grant, although I would be stunned if he lasted all the way to 30.

 

You have Emeka Egbuka going to the Eagles. If Egbuka is still available when we pick, he would be tough to pass up for the Bills.

[nosejob]

1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said:

Kiper and Jeremiah had Grant to the bills at 30 also!  

 

Would be great if they stayed put and got a really good player like grant.  

 

I am really worried about the corner position at the moment however.  I feel like Beane screwed the pooch not paying one and has now created a dire need at the position.  

IDK where he has Harmon, but I think I'm liking him a bit more than Grant.

[OldTimer1960]

3 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Kiper and Jeremiah had Grant to the bills at 30 also!  

 

Would be great if they stayed put and got a really good player like grant.  

 

I am really worried about the corner position at the moment however.  I feel like Beane screwed the pooch not paying one and has now created a dire need at the position.  

CB is a big problem (as you said).  I am starting to wonder if they plan to pay Benford and have decided that they need the other starter on a rookie contract to make the cap $ work.  If that's the case, I do understand - it's just that there is no guarantee that they will even have a shot at a CB who could be a decent starter as a rookie.  Even if they do have a shot at one, what will they have to pass on at other positions to pull the trigger on the CB?  Biggest concern is that this isn't a bad CB draft, but it also isn't a particularly strong CB draft class, either.

 

[nosejob]

56 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

CB is a big problem (as you said).  I am starting to wonder if they plan to pay Benford and have decided that they need the other starter on a rookie contract to make the cap $ work.  If that's the case, I do understand - it's just that there is no guarantee that they will even have a shot at a CB who could be a decent starter as a rookie.  Even if they do have a shot at one, what will they have to pass on at other positions to pull the trigger on the CB?  Biggest concern is that this isn't a bad CB draft, but it also isn't a particularly strong CB draft class, either.

 

I think Benford and Cook are the kind of signings that happen over the summer. There's always one or 2 of those?

[3rdand12]

7 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Kiper and Jeremiah had Grant to the bills at 30 also!  

 

Would be great if they stayed put and got a really good player like grant.  

 

I am really worried about the corner position at the moment however.  I feel like Beane screwed the pooch not paying one and has now created a dire need at the position.  

I agree with the bolded for sure. Too early to decide about Beanes off season just yet though PJ

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, nosejob said:

I think Benford and Cook are the kind of signings that happen over the summer. There's always one or 2 of those?

yep, about the timeline. Beanes leverage is time/waiting , and the draft for those two contracts.

 

No pressure at all this Draft Mr Beane 😋

 Only need two starters. The kid in the Middle who changes Bills D line instantly and Grant fits that Bill (lol) pun intended

And the CB.

But anyone think they Bills might be of the mindset they are starting Dane  and perhaps drafting CB is the lesser priority? Or Vice Versa ??

[OldTimer1960]

45 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

yep, about the timeline. Beanes leverage is time/waiting , and the draft for those two contracts.

 

No pressure at all this Draft Mr Beane 😋

 Only need two starters. The kid in the Middle who changes Bills D line instantly and Grant fits that Bill (lol) pun intended

And the CB.

But anyone think they Bills might be of the mindset they are starting Dane  and perhaps drafting CB is the lesser priority? Or Vice Versa ??

That is a very frightening thought.

[BigAl2526]

5 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

yep, about the timeline. Beanes leverage is time/waiting , and the draft for those two contracts.

 

No pressure at all this Draft Mr Beane 😋

 Only need two starters. The kid in the Middle who changes Bills D line instantly and Grant fits that Bill (lol) pun intended

And the CB.

But anyone think they Bills might be of the mindset they are starting Dane  and perhaps drafting CB is the lesser priority? Or Vice Versa ??

I can't believe that Beane thinks Jackson can hold down the starting CB job across from Benford.  He was limited in the amount of free agent dollars he had to spend, and made the choice to hand a sizable contract to Joey Bosa and several moderate contracts at other positions of need.  He's going to draft a CB he thinks can be a decent starter.

[3rdand12]

18 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

I can't believe that Beane thinks Jackson can hold down the starting CB job across from Benford.  He was limited in the amount of free agent dollars he had to spend, and made the choice to hand a sizable contract to Joey Bosa and several moderate contracts at other positions of need.  He's going to draft a CB he thinks can be a decent starter.

I might agree that Beane is looking to the draft to upgrade the CB position. I was hoping not to be dependent on that and resolved in FA.

But the money wasn't there I suppose.

 Would have rather drafted the DT and Edge this time around or 1st two picks perhaps ?, grab a decent ceiling CB and boundary WR after

[BigAl2526]

3 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

I might agree that Beane is looking to the draft to upgrade the CB position. I was hoping not to be dependent on that and resolved in FA.

But the money wasn't there I suppose.

 Would have rather drafted the DT and Edge this time around or 1st two picks perhaps ?, grab a decent ceiling CB and boundary WR after

Ideally, that's what Beane would hope to do.  The tight cap forced him to make some tough choices on where to spend, presumably based on the availability of potentially impactful free agents and the positions they pay.  Yours is a valid position.  Beane apparently disagreed.

[Low Positive]

6 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

Ideally, that's what Beane would hope to do.  The tight cap forced him to make some tough choices on where to spend, presumably based on the availability of potentially impactful free agents and the positions they pay.  Yours is a valid position.  Beane apparently disagreed.

They could have found the money for the right guy, but the players that were worth that never hit FA at premium positions like CB or WR. 

[KOKBILLS]

I really like Harmon... I feel like he's the kind of prospect the Bills never Draft. And I don't think that's a good thing. 

 

I'm not a big fan of JT at 56, especially with Ezeiruaku still on the board. TBH I'm not a JT guy at all...I think he's just OK. I realize they are very different players, but EZ has some elite pass rush upside and he would be a steal at 56. I like Bond, but I think he's more of a slot/gadget guy... I would take Darian Porter in that spot and figure out a way to Draft Dont'e Thornton a little later instead. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:09 AM by KOKBILLS

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, KOKBILLS said:

I really like Harmon... I feel like he's the kind of prospect the Bills never Draft. And I don't think that's a good thing. 

 

I'm not a big fan of JT at 56, especially with Ezeiruaku still on the board. TBH I'm not a JT guy at all...I think he's just OK. I realize they are very different players, but EZ has some elite pass rush upside and he would be a steal at 56. I like Bond, but I think he's more of a slot/gadget guy... I would take Darian Porter in that spot and figure out a way to Draft Dont'e Thornton a little later instead. 

 

You are still looking at version 1. But I disagree on Ezeiruaku having elite upside. I don't see much ceiling there. To me he is already kinda close to his maximum. High floor, kinda low ceiling. However, in version 2 you will see he doesn't even make it to the Bills' first round pick. Equally, if I was doing a second round now I wouldn't take JTT there either. 

[Doc Brown]

On 3/24/2025 at 2:35 PM, nosejob said:

I think Benford and Cook are the kind of signings that happen over the summer. There's always one or 2 of those?

T. White, Knox, and Brown was extended in early September.  Oliver in early June.  There's always time but Cook and Benford's stock may never be higher so they could choose to bet on themselves to cash in next year.

Edited Wednesday at 08:10 AM by Doc Brown

[Pete]

I will be ecstatic if Grant slides to us, and we make the pick.  Consistent interior pressure will take pressure off the CBs.  Now we have our DT, we are free to draft WR and multiple CBs

[3rdand12]

20 hours ago, Low Positive said:

They could have found the money for the right guy, but the players that were worth that never hit FA at premium positions like CB or WR. 

There might be an argument from some on this point.

I might have liked to solve the DT who could play Nose and 1 tech from FA. Two if they were cheap. That suspended DT did not delight me whatsoever even before suspension.

 But really not sure they couldn't have slightly overpaid for one of those safeties to improve the team

I am still at  Grant (lol) DE CB and true boundary WR as NEEDS. And now Bills have to look to the draft or find a hidden gem elsewhere. You may be correct as to their thinking and betting on the Draft.

I know now , that I sure am  lol

[nosejob]

On 3/25/2025 at 5:42 PM, 3rdand12 said:

I might agree that Beane is looking to the draft to upgrade the CB position. I was hoping not to be dependent on that and resolved in FA.

But the money wasn't there I suppose.

 Would have rather drafted the DT and Edge this time around or 1st two picks perhaps ?, grab a decent ceiling CB and boundary WR after

Grant/ Harmon   Princely   Porter , then pray Thornton lasts til 109.