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[SoonerBillsFan]

@LEBills. Sorry you put so much work in for nothing.  We should have known.

[Slack_in_MA]

6 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I have always contended that we probably wouldn't know the name of either guy if they were in half of the teams in the league.

 

Brady made them stars.

 

100%. Hell, Edelman was a QB in college or something, wasn’t he?

[LEBills]

9 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

@LEBills. Sorry you put so much work in for nothing.  We should have known.

lol should have known, ill be watching Praether and any UDFA we bring in and try to do a similar write up

[Mikie2times]

Beane has said it before, as have many here, the offense is really good. I wish the highest mind in our org looked at that in the context of our QB generating about 80% of our downfield plays with his scrambling heroics but hey, we are just dumb fans. #beane for life. 

Edited yesterday at 03:40 AM by Mikie2times

[BillsShredder83]

6 hours ago, Pete said:

It is irresponsible to completely ignore WR. 

 

Shakir-slot

Joshua Palmer- is he our #1?

Keon- is he our #2?

Samuel-been hurt most of his career

 

Who is our 5th?

 

Shenault

Hamler

Shavers

Virgil

 

5 WR- Amari-Mack+Palmer = 4 WR

 

Doesn't Josh deserve better Beane?

Whats up with Addison? Sounds like they don't want to pay 2 WRs. Rumored to be our draft crush the Kincaid year. If he's available before the season we need to be hotly in the discussion. 

 

I really liked our draft minus WR, however, the board didn't really fall to us with value. I can respect the discipline to not reach for a guy that's not your dude

[BillsShredder83]

3 hours ago, Success said:

 

I have always contended that we probably wouldn't know the name of either guy if they were in half of the teams in the league.

 

Brady made them stars.

 

Lazy assessment. Welker didn't catch 120+ balls a year being a nobody. Dude was elite elsewhere too

[thenorthremembers]

13 hours ago, JBI$111 said:

 

 

What are you talking about, Diggs was a known talent and it's not like it took a genius front office to make the correct assessment to bring him to the Bill's.

Right.  But the claim was they did ZERO assessment.  

[SCBills]

I’m convinced we’re not done at WR.

 

Beane can say he’s good with Coleman, Shakir, Palmer, oft-injured Samuel and our PS guys all he wants.. I know that’s not true.

 

We brought in a bunch of the same type of WR as Top 30 visits for a reason.   It’s because we know we’re missing that skillset.  
 

Burrow, Hurts get otherworldly weapons. 
 

Lamar gets Henry and a WR room full of high draft picks in Zay Flowers, Rashad Bateman a recent 4th in Tez Walker and a vet in Hopkins.

 

Mahomes has a similar WR room to BUF in Rice, Brown, Worthy, Juju and they add Royals. 
 

We know, and Beane knows, Allen deserves to have, at least, another NFL caliber WR added to this room. 

[Dr. Who]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I’m convinced we’re not done at WR.

 

Beane can say he’s good with Coleman, Shakir, Palmer, oft-injured Samuel and our PS guys all he wants.. I know that’s not true.

 

We brought in a bunch of the same type of WR as Top 30 visits for a reason.   It’s because we know we’re missing that skillset.  
 

Burrow, Hurts get otherworldly weapons. 
 

Lamar gets Henry and a WR room full of high draft picks in Zay Flowers, Rashad Bateman a recent 4th in Tez Walker and a vet in Hopkins.

 

Mahomes has a similar WR room to BUF in Rice, Brown, Worthy, Juju and they add Royals. 
 

We know, and Beane knows, Allen deserves to have, at least, another NFL caliber WR added to this room. 

This is an entirely reasonable post, but I won't believe it until Beane actually acts upon these suppositions.

Edited yesterday at 01:43 PM by Dr. Who

[LEBills]

44 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I’m convinced we’re not done at WR.

 

Beane can say he’s good with Coleman, Shakir, Palmer, oft-injured Samuel and our PS guys all he wants.. I know that’s not true.

 

We brought in a bunch of the same type of WR as Top 30 visits for a reason.   It’s because we know we’re missing that skillset.  
 

Burrow, Hurts get otherworldly weapons. 
 

Lamar gets Henry and a WR room full of high draft picks in Zay Flowers, Rashad Bateman a recent 4th in Tez Walker and a vet in Hopkins.

 

Mahomes has a similar WR room to BUF in Rice, Brown, Worthy, Juju and they add Royals. 
 

We know, and Beane knows, Allen deserves to have, at least, another NFL caliber WR added to this room. 

Mahomes has a much better receiving room

 

Im not sure what they can do to get much  better. Amari and Kennan Allen are the best FAs left then it’s like Deontae Johnson and DJ Chark who both were terrible last year.

 

Maybe they can swing a trade but usually that happens pre-draft. I hope we do

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Mahomes has a much better receiving room

 

Im not sure what they can do to get much  better. Amari and Kennan Allen are the best FAs left then it’s like Deontae Johnson and DJ Chark who both were terrible last year.

 

Maybe they can swing a trade but usually that happens pre-draft. I hope we do

Is Amari washed? I think trade is likely the best option just on the basis of not much to hope for otherwise, though I'm not sure whose potentially available.

[FireChans]

54 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Beane can say he’s good with Coleman, Shakir, Palmer, oft-injured Samuel and our PS guys all he wants.. I know that’s not true

How can we say this when he went to camp with basically the same group last year?

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

How can we say this when he went to camp with basically the same group last year?

Because he knew it wasn’t good enough last year but we were cap strapped in a reset year and his “everybody eats” mantra was enough to put a happy face on a glaring issue until the HOU/BAL games happened. 
 

My guess.. Jones may get cut post 6/1 and we use that money towards a WR that becomes available. 

[FireChans]

Just now, SCBills said:

Because he knew it wasn’t good enough last year but we were cap strapped in a reset year and his “everybody eats” mantra was enough to put a happy face on a glaring issue until the HOU/BAL games happened. 
 

My guess.. Jones may get cut post 6/1 and we use that money towards a WR that becomes available. 

His big offseason acquisition last year was Curtis Samuel but he knew that Curtis Samuel wasn’t good enough? And he knows Josh Palmer isn’t good enough but threw a bucket of money his direction too?

 

At a certain point, this position comes untenable.

 

”we were cap strapped!”

 

“He knows it’s not good enough, he just keeps doing it because XYZ”

 

Barring a significant move at WR prior to camp, which imo is extremely unlikely, I think it’s safe to say that Beane thinks he can get by with this level of talent at WR. And that he does think that guys like Palmer and Samuel are significant adds.

 

There is a level of irony that Palmer/Samuel have a higher cap hit than DK this year

[Rockinon]

17 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Is Amari washed? I think trade is likely the best option just on the basis of not much to hope for otherwise, though I'm not sure whose potentially available.

Amari came and started immediately last year without the benefit of a training camp with Josh. I'm wondering if bringing him back is on Beane's radar. Could be. It's really odd to me that no one has taken a flyer on him thus far. He is older but he still seems to be in good shape and it was pretty obvious that he helped the offense out even though the production wasn't there. I wonder.

[SCBills]

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

His big offseason acquisition last year was Curtis Samuel but he knew that Curtis Samuel wasn’t good enough? And he knows Josh Palmer isn’t good enough but threw a bucket of money his direction too?

 

At a certain point, this position comes untenable.

 

”we were cap strapped!”

 

“He knows it’s not good enough, he just keeps doing it because XYZ”

 

Barring a significant move at WR prior to camp, which imo is extremely unlikely, I think it’s safe to say that Beane thinks he can get by with this level of talent at WR. And that he does think that guys like Palmer and Samuel are significant adds.

 

There is a level of irony that Palmer/Samuel have a higher cap hit than DK this year

We have to operate cap-wise where we can.  And Curtis Samuel, last year, was the level of WR we could pay.  Similarly, Josh Palmer this year is the level of WR we can pay. 
 

I don’t know what else Beane needs to see from Samuel to continue this “when healthy..” view of his ability.   Because, yea, when healthy Samuel did look good last year, but to nobody’s surprise, Samuel was hurt most of the year.

 

I think Beane knew there would be vet WR’s available via trade before the deadline and with a guy like Cooper being had for a 3rd with Cleveland eating cap, he was right.

 

He probably hoped Kincaid would blossom and Samuel would stay healthy.  Neither happened - both dealt with injuries.

 

Here we are in a similar position this year.  We brought in a bunch of WR’s for 30 visits.  He knows we need another guy to round out the room given the injury history of Samuel and a lot of hope that Keon & Kincaid develop this year. 
 

He won’t say it, because obviously that wouldn’t be smart, but his actions pre-draft indicate he knows. 
 

And again.. we’re not asking for a WR1.  Just a guy who can be a deep threat and provide insurance for Samuel if he can’t stay on the field, so we’re not down to 3 WR’s and Practice Squad guys. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 02:49 PM by SCBills

[White Linen]

21 minutes ago, FireChans said:

His big offseason acquisition last year was Curtis Samuel but he knew that Curtis Samuel wasn’t good enough? And he knows Josh Palmer isn’t good enough but threw a bucket of money his direction too?

 

At a certain point, this position comes untenable.

 

”we were cap strapped!”

 

“He knows it’s not good enough, he just keeps doing it because XYZ”

 

Barring a significant move at WR prior to camp, which imo is extremely unlikely, I think it’s safe to say that Beane thinks he can get by with this level of talent at WR. And that he does think that guys like Palmer and Samuel are significant adds.

 

There is a level of irony that Palmer/Samuel have a higher cap hit than DK this year

 

I'm not happy with the WR situation either but at some point you've got to start talking with some minor level of understanding and comprehension.  Who's the free agent WR's you wish Beane signed last year and/or this year?  Name the WR's you wish he drafted?

 

You act like there's all these options that became available.  After QB it's the most difficult position to acquire, so get some perspective.

[LEBills]

38 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Is Amari washed? I think trade is likely the best option just on the basis of not much to hope for otherwise, though I'm not sure whose potentially available.

Amari may be washed

 

The most realistic needle mover is nutty George Pickens but I’m not sure the Bills would do that.

 

Then you have guys like Alex Pierce, Rashid Shaheed coming off an injury, or Jakobi Myers

[FireChans]

Just now, White Linen said:

 

I'm not happy with the WR situation either but at some point you've got to start talking with some minor level of understanding and comprehension.  Who's the free agent WR's you wish Beane signed last year and/or this year?  Name the WR's you wish he drafted?

 

You act like there's all these options that became available.  After QB it's the most difficult position to acquire, so get some perspective.

I wish we traded for DK Metcalf. He cost a second round pick and we luckily had an extra one of those from trading our last WR.

 

Barring that, I would have like trading up in the second round and picking Luther Burden instead of going for Sanders. 
 

Let me know if you have any more questions.

[White Linen]

Just now, FireChans said:

I wish we traded for DK Metcalf. He cost a second round pick and we luckily had an extra one of those from trading our last WR.

 

Barring that, I would have like trading up in the second round and picking Luther Burden instead of going for Sanders. 
 

Let me know if you have any more questions.

 

Oh get out of here with this, Metcalf.  Ok, bye