Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!

[FireChans]

Just now, White Linen said:

 

Oh get out of here with this, Metcalf.  Ok, bye

You asked the question lol.

 

I’m sorry that I think DK Metcalf + a defensive focused draft is a better plan to win a Super Bowl than Josh Palmer + a defensive focused draft.

 

There really is nothing funnier than folks being like “what was your plan huh!” as a trump card then getting smacked down lol

[BeavercreekBillsFan]

When you have the league MVP and the best qb in the nfl, getting him weapons should be job #1 and the easiest job any GM has. Josh has proven he can make ***** that Beane gives him work but why make his life so hard? And it’s crazy people on here are defending it and hoping things will work out with the chargers 3rd string WR,a slow Coleman, and a bunch of other bums besides Shakir. 
 

Someone made a good point earlier that McDermott is going to screw up in big games anyways no matter what defensive players you give him. I agree. So just make the offense unstoppable. Not saying to not address the defense at all. I like some of the guys we drafted. But to ignore Josh is malpractice and honestly a fireable offense for Beane. Yes last year worked overall but you’re just going to run it back like nothing needs to be refreshed to keep teams guessing? WRs are a dime a dozen and we can’t find any good ones. 

Just now, FireChans said:

You asked the question lol.

 

I’m sorry that I think DK Metcalf + a defensive focused draft is a better plan to win a Super Bowl than Josh Palmer + a defensive focused draft.

 

There really is nothing funnier than folks being like “what was your plan huh!” as a trump card then getting smacked down lol

DK is the correct answer. The Steelers have no qb to speak of and yet have a stacked Wr room as always.. plus a better defense than ours by mile if we’re being honest. You can do both, Beane can’t though. His job is SO MUCH EASIER than the Steelers GM job since he has Josh but he can’t get the job done. 

[KOKBILLS]

16 hours ago, LEBills said:

lol should have known, ill be watching Praether and any UDFA we bring in and try to do a similar write up

 

I'm not sure I ever watched more WR's than I did this year. I kept telling folks about how much I liked this WR class... I really felt like it matched up well with the Bills needs. Lots of speed... Lots of 2's, 3's and 4's... Varying skill sets... I constantly found myself thinking...how could they use this guy?...how could the use that guy?... I like how this guy fits... etc...

 

It was fun while it lasted... 

[White Linen]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

You asked the question lol.

 

I’m sorry that I think DK Metcalf + a defensive focused draft is a better plan to win a Super Bowl than Josh Palmer + a defensive focused draft.

 

There really is nothing funnier than folks being like “what was your plan huh!” as a trump card then getting smacked down lol

 

No,.there's nothing worse than unrealistic pouting.  I also asked you for what WR's from last year and this year, since you complained about both.  That's plural and you gave not only one year, but only one option.

 

How do you know we didn't offer pick 56 for Metcalf and they took 52 from Pitts?  So then what, just keep doing more until they say yes?  That's how bad GM's and uneducated fans operate.

[Mikie2times]

Beane has been pretty clear for awhile now. You CAN believe him. He sees our offense as one of the best in the NFL, which it is, which it has been for years, and as a result he doesn’t have a burning desire to upgrade it. It won’t change while he’s here. So people who say we subsidize the rest of the team off Allen’s talent, well, he’s basically telling us that is what we do. The offense will be good with Josh and Josh alone. So he might get a weapon here or there but Beane is going to upgrade positions he or Sean see as a clear weakness to the production of that side of the ball. WR just isn’t going to be a focus when that is how you’re building. 

[FireChans]

45 minutes ago, White Linen said:

So then what, just keep doing more until they say yes? 

Yes. That’s how you get a good player. You outbid another team who also wants a good player.

 

Do you think the Steelers didn’t have to outbid other teams?

 

46 minutes ago, White Linen said:

That's how bad GM's and uneducated fans operate.

 

Didn’t we outbid the Pats for the Diggs trade? Is Beane a bad GM for doing that?

 

46 minutes ago, White Linen said:

No,.there's nothing worse than unrealistic pouting.  I also asked you for what WR's from last year and this year, since you complained about both

I’m on record for wanting Darnell Mooney as my #1 target last offseason. Posted about it probably 20 times. He signed for similar AAV as Curtis Samuel.

 

He had more yards than Cooper,  Samuel and Mack combined lol. His 2024 season woud’ve led the Bills in yards.

[Pete]

1 hour ago, Mikie2times said:

Beane has been pretty clear for awhile now. You CAN believe him. He sees our offense as one of the best in the NFL, which it is, which it has been for years, and as a result he doesn’t have a burning desire to upgrade it. It won’t change while he’s here. So people who say we subsidize the rest of the team off Allen’s talent, well, he’s basically telling us that is what we do. The offense will be good with Josh and Josh alone. So he might get a weapon here or there but Beane is going to upgrade positions he or Sean see as a clear weakness to the production of that side of the ball. WR just isn’t going to be a focus when that is how you’re building. 

Do you think Michael Jordan thought “I’m so good- I don’t need to improve”?  That is a loser mentality.  Does Beane think the offense is so good that it can’t be better?    Again, that is loser mentality 

[Mikie2times]

13 minutes ago, Pete said:

Do you think Michael Jordan thought “I’m so good- I don’t need to improve”?  That is a loser mentality.  Does Beane think the offense is so good that it can’t be better?    Again, that is loser mentality 

I don't disagree that his views have serious shortcomings. I'm just trying to be clear, that he doesn't view this as a problem like others do. Which yes, is a problem. 

Edited yesterday at 05:53 PM by Mikie2times

[JBI$111]

4 hours ago, SCBills said:

We have to operate cap-wise where we can.  And Curtis Samuel, last year, was the level of WR we could pay.  Similarly, Josh Palmer this year is the level of WR we can pay. 
 

I don’t know what else Beane needs to see from Samuel to continue this “when healthy..” view of his ability.   Because, yea, when healthy Samuel did look good last year, but to nobody’s surprise, Samuel was hurt most of the year.

 

I think Beane knew there would be vet WR’s available via trade before the deadline and with a guy like Cooper being had for a 3rd with Cleveland eating cap, he was right.

 

He probably hoped Kincaid would blossom and Samuel would stay healthy.  Neither happened - both dealt with injuries.

 

Here we are in a similar position this year.  We brought in a bunch of WR’s for 30 visits.  He knows we need another guy to round out the room given the injury history of Samuel and a lot of hope that Keon & Kincaid develop this year. 
 

He won’t say it, because obviously that wouldn’t be smart, but his actions pre-draft indicate he knows. 
 

And again.. we’re not asking for a WR1.  Just a guy who can be a deep threat and provide insurance for Samuel if he can’t stay on the field, so we’re not down to 3 WR’s and Practice Squad guys. 

 

 

 

Right, which is exactly why we should have been at least taking a shot and drafting wide receivers this year, last year (more than one), the year before etc... on rookie contracts and developing them so we have a robust talented crop of wide receivers on cheap contracts that have developed. Beane has done none of that, drafting one receiver who's slow in the last 3 years, that's what's considered criminally negligent to your team and a team that has a top three quarterback. And the collection of misfits that they've brought in from free agency over the past few years to try to appease the fan base and offensive side of the ball where Beane is thinking that's more than adequate, has been middling at best.

 

I'm not even sure I trust them to make the correct evaluation of proper talent in the wide receiver area from what's been shown historically when they've picked wide receivers or even brought some in and last year especially, was a year to draft multiple wide receivers and Beane/McDermott yet again, chose not to!  

 

It seems & appears basically McDermott is telling Beane what type of players and whom at what position to pick because it's generally mostly defense and the type of player McDermott covets. Again, as I've said previously, the only area that they've been relatively successful at drafting is in the middle rounds historically (if everyone's is being honest and objective).

[White Linen]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Yes. That’s how you get a good player. You outbid another team who also wants a good player.

 

Do you think the Steelers didn’t have to outbid other teams?

 

 

Didn’t we outbid the Pats for the Diggs trade? Is Beane a bad GM for doing that?

 

I’m on record for wanting Darnell Mooney as my #1 target last offseason. Posted about it probably 20 times. He signed for similar AAV as Curtis Samuel.

 

He had more yards than Cooper,  Samuel and Mack combined lol. His 2024 season woud’ve led the Bills in yards.

 

How did we ever miss out on Darnell Mooney?  Wow, what an amazing credit to your acumen as a scout.  Who cares if you mentioned him 20 times, are you expecting everyone to remember?  Why didn't you mention him in your original response today.

 

Just imagine everyone, Mooney as a Buffalo Bill.  

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, White Linen said:

 

How did we ever miss out on Darnell Mooney?  Wow, what an amazing credit to your acumen as a scout.  Who cares if you mentioned him 20 times, are you expecting everyone to remember?  Why didn't you mention him in your original response today.

 

Just imagine everyone, Mooney as a Buffalo Bill.  

lmao someone is really upset they got taken to the woodshed. Tomorrow is a new day to post bro. 

[White Linen]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

lmao someone is really upset they got taken to the woodshed. Tomorrow is a new day to post bro. 

 

When your shining point for critiquing Beane is Darnell Mooney and trading for Metcalf, there's a lot for you to learn. 

 

You literally can't have enough information to comment, one.  Two, it's just so weak.  

 

We all get it, your schtick is to post negatively.  It's just that you're so bad at it.

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, White Linen said:

 

When your shining point for critiquing Beane is Darnell Mooney and trading for Metcalf, there's a lot for you to learn. 

 

You literally can't have enough information to comment, one.  Two, it's just so weak.  

 

We all get it, your schtick is to post negatively.  It's just that you're so bad at it.

 

6 hours ago, White Linen said:

 

I'm not happy with the WR situation either but at some point you've got to start talking with some minor level of understanding and comprehension.  Who's the free agent WR's you wish Beane signed last year and/or this year?  Name the WR's you wish he drafted?

 

You act like there's all these options that became available.  After QB it's the most difficult position to acquire, so get some perspective.

Well then why did you even ask lmao.

 

You got dunked on, now you are trying to backtrack. Extremely funny, and extremely sad.

Edited yesterday at 09:27 PM by FireChans

[TBBills Fan]

Not a bullet train I'm guessing

[White Linen]

6 hours ago, FireChans said:

 

Well then why did you even ask lmao.

 

You got dunked on, now you are trying to backtrack. Extremely funny, and extremely sad.

 

I asked to expose you and it worked perfectly.  Trading for Metcalf would have been idiotic and it was wanted by an ....

 

Get it now?  Of course you don't, it's why the trading for Metcalf analogy fits perfectly.

[FireChans]

7 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

I asked to expose you and it worked perfectly.  Trading for Metcalf would have been idiotic and it was wanted by an ....

 

Get it now?  Of course you don't, it's why the trading for Metcalf analogy fits perfectly.

[Big Blitz]

17 minutes ago, FireChans said:

 

 

Would we have been able to pay CB and Rousseau if we traded for DK?

[FireChans]

43 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Would we have been able to pay CB and Rousseau if we traded for DK?

Yes but more importantly, neither were FA’s.

[White Linen]

42 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Would we have been able to pay CB and Rousseau if we traded for DK?

 

Definitely not both or no Bosa or Palmer.  He can take his choice.  Then no TJ Sanders also.  

 

It just isn't smart.  Hence it married well with that poster.

[FireChans]

Just now, White Linen said:

 

Definitely not both or no Bosa or Palmer.  He can take his choice.  Then no TJ Sanders also.  

 

It just isn't smart.  Hence it married well with that poster.

Oh my god, no Josh Palmer. Perish the thought lol