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[LEBills]

My personal 2025 WR rankings:
 

WR24 Andrew Armstrong WR Arkansas (Rd6 - UDFA)

 

- Led the SEC in receiving yards this year (1140)

- Is a hitch route merchant, catching 27 of these routes for 324 yards including 9 15+ yard explosive gains.

-9.49 RAS, second in career yards per game behind Tet McMillan and a career Yprr of 2.57

 

What does he do on film?

 

Very QB friendly

-:17 large catch radius on errant throws

 

-5:38 works his way back to QB on scramble drill

 

Downfield ability

-6:11 Does a nice job against the press to maintain good space between him and the sideline. Excellent ball tracking to come up with the over the shoulder catch.

 

- 7:10 rinse and repeat

 

- 11:42 ditto

 

Toughness after the catch

- 10:17 hit a lot of crossing routes throughout this season. When able to make the catch on the run has enough speed to get to the corner on underneath defenders

 

- 10:30 a player who gains yac by running through defenders rather than away from them

 

- 14:52 you see throughout the highlights Armstrong running slants against off coverage, giving his QB an easy target.

 

Weaknesses:

-Armstorng will be 25 in October, what you see is what you will get

-Takes a long time to accelerate and does not have top end speed to run away from defenders

-Lack of twitch means his best routes are the ones Arkansas ran him on - hitch, crossers, slants and 9s - where he can use his body to block off defenders and run through them after the catch

 

Conclusion:

Experienced WR with ability to make explosive plays but not home runs. Ball tracking skills are one of the things I look for as a baseline competency and he has it. Depth WR at best in NFL.

 

 

[LEBills]

My personal 2025 WR rankings:

WR23  Jaylin Lane WR VT (Rd 6-UDFA)

 

-Sub 5’10’’. Thick build with long arms and big hands. 9.53 RAS

-YAC threat that has averaged above 8 YAC in each of his college seasons

-Slot WR that was used on tunnel screens, crossers and end arounds

-A capable punt returner

 

What does he do on film?

https://youtu.be/4lSTjB1raFc?si=ncysBxn5-Bo7OGmX

 

-High end comp would be Khalil Shakir

-The goal for the VT offense was to give him some room in space to let him create

-As such most of his catches were near the line and so his route running is very lacking

 

Conclusion:

Team fit is going to be very important for Lane. A team that can scheme him touches may be able to use him in packages. Most likely path to a roster is at a punt returner and developmental WR.

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

On 3/21/2025 at 8:59 AM, LEBills said:

My personal 2025 WR rankings:
 

WR24 Andrew Armstrong WR Arkansas (Rd6 - UDFA)

 

- Led the SEC in receiving yards this year (1140)

- Is a hitch route merchant, catching 27 of these routes for 324 yards including 9 15+ yard explosive gains.

-9.49 RAS, second in career yards per game behind Tet McMillan and a career Yprr of 2.57

 

What does he do on film?

 

Very QB friendly

-:17 large catch radius on errant throws

 

-5:38 works his way back to QB on scramble drill

 

Downfield ability

-6:11 Does a nice job against the press to maintain good space between him and the sideline. Excellent ball tracking to come up with the over the shoulder catch.

 

- 7:10 rinse and repeat

 

- 11:42 ditto

 

Toughness after the catch

- 10:17 hit a lot of crossing routes throughout this season. When able to make the catch on the run has enough speed to get to the corner on underneath defenders

 

- 10:30 a player who gains yac by running through defenders rather than away from them

 

- 14:52 you see throughout the highlights Armstrong running slants against off coverage, giving his QB an easy target.

 

Weaknesses:

-Armstorng will be 25 in October, what you see is what you will get

-Takes a long time to accelerate and does not have top end speed to run away from defenders

-Lack of twitch means his best routes are the ones Arkansas ran him on - hitch, crossers, slants and 9s - where he can use his body to block off defenders and run through them after the catch

 

Conclusion:

Experienced WR with ability to make explosive plays but not home runs. Ball tracking skills are one of the things I look for as a baseline competency and he has it. Depth WR at best in NFL.

 

 

I saw him I think against Bama.  Whichever game I saw he seemed to stand out.

[nosejob]

On 3/21/2025 at 9:59 AM, LEBills said:

My personal 2025 WR rankings:
 

WR24 Andrew Armstrong WR Arkansas (Rd6 - UDFA)

 

- Led the SEC in receiving yards this year (1140)

- Is a hitch route merchant, catching 27 of these routes for 324 yards including 9 15+ yard explosive gains.

-9.49 RAS, second in career yards per game behind Tet McMillan and a career Yprr of 2.57

 

What does he do on film?

 

Very QB friendly

-:17 large catch radius on errant throws

 

-5:38 works his way back to QB on scramble drill

 

Downfield ability

-6:11 Does a nice job against the press to maintain good space between him and the sideline. Excellent ball tracking to come up with the over the shoulder catch.

 

- 7:10 rinse and repeat

 

- 11:42 ditto

 

Toughness after the catch

- 10:17 hit a lot of crossing routes throughout this season. When able to make the catch on the run has enough speed to get to the corner on underneath defenders

 

- 10:30 a player who gains yac by running through defenders rather than away from them

 

- 14:52 you see throughout the highlights Armstrong running slants against off coverage, giving his QB an easy target.

 

Weaknesses:

-Armstorng will be 25 in October, what you see is what you will get

-Takes a long time to accelerate and does not have top end speed to run away from defenders

-Lack of twitch means his best routes are the ones Arkansas ran him on - hitch, crossers, slants and 9s - where he can use his body to block off defenders and run through them after the catch

 

Conclusion:

Experienced WR with ability to make explosive plays but not home runs. Ball tracking skills are one of the things I look for as a baseline competency and he has it. Depth WR at best in NFL.

 

 

WOT?

[nosejob]

Give me Grant/Harmon   Princely( Danielle Hunter)   Collins (Pat Williams)     Porter   Thornton(Lofton)    Ivey (John Randle)  BPA after.  We end up with 5-6 starters and

our defemse is transformed. Maybe the Ogun will be expendable and Hoecht will come just in time.

 

Our Dline could be  Ivey/ Princely   Groot/ Solomon   Grant/Oliver  Collins / Carter     AJE and Hoecht  filling in on line stunts.

 

On offense I hope we keep Cook, but Thornton is all we need. Samuel is gonna be awesome this year. I hope Josh works on his long ball this off season.

 

But thank you to LEbills for the info. I am intirgued.

 

My bad forgot about Joey. Maybe he'll get 30% before he goes out around week 6 or 7.

Edited Sunday at 12:40 AM by nosejob

[billsfan89]

On 3/21/2025 at 9:59 AM, LEBills said:

My personal 2025 WR rankings:
 

WR24 Andrew Armstrong WR Arkansas (Rd6 - UDFA)

 

- Led the SEC in receiving yards this year (1140)

- Is a hitch route merchant, catching 27 of these routes for 324 yards including 9 15+ yard explosive gains.

-9.49 RAS, second in career yards per game behind Tet McMillan and a career Yprr of 2.57

 

What does he do on film?

 

Very QB friendly

-:17 large catch radius on errant throws

 

-5:38 works his way back to QB on scramble drill

 

Downfield ability

-6:11 Does a nice job against the press to maintain good space between him and the sideline. Excellent ball tracking to come up with the over the shoulder catch.

 

- 7:10 rinse and repeat

 

- 11:42 ditto

 

Toughness after the catch

- 10:17 hit a lot of crossing routes throughout this season. When able to make the catch on the run has enough speed to get to the corner on underneath defenders

 

- 10:30 a player who gains yac by running through defenders rather than away from them

 

- 14:52 you see throughout the highlights Armstrong running slants against off coverage, giving his QB an easy target.

 

Weaknesses:

-Armstorng will be 25 in October, what you see is what you will get

-Takes a long time to accelerate and does not have top end speed to run away from defenders

-Lack of twitch means his best routes are the ones Arkansas ran him on - hitch, crossers, slants and 9s - where he can use his body to block off defenders and run through them after the catch

 

Conclusion:

Experienced WR with ability to make explosive plays but not home runs. Ball tracking skills are one of the things I look for as a baseline competency and he has it. Depth WR at best in NFL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CEN-CAL17]

Definitely grabbing a WR with first 3 picks….. I think they like Ford from Texas or Ayomanor from Stanford….. if Higgins from Iowa St is still there.

Edited Sunday at 02:04 AM by CEN-CAL17

[LEBills]

My personal 2025 WR Rankings: 

#22 Ricky White WR UNLV (Rd 5-7)

 

-Transferred from MSU to UNLV

-Above 3.0 YPRR vs zone (one of the more predictive metrics for future success)

-Solid special teamer at UNLV

 

What does he do on film?

Three level threat

- 8:30 quick pass to Ricky to allow him to use his blocks and creativity for an easy gain

- 2:36 gets the quick pass, breaks a couple of tackles and good body control to extend to the EZ

- 3:42 intermediate inward breaking route on an RPO, able to create easy separation for the catch then shows that yac ability

Basically the same play at 10:42. Super effective.

- 6:12 savy use of natural pick to create space and then run to his mark at back of endzone

- 8:51 easy crossing route he turns up field for a big gain

- 6:50 able to maintain space along sideline and have good body control on the back shoulder throw

- 7:40 he just roasted Utah State over and over

 

Excellent Zone WR

- :20 does a great job following the QB along his passing windows and finding space between the linebacker and secondary

- 3:30 again finds his zone and then shuffled along with the QBs movement to give the best throwing window

Beautiful job in the red zone finding space against the zone for an

 

Weaknesses:

- Does not have NFL size or speed, he would be an outlier if he had success

- Ambiguity about why he was not played and then transferred from MSU, especially since he helped them beat Michigan

- Best fit is in the slot but not overly twitchy or physical

 

Conclusion:

It hurts me to have Ricky this low, especially because his 2023 tape was even better with a more explosive offense. One of my favorite watches of the class. Though he played boundary in college often, his best place would be in the slot where physical corners would not get into his body as easily. Should hang in the end of roster as a solid special teamer and savvy backup WR.

Edited Sunday at 01:16 PM by LEBills

[wppete]

Id be very happy with this guy in the second round. He’s my favourite receiver this year.

 

 

[LEBills]

My personal 2025 WR rankings:

 

#21 Tez Johnson WR Oregon (rd 4-6)

- Lightest player at combine since Aaron Lockett in 2002

- Bo Nix’s adopted brother

- Unguardable at Senior Bowl practice

 

What does he do on film?

 

Excellent crossing routes and speed slot

- :01 you will see him kill people on crossing routes at all depths, very good at getting lost in the traffic

- :19 seriously send him on crossing routes at all depths

- 3:23 takes the contact from Denzel Burke and runs through it, stacking and burning for a long touchdown.

 

YAC and missed tackles forced

- 3:40 decent leg drive through contact, and a long strider

- 3:48 when up to speed can maintain that high speed while adding ankle breaking cuts

- 4:42 crafty in the open field. He is not big but you have to catch him first

- 6:39 if you get a hand in him he goes down, but catching him is not easy

 

Weaknesses:

If he succeeds at his size he and speed, he will be an outlier of outliers

Though he will run through shoestring tackles and juke defenders, he chooses not to fight for extra yards

Slot only player who got most of his yards catching crossing patterns and with a lot of open space ahead of him

 

Conclusion:

One of my other favorite players in this draft, and one I’m nervous to rank this low. Last year when watching Troy Franklin I had to look up when he was coming out because he popped on film. Ultimately, if he is to have success it will be as a Tyler Lockett type starting as a punt returner and being a speed slot who preserves his body when threatened with contact

[McMuffin]

Kyle Williams looks like a good prospect for day 2.

[Dr. Who]

11 minutes ago, McMuffin said:

Kyle Williams looks like a good prospect for day 2.

I like him, but he's too old and slow.

 

[HOUSE]

Route Trees? 

 

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

On 3/23/2025 at 9:15 AM, LEBills said:

My personal 2025 WR Rankings: 

#22 Ricky White WR UNLV (Rd 5-7)

 

-Transferred from MSU to UNLV

-Above 3.0 YPRR vs zone (one of the more predictive metrics for future success)

-Solid special teamer at UNLV

 

What does he do on film?

Three level threat

- 8:30 quick pass to Ricky to allow him to use his blocks and creativity for an easy gain

- 2:36 gets the quick pass, breaks a couple of tackles and good body control to extend to the EZ

- 3:42 intermediate inward breaking route on an RPO, able to create easy separation for the catch then shows that yac ability

Basically the same play at 10:42. Super effective.

- 6:12 savy use of natural pick to create space and then run to his mark at back of endzone

- 8:51 easy crossing route he turns up field for a big gain

- 6:50 able to maintain space along sideline and have good body control on the back shoulder throw

- 7:40 he just roasted Utah State over and over

 

Excellent Zone WR

- :20 does a great job following the QB along his passing windows and finding space between the linebacker and secondary

- 3:30 again finds his zone and then shuffled along with the QBs movement to give the best throwing window

Beautiful job in the red zone finding space against the zone for an

 

Weaknesses:

- Does not have NFL size or speed, he would be an outlier if he had success

- Ambiguity about why he was not played and then transferred from MSU, especially since he helped them beat Michigan

- Best fit is in the slot but not overly twitchy or physical

 

Conclusion:

It hurts me to have Ricky this low, especially because his 2023 tape was even better with a more explosive offense. One of my favorite watches of the class. Though he played boundary in college often, his best place would be in the slot where physical corners would not get into his body as easily. Should hang in the end of roster as a solid special teamer and savvy backup WR.

This is the kinda guy I’d like to see a flier on in the back end of the draft. He could come in and compete for WR5 and play specials. 
 

Probably isnt the WR1 and boundary guy that people want but he could come in and contribute with the chance to develop by adding weight, strength and improved technique to be able to win on the outside down the road 

[LEBills]

56 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

This is the kinda guy I’d like to see a flier on in the back end of the draft. He could come in and compete for WR5 and play specials. 
 

Probably isnt the WR1 and boundary guy that people want but he could come in and contribute with the chance to develop by adding weight, strength and improved technique to be able to win on the outside down the road 

Yea man, he is a really good WR. Him or Tez as like our WR6 would be a good back of roster player with a chance to develop. White has decent length for his size, if he can add enough weight he could hold up on the outside but his frame is pretty narrow

[TBBills Fan]

5 hours ago, LEBills said:

My personal 2025 WR rankings:

 

#21 Tez Johnson WR Oregon (rd 4-6)

- Lightest player at combine since Aaron Lockett in 2002

- Bo Nix’s adopted brother

- Unguardable at Senior Bowl practice

 

What does he do on film?

 

Excellent crossing routes and speed slot

- :01 you will see him kill people on crossing routes at all depths, very good at getting lost in the traffic

- :19 seriously send him on crossing routes at all depths

- 3:23 takes the contact from Denzel Burke and runs through it, stacking and burning for a long touchdown.

 

YAC and missed tackles forced

- 3:40 decent leg drive through contact, and a long strider

- 3:48 when up to speed can maintain that high speed while adding ankle breaking cuts

- 4:42 crafty in the open field. He is not big but you have to catch him first

- 6:39 if you get a hand in him he goes down, but catching him is not easy

 

Weaknesses:

If he succeeds at his size he and speed, he will be an outlier of outliers

Though he will run through shoestring tackles and juke defenders, he chooses not to fight for extra yards

Slot only player who got most of his yards catching crossing patterns and with a lot of open space ahead of him

 

Conclusion:

One of my other favorite players in this draft, and one I’m nervous to rank this low. Last year when watching Troy Franklin I had to look up when he was coming out because he popped on film. Ultimately, if he is to have success it will be as a Tyler Lockett type starting as a punt returner and being a speed slot who preserves his body when threatened with contact

That's such a WR name. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

I do agree with MANY here that the Bills should grab a WR early. I also think when the Bills grab a WR it will be later on then most (myself included) would want to unless one drops and is a great value pick.

 

I'm actually thinking that we may have a WR that they feel can take over some of the Hollins role on STs. I think there's a good chance Shavers is given the opportunity to claim that role. He was billed as a good ST player coming out and he has some size. 

 

Not saying he will be a beast, but I wouldn't be shocked if he earns a jersey on game day next year 

[Richard Noggin]

On 3/21/2025 at 9:59 AM, LEBills said:

My personal 2025 WR rankings:
 

WR24 Andrew Armstrong WR Arkansas (Rd6 - UDFA)

 

- Led the SEC in receiving yards this year (1140)

- Is a hitch route merchant, catching 27 of these routes for 324 yards including 9 15+ yard explosive gains.

-9.49 RAS, second in career yards per game behind Tet McMillan and a career Yprr of 2.57

 

What does he do on film?

 

Very QB friendly

-:17 large catch radius on errant throws

 

-5:38 works his way back to QB on scramble drill

 

Downfield ability

-6:11 Does a nice job against the press to maintain good space between him and the sideline. Excellent ball tracking to come up with the over the shoulder catch.

 

- 7:10 rinse and repeat

 

- 11:42 ditto

 

Toughness after the catch

- 10:17 hit a lot of crossing routes throughout this season. When able to make the catch on the run has enough speed to get to the corner on underneath defenders

 

- 10:30 a player who gains yac by running through defenders rather than away from them

 

- 14:52 you see throughout the highlights Armstrong running slants against off coverage, giving his QB an easy target.

 

Weaknesses:

-Armstorng will be 25 in October, what you see is what you will get

-Takes a long time to accelerate and does not have top end speed to run away from defenders

-Lack of twitch means his best routes are the ones Arkansas ran him on - hitch, crossers, slants and 9s - where he can use his body to block off defenders and run through them after the catch

 

Conclusion:

Experienced WR with ability to make explosive plays but not home runs. Ball tracking skills are one of the things I look for as a baseline competency and he has it. Depth WR at best in NFL.

 

 

 

How is this the very first time I've even seen this prospect's name? I'm no guru, but I do have a couple mock draft simulators on speed dial. Very intriguing profile overall, minus lack of elite speed? Looks like he has Coleman-esque traits but on a Day Three scale? Is that a fair characterization? (We probably don't all agree Coleman was just starting to really flash/produce in the two games before the Poyer targeting injury. So that comp is problematic.)

[Richard Noggin]

10 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I do agree with MANY here that the Bills should grab a WR early. I also think when the Bills grab a WR it will be later on then most (myself included) would want to unless one drops and is a great value pick.

 

I'm actually thinking that we may have a WR that they feel can take over some of the Hollins role on STs. I think there's a good chance Shavers is given the opportunity to claim that role. He was billed as a good ST player coming out and he has some size. 

 

Not saying he will be a beast, but I wouldn't be shocked if he earns a jersey on game day next year 

 

I don't see many other people suggesting Shavers could/should have a role on this team moving forward. He outlasted his drafted competition in Shorter, and has at least flashed in camp, preseason, and finally in his VERY limited but rewarding snaps in the regular season. Would love to see Shavers continue to take advantage of increasing opportunities in 2025 and beyond. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

4 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

I don't see many other people suggesting Shavers could/should have a role on this team moving forward. He outlasted his drafted competition in Shorter, and has at least flashed in camp, preseason, and finally in his VERY limited but rewarding snaps in the regular season. Would love to see Shavers continue to take advantage of increasing opportunities in 2025 and beyond. 

He's stuck around longer than most would have thought. And on his lone touch last year he showed some really good burst popping off that 69 yard TD. I think he's ascending. For him he HAS to make an impact on STs to get the game day jersey. Everyone is forgetting about him but I think he carves out a role