Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!

[The Jokeman]

12 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Other than maybe BJ Hill, there's not much available in FA.  Hill would cost you 8-9/ yr.  We gotta take advantage of a deep DT draft and get a couple monsters.

Tyleik Williams is my early thought of who to draft in Round 1, granted we still have the off-season of free agency before can say for certain.

[DisplacedBillsFan]

On 1/29/2025 at 8:22 AM, Pete said:

 

yes we need DL, CB, DE.  But we have been neglecting Josh and WR his entire career.  4 year agos we desperately needed WR, 3 years ago, 2 years ago, and last year.,  We have ignored Josh's needs.  It is obvious we need WR. For the love of God, get Josh a few talented WRs!

Offense is fine. Every single draft pick should be a defensive player.

[aristocrat]

1 hour ago, DisplacedBillsFan said:

Offense is fine. Every single draft pick should be a defensive player.

Nobody gets open. We need speed at receiver. Draft egbuka first round to get speed. Then go defense. It’s why we had to trade for cooper during the season. The offense was early in the season in fact not fine. 

[DisplacedBillsFan]

On 2/1/2025 at 4:56 PM, aristocrat said:

Nobody gets open. We need speed at receiver. Draft egbuka first round to get speed. Then go defense. It’s why we had to trade for cooper during the season. The offense was early in the season in fact not fine. 

2nd most points per game, behind only Detroit. 30.9 pts per game. How many points do you want to score?

 

 Offense is absolutely fine.

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, DisplacedBillsFan said:

2nd most points per game, behind only Detroit. 30.9 pts per game. How many points do you want to score?

 

 Offense is absolutely fine.

The offense was fine with Cooper and Mack.  Are they both returning?  If so, I think that we’re fine.  I don’t think they’re both returning-  hence, not fine.

 

i do agree that the defense is what is holding us back every year and is a much bigger problem than our offense. Injuries have been a big part of it- but more than anything- our DL routinely disappears in season ending losses.  Corners playing yards off their man and giving up easy yards.  

[quincy]

Mack has fully shown Buffalo what he can offer Buffalo this season, is well loved and brings a bit of an X factor to the team.

 

Amari hasn't but in spoken words has said he is happy to be here on a winning team.

 

If only one comes back, who is more valuable? Probably Mack for me as he offers multiple facets to the Bills.

 

Interesting dilemma as to whether they run back essentially the whole same offense next year given the 30/30 rushing/passing touchdowns - success versus potential stagnation.

 

 

[TheBeaneBandit]

24 minutes ago, DisplacedBillsFan said:

2nd most points per game, behind only Detroit. 30.9 pts per game. How many points do you want to score?

 

 Offense is absolutely fine.

While the D needs what we all know it needs, the offense can't stay complacent either. Even if we bring Cooper back, one of the 2nd rounders probably needs to be an explosive receiver/understudy....even potential Shakir backup (in case we lose him). 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

We need a speed guy/separator and to re-sign Coop and Hollins. Problem is …who ya sittin? Coleman? Samual? Definitely not Khalil. Maybe just use Samuel more on some deep stuff. He was hurt the majority of the season. 

[NewEra]

33 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

We need a speed guy/separator and to re-sign Coop and Hollins. Problem is …who ya sittin? Coleman? Samual? Definitely not Khalil. Maybe just use Samuel more on some deep stuff. He was hurt the majority of the season. 

I highly doubt that we get coop, Hollins and a speed guy/separator unless he’s a round 4+ guy.

 

those 2 WRs would likely cost 17M+ total- if we resign both- the chances of using most of our draft picks on D is very likely imo.  

[97bills]

On 1/29/2025 at 8:27 AM, ddaryl said:

KC was in Allens face all game. If we did the same to Mahommes the result could of been different IMO. I agree Allen did not have the time to be comfortable much of game and it showed with poorly thrown passes

As for WR. Yes we could use WR, but this team was able to scroe 30 points +++ most games with what we have, so I do not view WR to be a 1st rd need as much as I would prefer DL that can make a difference.

Exactly what I have been saying, buffalo has to fight for every inch no pun intended, while KC has it easy, picking up huge chunks, then we get to hear how great Mahomes is, a average QB could’ve carved us up in that game. 

[ShakAttack]

Problem is this. Most fans want Hollins back, right? Ok let’s say he is back, then we have 4 receivers returning

 

shakir

hollins

coleman

samuel 

 

not a whole lot of room for an upgrade. Maybe 1 guy? Funny thing is, If we do that, it may be at Coleman’s expense, so they continue to bet on Coleman despite his inability to separate and try to let him develop? Or do we look for an instant upgrade? 

[Pete]

4 hours ago, ShakAttack said:

Problem is this. Most fans want Hollins back, right? Ok let’s say he is back, then we have 4 receivers returning

 

shakir

hollins

coleman

samuel 

 

not a whole lot of room for an upgrade. Maybe 1 guy? Funny thing is, If we do that, it may be at Coleman’s expense, so they continue to bet on Coleman despite his inability to separate and try to let him develop? Or do we look for an instant upgrade? 

We add two more skilled WR I predict.  Coleman has been a major bust, especially since the Poyer hit.  I see it, Beane sees it, McD sees it.  IMO we draft Jack Bech, re-sign Hollin and add a speed guy.

Shakir

Hollins

Samuel

Bech

Chris Godwin or speed guy

Coleman 6th WR barely making roster

12 hours ago, DisplacedBillsFan said:

2nd most points per game, behind only Detroit. 30.9 pts per game. How many points do you want to score?

 

 Offense is absolutely fine.

3:30 minutes left, 3 TO, only needing a FG, and failing.  My eyes work, and I see zero separation all season long. I see a massive fail in draft pick in Coleman.  Last year we needed a separator, and added Coleman- WTF?  We still need separator!

Last playoffs, the offense had a chance to win, and failed again.  The offense continually fails in the 4th quarter of playoff games. 

Yes, we need D help.  Every Bills knows that. But adding two decent WRs is not mutually exclusive to helping fortify the D

[Pete]

KaVontae Turpin recorded the fastest time recorded 2024 NFL  .36 miles per hour (mph) during a 64-yard touchdown catch against the Houston Texans in Week 11. 
 

He is a restricted FA.  $4.94 is second round tender offer, if Dallas pays.  Otherwise they will have the right to match the offer.  Interesting to see what cowboys do with Turpin.

[Prospector]

I wonder if the Giants would be open to trading Hyatt

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, Pete said:

We add two more skilled WR I predict.  Coleman has been a major bust, especially since the Poyer hit.  I see it, Beane sees it, McD sees it.  IMO we draft Jack Bech, re-sign Hollin and add a speed guy.

Shakir

Hollins

Samuel

Bech

Chris Godwin or speed guy

Coleman 6th WR barely making roster

3:30 minutes left, 3 TO, only needing a FG, and failing.  My eyes work, and I see zero separation all season long. I see a massive fail in draft pick in Coleman.  Last year we needed a separator, and added Coleman- WTF?  We still need separator!

Last playoffs, the offense had a chance to win, and failed again.  The offense continually fails in the 4th quarter of playoff games. 

Yes, we need D help.  Every Bills knows that. But adding two decent WRs is not mutually exclusive to helping fortify the D

Would love Bech-  when do you think we’d draft him?

[Pete]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Would love Bech-  when do you think we’d draft him?

2nd round

17 hours ago, quincy said:

Mack has fully shown Buffalo what he can offer Buffalo this season, is well loved and brings a bit of an X factor to the team.

 

Amari hasn't but in spoken words has said he is happy to be here on a winning team.

 

If only one comes back, who is more valuable? Probably Mack for me as he offers multiple facets to the Bills.

 

Interesting dilemma as to whether they run back essentially the whole same offense next year given the 30/30 rushing/passing touchdowns - success versus potential stagnation.

 

 

Mack

[Brandon]

10 hours ago, ShakAttack said:

Problem is this. Most fans want Hollins back, right? Ok let’s say he is back, then we have 4 receivers returning

 

shakir

hollins

coleman

samuel 

 

not a whole lot of room for an upgrade. Maybe 1 guy? Funny thing is, If we do that, it may be at Coleman’s expense, so they continue to bet on Coleman despite his inability to separate and try to let him develop? Or do we look for an instant upgrade? 

 

There's a lot of downside risk in that group,  especially beyond 2025. Hollins played well,  but he'll be 32 next year.  Shakir will be a FA after 2025.  Samuel will be 29 next year and they haven't really found a way to integrate him into this offense.  Coleman is a big question mark. 

 

I think they need to add a quality prospect in this draft.  Even if this group plays well in 2025,  it could fall apart quickly afterward. And they still need a speed/separation guy. 

 

[OldTimer1960]

15 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

We need a speed guy/separator and to re-sign Coop and Hollins. Problem is …who ya sittin? Coleman? Samual? Definitely not Khalil. Maybe just use Samuel more on some deep stuff. He was hurt the majority of the season. 

Coleman can sit - he showed some flashes, but was non-existent after Poyer lit him up.  

1 hour ago, Prospector said:

I wonder if the Giants would be open to trading Hyatt

Ugh - speed alone doesn’t make a WR.  His 8 catches for 62 yards this year don’t warrant trading anything of value.  If they would take one of the Bills’ 6ths then maybe.

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Would love Bech-  when do you think we’d draft him?

Probably would have to take him by end of 2nd given Bills don’t pick again until the 4th and that feels too high for him.

[Prospector]

11 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Coleman can sit - he showed some flashes, but was non-existent after Poyer lit him up.  

Ugh - speed alone doesn’t make a WR.  His 8 catches for 62 yards this year don’t warrant trading anything of value.  If they would take one of the Bills’ 6ths then maybe.

Probably would have to take him by end of 2nd given Bills don’t pick again until the 4th and that feels too high for him.

I also think Hyatt is in a very bad situation in NY... He could be a very good WR, or he may actually be bad... but I don't think we will know the answer if he is stuck on the Giants.

[NewEra]

29 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Coleman can sit - he showed some flashes, but was non-existent after Poyer lit him up.  

Ugh - speed alone doesn’t make a WR.  His 8 catches for 62 yards this year don’t warrant trading anything of value.  If they would take one of the Bills’ 6ths then maybe.

Probably would have to take him by end of 2nd given Bills don’t pick again until the 4th and that feels too high for him.

Yeah- or trade back with one of our 2nds- but we could lose him.