John Gianelli Posted January 29 Posted January 29 It's Jack Kemp. The frustration of the four Super Bowl losses and our inability to get back to the Super Bowl under Josh Allen have convinced me that the real sign of greatness is motivating your team to win the biggest game. Kemp led the Bills to two league championships in 1964 and 1965. He wasn't as gifted an athlete as Allen, and didn't rack up the stats like Kelly. But he knew how to motivate his team to win when it counted most. I watched the '65 game when I was 8 years old. I wish every Bills fan could know what it feels like to win it all. 10 3 3 7 8 3 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Jack Kemp never had a completion percentage over 46% in Buffalo. In the 1964 AFL championship season, he had 44%, 13Tds and 26 INTs. 5 6 Quote
JohnNord Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 2:14 AM, John Gianelli said: It's Jack Kemp. The frustration of the four Super Bowl losses and our inability to get back to the Super Bowl under Josh Allen have convinced me that the real sign of greatness is motivating your team to win the biggest game. Kemp led the Bills to two league championships in 1964 and 1965. He wasn't as gifted an athlete as Allen, and didn't rack up the stats like Kelly. But he knew how to motivate his team to win when it counted most. I watched the '65 game when I was 8 years old. I wish every Bills fan could know what it feels like to win it all. Expand Now Jack Kemp, there’s a haircut you could set your watch to 11 Quote
The Cincinnati Kid Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) Josh Allen is the best QB the Bills have ever had and might be the best they ever do have. It’s not even a debate. Edited January 29 by The Cincinnati Kid 2 14 1 2 Quote
3rdand12 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I gotta feel , you had to be there to know Im old ,but not That old John lol God Bless ya ! 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 2:25 AM, The Cincinnati Kid said: Josh Allen is the best QB have ever had and might be the best ever do have. It’s not even a debate. Expand Yeah. The argument that the OP is making is like saying that Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino just because he happened to ride a defense and a running game to a SB. On 1/29/2025 at 2:16 AM, Sojourner said: How many points could Jack put on our defense? Expand Zero. All those guys chain smoked and didn't work out. This years Panthers would smoke the 1966 Packers. 1 2 2 2 Quote
HOUSE Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) On 1/29/2025 at 2:14 AM, John Gianelli said: It's Jack Kemp. The frustration of the four Super Bowl losses and our inability to get back to the Super Bowl under Josh Allen have convinced me that the real sign of greatness is motivating your team to win the biggest game. Kemp led the Bills to two league championships in 1964 and 1965. He wasn't as gifted an athlete as Allen, and didn't rack up the stats like Kelly. But he knew how to motivate his team to win when it counted most. I watched the '65 game when I was 8 years old. I wish every Bills fan could know what it feels like to win it all. Expand I completely understand. More gain, less pain Edited January 29 by HOUSE 2 Quote
zow2 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Jack Kemp was the man back in the day. QB’s are part of the puzzle, a big part. But defense still has a big hand in Championships. Which QB tandem would y’all rather have in your teams history? Steelers: Bradshaw / Big Ben Bills: Kelly / Allen I’d rather have our guys, not even close. But those Steelers QBs have all the hardware 3 Quote
Gugny Posted January 29 Posted January 29 The best thing Kemp ever did was to come out of the closet. Too bad he didn’t have the guts to do it while he was playing. 1 1 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted January 29 Posted January 29 7 NFL QBs had completion percentages over 50% in 1964. On 1/29/2025 at 2:33 AM, zow2 said: Jack Kemp was the man back in the day. QB’s are part of the puzzle, a big part. But defense still has a big hand in Championships. Which QB tandem would y’all rather have in your teams history? Steelers: Bradshaw / Big Ben Bills: Kelly / Allen I’d rather have our guys, not even close. But those Steelers QBs have all the hardware Expand With Bradshaw it was the best defense in NFL history and Franco Harris. With Rothlesburger, it was a great D and some great RBs. Teams win SBs. 2 1 Quote
John Gianelli Posted January 29 Author Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 2:20 AM, Low Positive said: Jack Kemp never had a completion percentage over 46% in Buffalo. In the 1964 AFL championship season, he had 44%, 13Tds and 26 INTs. Expand True. But how many other Bills quarterbacks won a championship, much less two? 1 1 Quote
John Gianelli Posted January 29 Author Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 2:16 AM, Sojourner said: How many points could Jack put on our defense? Expand He put up enough to win two rings. Quote
Low Positive Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 2:38 AM, John Gianelli said: He put up enough to win two rings. Expand He won the USFL twice. 1 Quote
John Gianelli Posted January 29 Author Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 2:20 AM, Low Positive said: Jack Kemp never had a completion percentage over 46% in Buffalo. In the 1964 AFL championship season, he had 44%, 13Tds and 26 INTs. Expand And a ring at the end of the season. Quote
oldmanfan Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I grew up watching the AFL teams. Caught a pass from Kemp at autograph day. He was a great leader and damn fine QB. 2 1 Quote
BillsPride12 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 My all-time greatest Bills quarterback is JP Losman 2 Quote
John Gianelli Posted January 29 Author Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 2:25 AM, The Cincinnati Kid said: Josh Allen is the best QB the Bills have ever had and might be the best they ever do have. It’s not even a debate. Expand I'll take that into consideration once he wins us a Super Bowl. And believe me, I hope he does, more than once. 1 Quote
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